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Post by AztecBill on Apr 24, 2013 15:55:51 GMT -8
One of the pieces of the Mike Adams trade will get a look after starting the year in "AAA".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2013 16:29:10 GMT -8
4.72 ERA in AAA so far.
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Post by AztecBill on Apr 25, 2013 8:22:54 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2013 9:02:15 GMT -8
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Post by AztecBill on Apr 25, 2013 11:45:56 GMT -8
13 innings is a very small sample. One bad inning could change the complete complexion of such a short sample. Robby has put in plenty of years with ERAs in the 2.xxs. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2013 13:04:46 GMT -8
13 innings is a very small sample. One bad inning could change the complete complexion of such a short sample. Robby has put in plenty of years with ERAs in the 2.xxs. Each person can draw their own conclusion on what a statistic means. |
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Post by AztecBill on Apr 26, 2013 12:11:11 GMT -8
13 innings is a very small sample. One bad inning could change the complete complexion of such a short sample. Robby has put in plenty of years with ERAs in the 2.xxs. Each person can draw their own conclusion on what a statistic means. OK. The last inning he pitched in "AAA" was a shut out inning. His ERA was 0.00. He won the last game he pitched that is a 100% win percentage. |
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 26, 2013 19:33:15 GMT -8
So is he going to start? Heard rumblings about long relief.
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Post by AztecBill on Apr 29, 2013 13:35:44 GMT -8
So is he going to start? Heard rumblings about long relief. Long relief. I went from a very early tweet on the call-up. His manager called him into his office and told him they found pills in his locker. After Robby proclaimed his innocence, told him he was called up. |
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Post by I Enjoy Aztecs Basketball on Apr 29, 2013 23:11:13 GMT -8
Judging ERA based on 13 innings is legit? David Price, Cole Hamels, and Matt Cain were all above 8 that many innings into this season. ERA after 13 innings... hilarious. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2013 19:38:22 GMT -8
Forgettable MLB debut for Erlin.
1 inning
2 ER
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2013 19:48:16 GMT -8
Judging ERA based on 13 innings is legit? David Price, Cole Hamels, and Matt Cain were all above 8 that many innings into this season. ERA after 13 innings... hilarious. Those pitchers have an entire career of success to draw from at the MLB level. They have a huge sample size. The only thing that is hilarious about this topic has been your attempt to compare Erlin to established MLB pitchers. |
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Post by I Enjoy Aztecs Basketball on Apr 30, 2013 20:31:39 GMT -8
Judging ERA based on 13 innings is legit? David Price, Cole Hamels, and Matt Cain were all above 8 that many innings into this season. ERA after 13 innings... hilarious. Those pitchers have an entire career of success to draw from at the MLB level. They have a huge sample size. The only thing that is hilarious about this topic has been your attempt to compare Erlin to established MLB pitchers. And Erlin has a large sample size of minor league stats, so there's no reason to draw from 13 innings. Also, the comparison was only to show how ludicrous using 13 innings of data is no matter WHO the pitcher is. I never indicated that Erlin should be compared to those pitchers in terms of ability. Although you already knew that and tried to attack my credibility instead of my argument because you are wrong and that kind of logical fallacy makes you feel right. |
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Post by AztecBill on Apr 30, 2013 20:40:01 GMT -8
Forgettable MLB debut for Erlin. 1 inning 2 ER Hopefully he doesn't forget it. I have heard pitchers talk about being roughed up in their first call up and how it helped them improve. Robby is 22 years old he has a lot of improvement to go before he hits his prime. Prime for pitchers is older than any position in any major sport because it is so much about what you know. |
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Post by AztecBill on Apr 30, 2013 20:42:32 GMT -8
Those pitchers have an entire career of success to draw from at the MLB level. They have a huge sample size. The only thing that is hilarious about this topic has been your attempt to compare Erlin to established MLB pitchers. And Erlin has a large sample size of minor league stats, so there's no reason to draw from 13 innings. Also, the comparison was only to show how ludicrous using 13 innings of data is no matter WHO the pitcher is. I never indicated that Erlin should be compared to those pitchers in terms of ability. Although you already knew that and tried to attack my credibility instead of my argument because you are wrong and that kind of logical fallacy makes you feel right. But it is negative for the Padres so they will continue. That is their only criteria. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2013 20:46:50 GMT -8
