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Post by 78aztec82 on Jan 11, 2013 9:36:58 GMT -8
I would rather be in the east coast conference simply for the exposure nationally. We might only get a few more bucks, but when conferences start realigning again, and they will, we will be a more recognizable commodity to the other super conferences. The markets are just too small in the MWC(formerly the WAC). However, if the BCS would give the MWC an automatic bid today, then we stay. Personally,,I would much rather fly into Texas than Wyoming or Colorado. For a team that won a share of a title averaging 28k, boosted by one 52k crowd game SOLELY for the air show, there isnt much commodity. No offense, its a fact Bitter at our situation I see. Why are you here? Doesn't matter anyway. The real "fact" is that we have a genuine opportunity to upgrade our standing and department income at a critical juncture. You would too if you had the chance. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards
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Post by RB Aztec on Jan 11, 2013 9:39:14 GMT -8
Bottom line, they truly dont want SDSU with out Boise. There is no legitimate avail west coast schools and they now wanna keep it East... SDSU doesnt belong in an East Coast Conf anyways I can't imagine they would not want to have access to the Southern California TV market. This whole BE vs. MWC thing is killing me. Either way we lose. We either lose for football or we lose for basketball unless the BE really does pull off a Western Division. I am just dreaming of a future invite from the Big 12 so a can say "screw the BE and the MWC".
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Post by aztecfankrishnan on Jan 11, 2013 9:42:09 GMT -8
It appears the idea of creating a true western division within the Big East is dead. I would still be on board with the Big East if we had a least one truly western team entering into the conference with us. That does not appear to be the case and it also does not appear that the eastern schools are all that interested in expanding west of Texas. I think Aresco tried to push it, but was rejected by the most eastern schools. As a result, sadly, it looks like we make do in the MWC.
On the bright-side, with Utah State joining the conference next year, the MWC has a legitimate argument as a Top 3 basketball conference. That's pretty f-ing awesome!
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Jan 11, 2013 9:44:10 GMT -8
It appears the idea of creating a true western division within the Big East is dead. I would still be on board with the Big East if we had a least one truly western team entering into the conference with us. That does not appear to be the case and it also does not appear that the eastern schools are all that interested in expanding west of Texas. I think Aresco tried to push it, but was rejected by the most eastern schools. As a result, sadly, it looks like we make do in the MWC. On the bright-side, with Utah State joining the conference next year, the MWC has a legitimate argument as a Top 3 basketball conference. That's pretty f-ing awesome! TCU made a decison to be different. They broke from CUSA and the Texas Bus league, and it paid off. This is Football, not Basketball, who cares about travel partners?
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Post by Yoda on Jan 11, 2013 9:45:05 GMT -8
They should get ready to lose UH, SMU, Cincy & UConn as well.
Yoda out...
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Post by aztecsman16 on Jan 11, 2013 9:46:32 GMT -8
For a team that won a share of a title averaging 28k, boosted by one 52k crowd game SOLELY for the air show, there isnt much commodity. No offense, its a fact Why are you on our board then? Why does MWC want us back then? Why doesnt MWC tell us to kick rocks? +1
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Post by tuff on Jan 11, 2013 9:48:32 GMT -8
I would rather be in the east coast conference simply for the exposure nationally. We might only get a few more bucks, but when conferences start realigning again, and they will, we will be a more recognizable commodity to the other super conferences. The markets are just too small in the MWC(formerly the WAC). However, if the BCS would give the MWC an automatic bid today, then we stay. Personally,,I would much rather fly into Texas than Wyoming or Colorado. For a team that won a share of a title averaging 28k, boosted by one 52k crowd game SOLELY for the air show, there isnt much commodity. No offense, its a fact It's tv market. We all know San Diego is a s#!++y fan base. It's about exposure. Besides, I think people would really show up for a Louisville, Cincinnatti or Houston over Wyoming, San Jose or New Mexico.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Jan 11, 2013 9:48:45 GMT -8
They should get ready to lose UH, SMU, Cincy & UConn as well. Yoda out... . UH and SMU going where? Certainly not the MWC... Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards
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Post by tuff on Jan 11, 2013 9:50:05 GMT -8
For a team that won a share of a title averaging 28k, boosted by one 52k crowd game SOLELY for the air show, there isnt much commodity. No offense, its a fact Bitter at our situation I see. Why are you here? Doesn't matter anyway. The real "fact" is that we have a genuine opportunity to upgrade our standing and department income at a critical juncture. You would too if you had the chance. Absolutely agree. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards
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Post by tuff on Jan 11, 2013 9:52:05 GMT -8
Who has better airports is irrelevant lol. Sterk and the prez will make the best available decision. The daily speculation is beyond ridiculous now. Go to Wyoming game and you will understand my point. It's about ease of travel, for both team and fans.
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Post by Yoda on Jan 11, 2013 9:59:14 GMT -8
They should get ready to lose UH, SMU, Cincy & UConn as well. Yoda out... . UH and SMU going where? Certainly not the MWC... I predict that all four are going to the MWC -- Cincy and UConn for football only. This allows them to put their other sports with the Catholic 7. But more than that, it allows the C-7 (now C-9) the votes to: 1. Eliminate exit fees (including for SDSU, UH & SMU) 2. Take the BE name without compensation, and 3. Dissolve the BE -- and thereby take with them $10 mil?, $15 mil?, $20 mil? -- I don't know how many million dollars -- in MBB credits. (If the conference dissolves, the money goes directly to the schools.) Yoda out... .
