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Post by Fred Noonan on Dec 21, 2012 11:26:35 GMT -8
First, let me say I agree with Rocky, the BYU punter was the game's MVP. No question. You get pinned that deep in your own territory that often and sooner or later it will bite you big, big time. It did. Now, without going into that game, strategy, etc., I'm looking for some enlightenment of a technical/physical nature. McMorrow, by comparison, did not look so good. Not saying he isn't or will not be as a senior, just noting by comparison. My question is the reason for his running right and kicking style as contrasted to a straight back punting style. Why does a kicker run? Is it his physical limitations? Or, is it by design? If so, the reason? His blocking is inadequate? An attempt to place the ball? Yes, I know, my ignorance is showing but then again judging from what I was hearing in my section so was that of all the old farts in attendance. Just a curious question, not looking for a strategy debate or a thread that harps on McMorrow. Im wondering what the deal is? Thanks, Fred Noonan
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Post by k5james on Dec 21, 2012 11:31:13 GMT -8
The rugby style kick, running and kicking, is to help with directional kicking.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2012 11:32:27 GMT -8
It was the whole punting game, including coverage. It seemed like there were always about 3-4 BYU guys right around the ball - almost there in time to catch it.
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Post by standiego on Dec 21, 2012 11:53:37 GMT -8
I think their punter did a good job , although he was punting from about mid field. One time we took over after an interception.Still think the guy who blocked our punt, stripped the ball & recovered it for a TD on another play(beating Nasty), made an interception that he returned for a TD and made other plays, was the key guy on D. Was he also the guy who beat our FB a few times. He was the best player on D and the leading scorer
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Post by longtimebooster on Dec 21, 2012 11:54:26 GMT -8
My question is the reason for his running right and kicking style as contrasted to a straight back punting style. Why does a kicker run? Is it his physical limitations? Or, is it by design? If so, the reason? His blocking is inadequate? An attempt to place the ball? I've been wondering that as well. It seems that this rugby-style kicking is becoming vogue throughout the college ranks. I've also seen a couple of kickers in the pros utilize it, as well. It has sprung up over the past two years. I never once saw it before then. Having said that, I don't really understand the advantage, either, It seems like the kicker is requiring an extra second or two kick -- which seems to provide an advantage to the kick-blocking specialists, who only need a split-second to do damage. I was also thinking that maybe the philosophy behind the maneuver is to provide an extra second or two for the return defenders to get down the field and contain the runback. From where I sit, this move just seems to be too much risk and not enough reward.
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Post by aztecprof on Dec 21, 2012 14:46:06 GMT -8
Rocky is partly responsible for the success of the BYU punter. On the first two punts downed inside the 5 we had no punt returner in. Even if the returner doesn't attempt to catch the ball he can block the opposition and impede them from downing it so easily. If I recall correctly at least 2 of those punts bounced somewhere around the 10 so a fair catch wold have been possible.
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Post by jhonka34 on Dec 21, 2012 15:11:48 GMT -8
Rocky is partly responsible for the success of the BYU punter. On the first two punts downed inside the 5 we had no punt returner in. Even if the returner doesn't attempt to catch the ball he can block the opposition and impede them from downing it so easily. If I recall correctly at least 2 of those punts bounced somewhere around the 10 so a fair catch wold have been possible. Not really. The returner can only stop one guy and there would be at least two down there in time. He also cannot block inside the 10 yard line because he has no knowledge of how the ball would bounce, you don't want to be engaged blocking a guy and have the ball bounce into your back.
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Post by jhonka34 on Dec 21, 2012 15:13:35 GMT -8
Also, the sideways running punt is also sometimes used when the defense is getting penetration, it is safer for the kicker and he can be a little more selective about when to kick, making it more likely the kick gets off.
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Post by haleiwaaztec on Dec 21, 2012 15:22:12 GMT -8
I actually think it was a huge mistake the second time he pinned us down inside the 2. Why not have Vizzi back there to fair catch at the 11? Instead, they didn't have a returner nor did they attempt to block the punt. Basically, SDSU just stood there why BYU punted.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Dec 21, 2012 16:44:06 GMT -8
I actually think it was a huge mistake the second time he pinned us down inside the 2. Why not have Vizzi back there to fair catch at the 11? Instead, they didn't have a returner nor did they attempt to block the punt. Basically, SDSU just stood there why BYU punted. Maybe, but getting backed up to our goal line was not the cause of the loss. AzWm
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Post by road2march on Dec 21, 2012 17:51:54 GMT -8
Maybe, but getting backed up to our goal line was not the cause of the loss. AzWm What? It certainly contributed to it.
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Post by haleiwaaztec on Dec 21, 2012 18:21:09 GMT -8
Maybe, but getting backed up to our goal line was not the cause of the loss. AzWm What? It certainly contributed to it. Actually, I really disagree. I think it was a major factor.
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Post by killiansc on Dec 21, 2012 19:40:16 GMT -8
Cause of his low punt style . Only time he didn't ru n it getot block
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