Those pitchers have an entire career of success to draw from at the MLB level. They have a huge sample size. The only thing that is hilarious about this topic has been your attempt to compare Erlin to established MLB pitchers. And Erlin has a large sample size of minor league stats, so there's no reason to draw from 13 innings. Also, the comparison was only to show how ludicrous using 13 innings of data is no matter WHO the pitcher is. I never indicated that Erlin should be compared to those pitchers in terms of ability. Although you already knew that and tried to attack my credibility instead of my argument because you are wrong and that kind of logical fallacy makes you feel right. You're using a lot of strong words for such a minor bicker. In Erlin's first season in AAA ball, he was responding pretty poorly. Certainly not numbers that would make someone think he was worthy of a promotion. You want me to think the kid will be a good call up and I'm going to go off of the information provided. He's so far struggled against more veteran professional baseball players. I'm not going to use a kid's AA success to give me confidence about his MLB numbers. By the way. As of his MLB debut, I am certainly right. His sample size has most certainly correlated with poor MLB performance. |
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Post by AztecBill on Apr 30, 2013 20:53:00 GMT -8
And Erlin has a large sample size of minor league stats, so there's no reason to draw from 13 innings. Also, the comparison was only to show how ludicrous using 13 innings of data is no matter WHO the pitcher is. I never indicated that Erlin should be compared to those pitchers in terms of ability. Although you already knew that and tried to attack my credibility instead of my argument because you are wrong and that kind of logical fallacy makes you feel right. You're using a lot of strong words for such a minor bicker. In Erlin's first season in AAA ball, he was responding pretty poorly. Certainly not numbers that would make someone think he was worthy of a promotion. You want me to think the kid will be a good call up and I'm going to go off of the information provided. He's so far struggled against more veteran professional baseball players. I'm not going to use a kid's AA success to give me confidence about his MLB numbers. Although his AAA By the way. As of his MLB debut, I am certainly right. His sample size has most certainly correlated with poor MLB performance. You are falling for a common fallacey in using stats. You should read those "lot of strong words" and take them to heart if you desire to learn something about using stats. His MLB debut wouldn't prove either side of this discussion - no matter the outcome. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2013 20:54:55 GMT -8
You're using a lot of strong words for such a minor bicker. In Erlin's first season in AAA ball, he was responding pretty poorly. Certainly not numbers that would make someone think he was worthy of a promotion. You want me to think the kid will be a good call up and I'm going to go off of the information provided. He's so far struggled against more veteran professional baseball players. I'm not going to use a kid's AA success to give me confidence about his MLB numbers. Although his AAA By the way. As of his MLB debut, I am certainly right. His sample size has most certainly correlated with poor MLB performance. You are falling for a common fallacey in using stats. You should read those "lot of strong words" and take them to heart if you desire to learn something about using stats. So far I'm not falling for anything. So far my analysis is 100% correct. So far. |
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Post by AztecBill on Apr 30, 2013 20:57:31 GMT -8
You are falling for a common fallacey in using stats. You should read those "lot of strong words" and take them to heart if you desire to learn something about using stats. So far I'm not falling for anything. So far my analysis is 100% correct. So far. Your "analysis" was not that he would give up 2 runs in his MLB debut. So how can you be right? I just re-read the thread - you made no analysis. |
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Post by I Enjoy Aztecs Basketball on May 1, 2013 16:54:36 GMT -8
I don't think I used strong words, I think I just stated the truth. You veered from the argument with a complete non sequitur.
I'm not even high on Erlin, I personally think Weiland has a much higher ceiling. Erlin's stuff screams "pitchability." But your "analysis" (reading an ERA statistic and saying "bad!") was obviously extraordinarily flawed. In 13 innings you can give up a 2-run shot and go from 3.30 to 4.70. Also, 13 innings of data in AAA is not even close to as valuable as 145 innings in AA. Especially when you consider that most teams allow their top prospects to spend more time in AA than AAA as it is often more representative of major league baseball (more players with high ceilings, PCL ballparks eschew numbers, less career AAAA-type players).
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