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Post by laaztec on Dec 21, 2012 17:33:00 GMT -8
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Post by monty619 on Dec 21, 2012 17:43:02 GMT -8
The dominoes should start to fall quickly now. Hopefully we are still aligned with Boise either way.
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Post by haleiwaaztec on Dec 21, 2012 17:43:30 GMT -8
Yup, this could be the game changer that gets Boise State to stay (go back?) to the MWC and pretty much force SDSU's hand
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Post by retiredaztec on Dec 21, 2012 17:44:37 GMT -8
This past year, I've enjoyed MW, including Aztec, sports on CBSsports, NBCsports and ROOT. It will be interesting to see what role these other networks ultimately play.
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Post by saucematix on Dec 21, 2012 17:46:18 GMT -8
id love to go back. cringing at big west basketball. big east now a joke, specially without Boise. DOwnside to all this is, if we go back at maintain status quo, how many big name BBall recruits did we lose?
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Post by Trujillos & Beer on Dec 21, 2012 17:52:15 GMT -8
Can't imagine this leads to much of an increase in the tv revenue. There are only a handful of reasonably attractive games every year and CBS will pick those up. It doesn't sound like CBS will be kicking in any extra dough, rather the MWC can earn more by selling it's other games. How much is ESPN really going to pay for a Wyoming-Colorado State football game or SDSU-San Jose State basketball game?
Without an increase in tier 1 revenue it's still a bad tv deal.
..Sent from my GS3..
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Post by RockNFish on Dec 21, 2012 17:53:23 GMT -8
Some how in all of this we and the mw will lose
Bsu will end up in the big12 or something... But hey at least the world didnt end - wellnot completely anyway
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Post by aztecfankrishnan on Dec 21, 2012 17:54:29 GMT -8
It's really hard to tell what is truly going on here. There is a heavy does of anti-Big East news coming from ESPN and CBS. Both networks have financial incentive to devalue the league. The Big East needs NBC to step in and solidified a deal if it really wants in the college football game. A commitment with a good TV deal from NBC would secure Boise's spot in the Big East and help with Western expansion. Right now ESPN and CBS are out maneuvering Aresco and NBC.
Once I was convinced by SGF that the move to he Big East was right, I've been a huge proponent of the move. However, without Boise I will probably re-evaluate my support. Particularly if the TV deal is relatively the same.
Al you MWC haters should thank us though, without our move and our help getting Boise into the Big West, you would not have a new TV deal.
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Post by laaztec on Dec 21, 2012 17:54:46 GMT -8
Without an increase in tier 1 revenue it's still a bad tv deal. ..Sent from my GS3.. There were no numbers in the article so who knows what this really means.
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Post by Aztec Empire on Dec 21, 2012 17:56:26 GMT -8
Can't imagine this leads to much of an increase in the tv revenue. There are only a handful of reasonably attractive games every year and CBS will pick those up. It doesn't sound like CBS will be kicking in any extra dough, rather the MWC can earn more by selling it's other games. How much is ESPN really going to pay for a Wyoming-Colorado State football game or SDSU-San Jose State basketball game? Without an increase in tier 1 revenue it's still a bad tv deal. ..Sent from my GS3.. Good insight, let's not get too excited about a restructuring until we find out just how beneficial it is. If there is clearly more money in it, obviously we would want to stay.
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Post by Trujillos & Beer on Dec 21, 2012 17:59:18 GMT -8
Without an increase in tier 1 revenue it's still a bad tv deal. ..Sent from my GS3.. There were no numbers in the article so who knows what this really means. Yup, just going off the article. If CBS is actually going to pay more that changes things but nothing in the story eluded to that. ..Sent from my GS3..
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Post by AZK619 on Dec 21, 2012 18:02:16 GMT -8
Now the next move is Boise's. The Broncos play in the Las Vegas Bowl on Saturday against Washington. There were indications Friday that Boise State president Bob Kustra may make a statement before then on Boise's future.
Interesting part of the article.
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Dec 21, 2012 18:03:18 GMT -8
Without an increase in tier 1 revenue it's still a bad tv deal. ..Sent from my GS3.. There were no numbers in the article so who knows what this really means. Exactly, there are no numbers. Kind of just don't you think?
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Post by haleiwaaztec on Dec 21, 2012 18:18:15 GMT -8
The reason why the restructure is significant is that games can be sold to other networks. Right there are A LOT of cable sports channels that need content and nothing is bigger than College Football (outside of 3 major pro sports). That was part of the reason the Big East was suppose to get a great deal (before the latest defections) - all the other major conferences were locked up and NBC, CBS, Fox, Google (?) needed a big conference.
