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Post by fowl on Dec 18, 2012 12:45:43 GMT -8
Like I said if the money is there SDSU will move. Nobody has any idea what the money will be so we just have to wait and see. I think we do have a good idea, and it seems that the $60-80 million figure thrown out there by CBS Sports is pretty accurate. Otherwise, as the above story clearly indicated, the C-7 schools would not have opted to break away. They would have stuck it out if the contract were worth what we were all told it would be. Good points. Although I think the C7 realizes that their value would be the same in the BE or out of it - they will get paid what they are percieved to be worth in either configuration. Here's my possible conspiracy theory as to why they may have broke away. We know that the addition of Tulane was the straw that broke the camel's back as has been explicitly acknowledged by the C7. While Tulane is not a religously-based school, it does have a large student population of one religion. Over 30% of its students are Jewish and that fact is well known throughout the post-secondary education universe. I wonder if those pricks did not want to be associated with a defacto Jewish university? |
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Post by azteclou on Dec 18, 2012 13:39:43 GMT -8
How committed to the Big West are we for hoops? Is there a buyout?
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Post by NTU on Dec 18, 2012 17:44:23 GMT -8
A lot of things make no sense. 1. Are the C7 presidents making moves based on CBS reports from Dodd? Wow, they are rubes. 2. I am pretty sure ESPN put a number on the table at the end of the negotiating period. If the numbers were not acceptable to the C7 why continue on for months and add ECU and Tulane? I think this article is over dramatized with facts stretched and laced with guesses. I refuse to believe that the C7 made these huge decisions to leave based on fish wrap. I refuse to believe that they were rubber stamping schools and then woke up to see Tulane in bed. JMO. They were not consulted on the ECU (football only) and Tulane adds. Aresco never consulted them on Tulane. They are not at all pleased with adding Tulane since Tulane has a horrible basketball program (story noted that about the only positive for Tulane bball is that they play in New Orleans Arena, the same place the Hornets/Pelicans play). So they didn't "continue on with the ECU and Tulane adds." According to the story, Aresco pretty much unilaterally made those decisions. |
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Post by NTU on Dec 18, 2012 17:48:27 GMT -8
While Tulane is not a religously-based school, it does have a large student population of one religion. Over 30% of its students are Jewish and that fact is well known throughout the post-secondary education universe. I wonder if those pricks did not want to be associated with a defacto Jewish university? I seriously doubt that. In today's day and age, the Catholics and the Jews typically get along fairly well. They respect one another for the most part. Wasn't always that way, of course......but I digress. Bottom line: Tulane adds nothing in terms of competitiveness in either football or basketball, and the C-7 made a point to note the drag on the conference RPI Tulane would be, jeopardizing additional potential NCAA bids for the conference. They are games the C-7 schools have no desire to play. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Dec 18, 2012 17:51:48 GMT -8
A lot of things make no sense. 1. Are the C7 presidents making moves based on CBS reports from Dodd? Wow, they are rubes. 2. I am pretty sure ESPN put a number on the table at the end of the negotiating period. If the numbers were not acceptable to the C7 why continue on for months and add ECU and Tulane? I think this article is over dramatized with facts stretched and laced with guesses. I refuse to believe that the C7 made these huge decisions to leave based on fish wrap. I refuse to believe that they were rubber stamping schools and then woke up to see Tulane in bed. JMO. They were not consulted on the ECU (football only) and Tulane adds. Aresco never consulted them on Tulane. They are not at all pleased with adding Tulane since Tulane has a horrible basketball program (story noted that about the only positive for Tulane bball is that they play in New Orleans Arena, the same place the Hornets/Pelicans play). So they didn't "continue on with the ECU and Tulane adds." According to the story, Aresco pretty much unilaterally made those decisions. Ya, that make sense. Aresco like a 3rd world dictator unilaterally invited ECU and Tulane. Tell me you don't believe that fairy tale. Seriously, I understand you don't like the move to the BW to the point of hoping the BE fails, but don't suspend common sense. They took a vote and did not like the backlash of the decision. |
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Post by NTU on Dec 18, 2012 18:01:03 GMT -8
Ya, that make sense. Aresco like a 3rd world dictator unilaterally invited ECU and Tulane. Tell me you don't believe that fairy tale. Seriously, I understand you don't like the move to the BW to the point of hoping the BE fails, but don't suspend common sense. They took a vote and did not like the backlash of the decision. Look, it almost makes sense that he wouldn't consult them on ECU since it's football only and wouldn't really affect them. But adding Tulane has a direct affect on conference RPI, like at least one of the C-7 AD's noted. Why would they say Aresco didn't consult them if it weren't true? And why would the rest of the C-7 not dispute that he didn't discuss it? The whole Tulane thing came along awfully quickly, and was a knee jerk reaction to losing Louisville. Tulane was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back that triggered the split. I don't know what fantasy world you're living in, but I haven't seen or heard anything to dispute what has been reported here or in the Dodd/CBS story. Bury your head in the sand if you like, but I'm just going by what I've read from multiple sources, and they're all saying the same things. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Dec 18, 2012 18:05:32 GMT -8
Ya, that make sense. Aresco like a 3rd world dictator unilaterally invited ECU and Tulane. Tell me you don't believe that fairy tale. Seriously, I understand you don't like the move to the BW to the point of hoping the BE fails, but don't suspend common sense. They took a vote and did not like the backlash of the decision. Look, it almost makes sense that he wouldn't consult them on ECU since it's football only and wouldn't really affect them. But adding Tulane has a direct affect on conference RPI, like at least one of the C-7 AD's noted. Why would they say Aresco didn't consult them if it weren't true? And why would the rest of the C-7 not dispute that he didn't discuss it? The whole Tulane thing came along awfully quickly, and was a knee jerk reaction to losing Louisville. Tulane was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back that triggered the split. I don't know what fantasy world you're living in, but I haven't seen or heard anything to dispute what has been reported here or in the Dodd/CBS story. Bury your head in the sand if you like, but I'm just going by what I've read from multiple sources, and they're all saying the same things. Facts have a way of being inconvenient. "The BIG EAST Board of Directors, by a unanimous vote of its Presidents, extended the invitation to Tulane, which will begin competing in the BIG EAST in the 2014-15 academic year. " Looks like Aresco is not Chavez, unless he is gone made and is using dioramas and action figures for fictitious directors and board meetings. Even then, pretty sure legal council would not allow this release to go out with lies. But hey, I tend to side with common sense. |
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Post by k5james on Dec 18, 2012 18:10:27 GMT -8
Look, it almost makes sense that he wouldn't consult them on ECU since it's football only and wouldn't really affect them. But adding Tulane has a direct affect on conference RPI, like at least one of the C-7 AD's noted. Why would they say Aresco didn't consult them if it weren't true? And why would the rest of the C-7 not dispute that he didn't discuss it? The whole Tulane thing came along awfully quickly, and was a knee jerk reaction to losing Louisville. Tulane was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back that triggered the split. I don't know what fantasy world you're living in, but I haven't seen or heard anything to dispute what has been reported here or in the Dodd/CBS story. Bury your head in the sand if you like, but I'm just going by what I've read from multiple sources, and they're all saying the same things. Facts have a way of being inconvenient. "The BIG EAST Board of Directors, by a unanimous vote of its Presidents, extended the invitation to Tulane, which will begin competing in the BIG EAST in the 2014-15 academic year. " Looks like Aresco is not Chavez, unless he is gone made and is using dioramas and action figures for fictitious directors and board meetings. Even then, pretty sure legal council would not allow this release to go out with lies. But hey, I tend to side with common sense.  |
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