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Post by dirtball on Jan 11, 2013 10:00:52 GMT -8
Why are you on our board than? Why does MWC want us back than? Why doesnt MWC tell us to kick rocks? +1
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Post by matteosandiego on Jan 11, 2013 10:01:34 GMT -8
The premise of the article would have a lot more validity if the writer heard it from Sterk or Hirschman rather than Hair Thompson. Nice, a whole article of what hair thinks. Way to go CBS. Well, CBS does have the Mountain West TV rights correct? Of course they would put a story from the MWC and the Hair's point of view.
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Post by k5james on Jan 11, 2013 10:02:05 GMT -8
UH and SMU going where? Certainly not the MWC... I predict that all four are going to the MWC -- Cincy and UConn for football only. This allows them to put their other sports with the Catholic 7. But more than that, it allows the C-7 the votes to: 1. Eliminate exit fees (including for SDSU, UH & SMU) 2. Take the BE name without compensation, and 3. Dissolve the BE -- and thereby take will then $10 mil?, $15 mil?, $20 mil? -- I don't know how many million dollars -- in MBB credits. (If the conference dissolves, the money goes directly to the schools.) Yoda out... . And when you are wrong will you leave the board forever?
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Post by 78aztec82 on Jan 11, 2013 10:04:52 GMT -8
UH and SMU going where? Certainly not the MWC... I predict that all four are going to the MWC -- Cincy and UConn for football only. This allows them to put their other sports with the Catholic 7. But more than that, it allows the C-7 the votes to: 1. Eliminate exit fees (including for SDSU, UH & SMU) 2. Take the BE name without compensation, and 3. Dissolve the BE -- and thereby take will then $10 mil?, $15 mil?, $20 mil? -- I don't know how many million dollars -- in MBB credits. (If the conference dissolves, the money goes directly to the schools.) Yoda out... . Andre would probably say "yer on crack" Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards
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Post by Yoda on Jan 11, 2013 10:07:08 GMT -8
UHCougar posts on the nBE board as follows:
I was told Monday by my person connected to the MWC that there were "substantive" discussions with UConn and Cincinnati about them putting their basketball in the Catholic 7 and playing football with UH and SMU in the MWC . . . the Sporting News story was only half right . . . but this never got going beyond talks with Thompson . . .
My personal opinion . . . I would not be surprised to see this happen still . . . there is not a lot of enthusiasm in the room today from what I'm hearing . . .
Yoda out...
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Post by RB Aztec on Jan 11, 2013 10:08:05 GMT -8
It appears the idea of creating a true western division within the Big East is dead. I would still be on board with the Big East if we had a least one truly western team entering into the conference with us. That does not appear to be the case and it also does not appear that the eastern schools are all that interested in expanding west of Texas. I think Aresco tried to push it, but was rejected by the most eastern schools. As a result, sadly, it looks like we make do in the MWC. On the bright-side, with Utah State joining the conference next year, the MWC has a legitimate argument as a Top 3 basketball conference. That's pretty f-ing awesome! We already are a top 3 conference. I am drooling at the prospect of how powerful the MWC will continue to be in the future in basketball if we stay. Then I think about how screwed we may be in football if we stay in the MWC, especially with CA budget cuts. I am internally conflicted.
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Post by RB Aztec on Jan 11, 2013 10:10:11 GMT -8
UHCougar posts on the nBE board as follows: I was told Monday by my person connected to the MWC that there were "substantive" discussions with UConn and Cincinnati about them putting their basketball in the Catholic 7 and playing football with UH and SMU in the MWC . . . the Sporting News story was only half right . . . but this never got going beyond talks with Thompson . . . My personal opinion . . . I would not be surprised to see this happen still . . . there is not a lot of enthusiasm in the room today from what I'm hearing . . . Yoda out... . That would be interesting. Somehow, it would be awesome to get the best of the BE and the best of the MWC in the same conference.
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Post by k5james on Jan 11, 2013 10:11:36 GMT -8
It appears the idea of creating a true western division within the Big East is dead. I would still be on board with the Big East if we had a least one truly western team entering into the conference with us. That does not appear to be the case and it also does not appear that the eastern schools are all that interested in expanding west of Texas. I think Aresco tried to push it, but was rejected by the most eastern schools. As a result, sadly, it looks like we make do in the MWC. On the bright-side, with Utah State joining the conference next year, the MWC has a legitimate argument as a Top 3 basketball conference. That's pretty f-ing awesome! We already are a top 3 conference. I am drooling at the prospect of how powerful the MWC will continue to be in the future in basketball if we stay. Then I think about how screwed we may be in football if we stay in the MWC, especially with CA budget cuts. I am internally conflicted. Lol, powerful the MWC will continue to be in basketball? We had what, one team make it out of the first round last year?
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Post by aztecfankrishnan on Jan 11, 2013 10:17:37 GMT -8
It appears the idea of creating a true western division within the Big East is dead. I would still be on board with the Big East if we had a least one truly western team entering into the conference with us. That does not appear to be the case and it also does not appear that the eastern schools are all that interested in expanding west of Texas. I think Aresco tried to push it, but was rejected by the most eastern schools. As a result, sadly, it looks like we make do in the MWC. On the bright-side, with Utah State joining the conference next year, the MWC has a legitimate argument as a Top 3 basketball conference. That's pretty f-ing awesome! TCU made a decison to be different. They broke from CUSA and the Texas Bus league, and it paid off. This is Football, not Basketball, who cares about travel partners? It's not necessarily travel partners that is important, but rather cutting down on travel overall. Also, another western team helps prevent Houston from leaving the nBE by weakening the MWC. Eventually we will need a place to land our basketball program too. The Big West cannot be considered a long-term solution. The more western football schools in the nBE, the more likely a western all-sports division will be created. If SDSU is stuck as an outlier in the conference our leverage within the conference is further diminished.
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