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Post by aztecgold on Dec 18, 2012 9:01:22 GMT -8
You guys have short memories. UA has stolen many San Diego recruits from SDSU. Many more than UCLA or any other team. Do the names Buddinger or Walton ring a bell? You think U of A stole them? We were never even in the running. If they didn't go to U of A they would have gone to another Pac 12 or big name school. And exactly how does that make me feel better or less upset with UA stealing our players from San Diego?
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Dec 18, 2012 9:01:51 GMT -8
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Post by socialsdsu on Dec 18, 2012 9:03:44 GMT -8
This thread is embarassing as a whole, Arizona fans has shown far more respect to SDSU than vise versa. They have a terrific team, Mark Lyons will be about as good of a guard we will play all year, Jerrett, Ashley, and big T are terrific freshman bigs, Hill is as good of a glue guy as any in the country.
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Post by sdsustoner on Dec 18, 2012 9:18:56 GMT -8
This thread is embarassing as a whole, Arizona fans has shown far more respect to SDSU than vise versa. They have a terrific team, Mark Lyons will be about as good of a guard we will play all year, Jerrett, Ashley, and big T are terrific freshman bigs, Hill is as good of a glue guy as any in the country. I agree We can only hope one day we have the tradition they have. I felt a lot of pride reading their board and seeing their fans respect for our program, players and coach. U of A fans generally have a lot of knowledge on college hoops. Their beef worries me this year. Hopefully our length and athletes along with a dose of our Big Johnson create match-up issues.
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Post by benaztecfan on Dec 18, 2012 10:36:30 GMT -8
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For the most part I appreciated what they had to say. Just hoping if we meet in the finals we continue our recent success against them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2012 10:46:51 GMT -8
You think U of A stole them? We were never even in the running. If they didn't go to U of A they would have gone to another Pac 12 or big name school. And exactly how does that make me feel better or less upset with UA stealing our players from San Diego? How can they steal something that never belonged to us?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2012 10:51:07 GMT -8
This thread is embarassing as a whole, Arizona fans has shown far more respect to SDSU than vise versa. They have a terrific team, Mark Lyons will be about as good of a guard we will play all year, Jerrett, Ashley, and big T are terrific freshman bigs, Hill is as good of a glue guy as any in the country. Exactly. UA is a terrific program, and too many posters around here act as if we're now the Duke of the west. They owned us for years. It's nice we're finally being able to knock off teams like this quite often.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2012 10:51:42 GMT -8
You think U of A stole them? We were never even in the running. If they didn't go to U of A they would have gone to another Pac 12 or big name school. And exactly how does that make me feel better or less upset with UA stealing our players from San Diego? LOL. Wow.
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Post by Boise Aztec on Dec 18, 2012 11:07:04 GMT -8
Those of us old enough to remember the UofA getting good will remember how long it took them to get regional and then national respect. Back then, it was UCLA and Oregon State under Ralph Miller. Then you had USF through the days of Bill Cartwright and up until San Quentin Daley... Arizona had nothing and it took time. They deserve what they have, 25 straight NCAA tournaments... We are thrilled to have 3...
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Post by NTU on Dec 18, 2012 11:21:02 GMT -8
While UA fans are not as bad as BYU fans, I still remember the game a few years ago when SDSU was beating UA pretty easily and then UA made a run to cut the lead to less than single digits in the second half. The UA fans, who had been relatively shocked and silent the whole game, all of a sudden started chanting U of A, U of A, U of A trying to take over OUR gym. SDSU then went on a big run and won by over 20 as I recall. One on my favorite games as an Aztec fan. Only behind a few BYU games. LOL. BTW although the scheduling problem that year may have been initiated by the Aztecs due to a scheduling conflict, you don't think SDSU's best team ever that year had anything to do with UA not wanting to reschedule it? You guys have short memories. UA has stolen many San Diego recruits from SDSU. Many more than UCLA or any other team. Do the names Buddinger or Walton ring a bell? And yes, UA has a very good team this year that would be a matchup problem inside for the Aztecs. That was exactly the issue. In order for the Aztecs to play the Gonzaga game that year on ESPN, they were forced to push back the trip to Arizona. They tried to reschedule it for later that year, but neither team had a suitable common open date, and thus they were forced to postpone it until the next season--last year--where the Aztecs went in to Tucson and won. Simple as that. No one was ducking out on that game. As for the potential matchup in HI--that should be an unbelievable game, and it will tell us exactly how good this Aztec team is, because Arizona's REALLY good. Let's just hope neither team screws the pooch beforehand and fails to get to the championship game of the tournament.