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Dec 21, 2012 18:21:06 GMT -8
The reason why the restructure is significant is that games can be sold to other networks. Right there are A LOT of cable sports channels that need content and nothing is bigger than College Football (outside of 3 major pro sports). That was part of the reason the Big East was suppose to get a great deal (before the latest defections) - all the other major conferences were locked up and NBC, CBS, Fox, Google (?) needed a big conference. That was already in the old agreement as well. That is h nbsn and espn got games lat year. Based on what I read, the only news is that the option is not mentioned and If BSU returns it old trigger a renegotiation. Other than that is a puff pice.
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Post by haleiwaaztec on Dec 21, 2012 18:25:58 GMT -8
The reason why the restructure is significant is that games can be sold to other networks. Right there are A LOT of cable sports channels that need content and nothing is bigger than College Football (outside of 3 major pro sports). That was part of the reason the Big East was suppose to get a great deal (before the latest defections) - all the other major conferences were locked up and NBC, CBS, Fox, Google (?) needed a big conference. That was already in the old agreement as well. That is h nbsn and espn got games lat year. Based on what I read, the only news is that the option is not mentioned and If BSU returns it old trigger a renegotiation. Other than that is a puff pice. I think it is more significant since the MWC has more control over what can be sold. This past season the network basically gave 'left-overs' to the MWC to sell. The new contract would allow CBS to protect a smaller portion (at least that what I understand it to be). Or another way to look at it, this wouldn't be a big deal if the restructure wasn't significant.
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Dec 21, 2012 18:43:49 GMT -8
That was already in the old agreement as well. That is h nbsn and espn got games lat year. Based on what I read, the only news is that the option is not mentioned and If BSU returns it old trigger a renegotiation. Other than that is a puff pice. I think it is more significant since the MWC has more control over what can be sold. This past season the network basically gave 'left-overs' to the MWC to sell. The new contract would allow CBS to protect a smaller portion (at least that what I understand it to be). Or another way to look at it, this wouldn't be a big deal if the restructure wasn't significant. The new deal does not lengthen the agreement -- which expires with the 2015-16 academic year -- but allows the MWC more leeway in earning power. CBS will continue as the primary rightsholder and have priority picks but the Mountain West will have the right to sell packages of games to two additional networks. The number of priority picks is not known. After that, the new rightsholder and CBS will alternate picks when selecting games. The MWC restructuring was a result of CBS shutting down the The Mtn. Network. The conference-centric network shut down on May 31. The restructuring apparently is a “make good” to the conference after the network folded, according to a source. So as I read this, CBS continues to pay 8 mil but the conference can now sell the other inventory. So CBS 1st tier and then splits the 2nd and tier 3 rights. I don't see how this gets them back to more than $12M per year in media rights. Figure he tv schedule goes just like this year with the majority of the tier1 games being BSU, sdsu, Fresno, Nevada, and Hawaii. You are left with the front range games, is that going to break the bank? I don't think so, this all adds up to blah. Jmo.
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Post by MonsterSiZiN on Dec 21, 2012 19:17:18 GMT -8
I try to stay away from all the conference alignment, Hopefully this means things are coming to a close sooner than later, but I'm not counting on it.
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Post by socialsdsu on Dec 21, 2012 19:30:58 GMT -8
This is terrible news for SDSU's football department and athletic department as a whole.
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Post by quickdraw on Dec 21, 2012 19:31:04 GMT -8
I think it is more significant since the MWC has more control over what can be sold. This past season the network basically gave 'left-overs' to the MWC to sell. The new contract would allow CBS to protect a smaller portion (at least that what I understand it to be). Or another way to look at it, this wouldn't be a big deal if the restructure wasn't significant. The new deal does not lengthen the agreement -- which expires with the 2015-16 academic year -- but allows the MWC more leeway in earning power. CBS will continue as the primary rightsholder and have priority picks but the Mountain West will have the right to sell packages of games to two additional networks. The number of priority picks is not known. After that, the new rightsholder and CBS will alternate picks when selecting games. The MWC restructuring was a result of CBS shutting down the The Mtn. Network. The conference-centric network shut down on May 31. The restructuring apparently is a “make good” to the conference after the network folded, according to a source. So as I read this, CBS continues to pay 8 mil but the conference can now sell the other inventory.So CBS 1st tier and then splits the 2nd and tier 3 rights. I don't see how this gets them back to more than $12M per year in media rights. Figure he tv schedule goes just like this year with the majority of the tier1 games being BSU, sdsu, Fresno, Nevada, and Hawaii. You are left with the front range games, is that going to break the bank? I don't think so, this all adds up to blah. Jmo. "The 10-team MWC has three years left on a deal with CBS that pays it $12 million per season."
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