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Post by monty on Dec 18, 2012 11:26:53 GMT -8
While UA fans are not as bad as BYU fans, I still remember the game a few years ago when SDSU was beating UA pretty easily and then UA made a run to cut the lead to less than single digits in the second half. The UA fans, who had been relatively shocked and silent the whole game, all of a sudden started chanting U of A, U of A, U of A trying to take over OUR gym. SDSU then went on a big run and won by over 20 as I recall. One on my favorite games as an Aztec fan. Only behind a few BYU games. LOL. BTW although the scheduling problem that year may have been initiated by the Aztecs due to a scheduling conflict, you don't think SDSU's best team ever that year had anything to do with UA not wanting to reschedule it? You guys have short memories. UA has stolen many San Diego recruits from SDSU. Many more than UCLA or any other team. Do the names Buddinger or Walton ring a bell? And yes, UA has a very good team this year that would be a matchup problem inside for the Aztecs. That was exactly the issue. In order for the Aztecs to play the Gonzaga game that year on ESPN, they were forced to push back the trip to Arizona. They tried to reschedule it for later that year, but neither team had a suitable common open date, and thus they were forced to postpone it until the next season--last year--where the Aztecs went in to Tucson and won. Simple as that. No one was ducking out on that game. As for the potential matchup in HI--that should be an unbelievable game, and it will tell us exactly how good this Aztec team is, because Arizona's REALLY good. Let's just hope neither team screws the pooch beforehand and fails to get to the championship game of the tournament. You oversimplify it, Fisher made a comment in the press to the effect that they'd rather not reschedule it. Wasn't a full duck, but they were more than happy not to play it, of course that UofA team really came together anyway.
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Post by sdsustoner on Dec 18, 2012 11:30:04 GMT -8
This thread is embarassing as a whole, Arizona fans has shown far more respect to SDSU than vise versa. They have a terrific team, Mark Lyons will be about as good of a guard we will play all year, Jerrett, Ashley, and big T are terrific freshman bigs, Hill is as good of a glue guy as any in the country. Exactly. UA is a terrific program, and too many posters around here act as if we're now the Duke of the west. They owned us for years. It's nice we're finally being able to knock off teams like this quite often. That brought back nightmares to us trying to be the Miami of the west in football.
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Post by TheSanDiegan on Dec 18, 2012 11:57:20 GMT -8
I would be curious to hear why you think it is more likely than not that the top two seeds in the DHC won't advance to the final. Who, exactly, do you think is going to lose to whom? I was thinking the same thing. SDSU and Arizona will be highly favored in their first games and favored in their second games. I guess 4 games have to go one way for them to play each other in the finals. If the chance of each game is: 90%, 90%, 78%, 78%, than the overall chance would be 49% that they are both in the finals. So that would mean they probably would not meet. Beautiful. It never fails to amaze how counterintuitive the field of statistics is... Even if we beat USF 9 times out of ten and Ole Miss/Indiant St just thee times of four, and AZ similarly takes car of business on their end of the bracket with similar respective probabilities of success, it is indeed more likely than not we do not play each other in the finals. However, if one were to postulate that we would beat either Ole Miss or Indiana St. four out of five times, and similarly, AZ would beat Miami or Hawaii with the same degree of regularity, than the odds we would play AZ in the finals would be over 51%. Regardless, with all this in mind, I am still curious to know why 1611 thinks it's not likely that we will meet AZ in the finals.
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Post by AZK619 on Dec 18, 2012 12:42:49 GMT -8
I also read what they had to said, and for most part its really respectful. Classy fans pretty much. I just hope we meet.
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Post by aztecgold on Dec 18, 2012 16:10:05 GMT -8
This thread is embarassing as a whole, Arizona fans has shown far more respect to SDSU than vise versa. They have a terrific team, Mark Lyons will be about as good of a guard we will play all year, Jerrett, Ashley, and big T are terrific freshman bigs, Hill is as good of a glue guy as any in the country. Exactly! The fact that someone from our board went over to the UA board to look at their comments to see what they think of SDSU basketball is pretty sad. Who cares what they think? Sounds pretty insecure to me. Don't quite understand the love for UA though, since they have beaten our brains out for years. Everyone here seems to hate UCLA, USC, and BYU, but UA gets a pass. Ok. Whatever. BTW my thoughts on UA fans may be somewhat biased since one of my friends is real UA honk and is constantly giving me a hard time. And the sad part is that he graduated from SDSU.
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Post by NTU on Dec 18, 2012 16:31:03 GMT -8
That was exactly the issue. In order for the Aztecs to play the Gonzaga game that year on ESPN, they were forced to push back the trip to Arizona. They tried to reschedule it for later that year, but neither team had a suitable common open date, and thus they were forced to postpone it until the next season--last year--where the Aztecs went in to Tucson and won. Simple as that. No one was ducking out on that game. As for the potential matchup in HI--that should be an unbelievable game, and it will tell us exactly how good this Aztec team is, because Arizona's REALLY good. Let's just hope neither team screws the pooch beforehand and fails to get to the championship game of the tournament. You oversimplify it, Fisher made a comment in the press to the effect that they'd rather not reschedule it. Wasn't a full duck, but they were more than happy not to play it, of course that UofA team really came together anyway. It was a matter of timing: Because of that lame "tournament" that took the team from Spokane to Oxford (and sent Gonzaga to Madison Square Garden after we beat them), and that other tournament in Vegas (another disaster), and given the time frame that Sean Miller was looking for, they couldn't find a mutually agreeable date. True that neither side was horribly broken up about it, and that they were both more than happy to reschedule it for the next year. But my understanding is that they really did try to find a date to play it that same year.
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Post by bschmurda on Dec 18, 2012 16:31:52 GMT -8
informed and respectful fans
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Post by monty on Dec 18, 2012 16:41:33 GMT -8
You oversimplify it, Fisher made a comment in the press to the effect that they'd rather not reschedule it. Wasn't a full duck, but they were more than happy not to play it, of course that UofA team really came together anyway. It was a matter of timing: Because of that lame "tournament" that took the team from Spokane to Oxford (and sent Gonzaga to Madison Square Garden after we beat them), and that other tournament in Vegas (another disaster), and given the time frame that Sean Miller was looking for, they couldn't find a mutually agreeable date. True that neither side was horribly broken up about it, and that they were both more than happy to reschedule it for the next year. But my understanding is that they really did try to find a date to play it that same year.
To get into the CBE Classic, Fisher had to defer a road game at Arizona on Nov. 16. He said he told Arizona coach Sean Miller that he would play any other date, but he said Miller opted to postpone hosting the game until 2011. espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/5400485/san-diego-state-aztecs-coach-steve-fisher-works-hard-fill-nonconference-schedule-2010-11There was a more telling quote, but that took 10 secs to find and I don't feel like looking through the SDUT Hx.
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Post by NTU on Dec 18, 2012 17:15:44 GMT -8
It was a matter of timing: Because of that lame "tournament" that took the team from Spokane to Oxford (and sent Gonzaga to Madison Square Garden after we beat them), and that other tournament in Vegas (another disaster), and given the time frame that Sean Miller was looking for, they couldn't find a mutually agreeable date. True that neither side was horribly broken up about it, and that they were both more than happy to reschedule it for the next year. But my understanding is that they really did try to find a date to play it that same year.
To get into the CBE Classic, Fisher had to defer a road game at Arizona on Nov. 16. He said he told Arizona coach Sean Miller that he would play any other date, but he said Miller opted to postpone hosting the game until 2011. espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/5400485/san-diego-state-aztecs-coach-steve-fisher-works-hard-fill-nonconference-schedule-2010-11There was a more telling quote, but that took 10 secs to find and I don't feel like looking through the SDUT Hx. I remember that article. Even have it bookmarked myself. My takeaway from that is that UofA already had their schedule set to Miller's liking outside of that particular game and just didn't have any room elsewhere to squeeze it in. No harm, no foul, let's play it next year.
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Post by Aztec Empire on Dec 18, 2012 17:31:04 GMT -8
This thread is embarassing as a whole, Arizona fans has shown far more respect to SDSU than vise versa. They have a terrific team, Mark Lyons will be about as good of a guard we will play all year, Jerrett, Ashley, and big T are terrific freshman bigs, Hill is as good of a glue guy as any in the country. Exactly! The fact that someone from our board went over to the UA board to look at their comments to see what they think of SDSU basketball is pretty sad. Who cares what they think? Sounds pretty insecure to me. Don't quite understand the love for UA though, since they have beaten our brains out for years. Everyone here seems to hate UCLA, USC, and BYU, but UA gets a pass. Ok. Whatever. BTW my thoughts on UA fans may be somewhat biased since one of my friends is real UA honk and is constantly giving me a hard time. And the sad part is that he graduated from SDSU. I think for most of us who enjoy reading the opinions of the opposition, insecurity has nothing to do with it. It's always interesting to read an outside perspective on our program and find out what kind of analysis they have for upcoming games. Good content generally breeds respect and bad content is usually entertaining. Also, "know your enemy" probably plays a part as well.
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