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Post by 12power on Nov 12, 2012 16:21:26 GMT -8
BIG EAST Sr. Associate Comissioner says: "Mission Accomplished" Nick Carparelli @nickcarparelli
@slmandel It wasn't about a 7th bowl. It was about a guaranteed spot. It is better for everyone if there are 6 bowls. Mission accomplished!
“@slmandel: Official announcement shortly, BCS 2.0 will be 6 bowls, with guaranteed spot for highest Big East/non-AQ”
Dan Wolken @danwolken
Big East people always told me they were never overly concerned about access. Looks like they had it pegged.
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Post by azteceric on Nov 12, 2012 16:45:29 GMT -8
Awesome, what does that mean financially though?
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Post by AztecBill on Nov 12, 2012 16:54:36 GMT -8
BIG EAST Sr. Associate Comissioner says: "Mission Accomplished" Nick Carparelli @nickcarparelli @slmandel It wasn't about a 7th bowl. It was about a guaranteed spot. It is better for everyone if there are 6 bowls. Mission accomplished! “@slmandel: Official announcement shortly, BCS 2.0 will be 6 bowls, with guaranteed spot for highest Big East/non-AQ” Dan Wolken @danwolken Big East people always told me they were never overly concerned about access. Looks like they had it pegged. "Guaranteed spot for highest Big East/non-AQ", doesn't sound like "a guaranteed spot" for the Big East. It is a maybe spot for the Big East. I also wonder if the money is split between The Big East and non-AQ. Like when the MWC went to a BCS bowl and only got 60% of what the other conferences got.
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Post by sdcjohnny on Nov 12, 2012 16:57:10 GMT -8
Is it top Big east or other Non-AQ? Basically we got lumped in with the rest?
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Nov 12, 2012 16:57:14 GMT -8
Awesome, what does that mean financially though? 1,000 times better than what we currently have.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Nov 12, 2012 16:59:19 GMT -8
Is it top Big east or other Non-AQ? Basically we got lumped in with the rest? “While it may hurt the pride to see the Big East lumped in with those other conferences, the fact remains that this is a victory for the Big East. Because this conference -- given the schools remaining and the schools entering next season -- should finish with the highest ranked team out of this group every single year. Look at the past history. Current or future Big East schools would have gotten a guaranteed spot eight of the past nine years. Hawaii in 2007 is the only exception. So even though there will be no "automatic qualifier" label moving forward, there will be six automatic spots available, and the Big East has a great shot to get one of them every single season. “ espn.go.com/blog/bigeast/post/_/id/39196/big-east-gets-access-in-future-playoff-formatIn Aresco I trust! (so happy we don't have Crig Thompson leading us anymore) Other BE bowl tie-ins are already in the works as well. This is essentially a Big East automatic qualifying spot to the Big $$$ Bowls. The other 4 conferences (MWC, C-USA, MAC & Sun Belt) will have a very slim chance at the AQ spot. This is a win for the Big East. Next up is our $10+ million TV contract. Then team # 14.
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Post by AztecSports95 on Nov 12, 2012 17:02:08 GMT -8
Perspective: 90% of our move to the Big East was based on television revenue and not BCS qualification, because we knew all along BCS was going to change dramatically. So while we're basically in the same boat with the AQ as we would have been had we not moved, the TV revenue is where we will be the big winners and the MWC we leave behind will be .... left behind.
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Post by sdcjohnny on Nov 12, 2012 17:02:29 GMT -8
OK I saw this in the other thread. Sounds good to me.
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Post by podpeople on Nov 12, 2012 17:14:30 GMT -8
the big east, with the schools being added will be in the top five conferences in power rankings year in and year out. f****** ESPN can suck my zorch!
Down with ESPN!
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Post by retiredaztec on Nov 12, 2012 18:13:44 GMT -8
Awesome, what does that mean financially though? 1,000 times better than what we currently have. The other four conferences from the "group of five" may also feel the same way.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 18:52:26 GMT -8
"Guaranteed spot for highest Big East/non-AQ", doesn't sound like "a guaranteed spot" for the Big East. It is a maybe spot for the Big East. Thanks, Bill. What a crock. This guy is as slimy as Craig Thompson.
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Post by RockNFish on Nov 12, 2012 19:00:20 GMT -8
It will be interesting to see how the $$ are divided. Sounds like 20% for the "others"" but will that be divided equally (like now) or will it go to the access bowl rep.
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Post by k5james on Nov 12, 2012 19:20:25 GMT -8
It will be interesting to see how the $$ are divided. Sounds like 20% for the "others"" but will that be divided equally (like now) or will it go to the access bowl rep. That's the most important tidbit.
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Post by aztecfankrishnan on Nov 12, 2012 19:32:13 GMT -8
I'm not buy the "mission accomplished" argument either. Many of the 8 of 9 years was actually Boise as the highest ranked team. The Big East already had an automatic qualifier, so you are really just replacing a Big East team with Boise and now the Big East gets a lesser share of the revenue. Further, the position is hardly guaranteed. You are going to see teams like Nevada and Fresno State emerge with very few losses every year with such a weak conference. I could see both schools going undefeated and out-ranking a 1 or 2 lost Big East champ with a much tougher schedule.
It's clearly better for SDSU then the past, but definitely a step back for the Big East overall. A 7th bowl game with an auto bid would have been much better.
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Post by k5james on Nov 12, 2012 19:47:20 GMT -8
I'm not buy the "mission accomplished" argument either. Many of the 8 of 9 years was actually Boise as the highest ranked team. The Big East already had an automatic qualifier, so you are really just replacing a Big East team with Boise and now the Big East gets a lesser share of the revenue. Further, the position is hardly guaranteed. You are going to see teams like Nevada and Fresno State emerge with very few losses every year with such a weak conference. I could see both schools going undefeated and out-ranking a 1 or 2 lost Big East champ with a much tougher schedule. It's clearly better for SDSU then the past, but definitely a step back for the Big East overall. A 7th bowl game with an auto bid would have been much better. The 7th bowl was never going to be an autobid. It was going to be this same setup. Aresco worked enough magic to give us the same deal but with six bowls. It's a win, not a huge one, but one the same. The SOS isn't going to be enough for the other four conferences to outrank a BE school.
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Post by fowl on Nov 12, 2012 19:53:18 GMT -8
The one thing that might trip up the BE in getting that spot is the conf championship game. The MWC chamnpion won't have to go through that.
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Post by aztecfankrishnan on Nov 12, 2012 20:14:25 GMT -8
I'm not buy the "mission accomplished" argument either. Many of the 8 of 9 years was actually Boise as the highest ranked team. The Big East already had an automatic qualifier, so you are really just replacing a Big East team with Boise and now the Big East gets a lesser share of the revenue. Further, the position is hardly guaranteed. You are going to see teams like Nevada and Fresno State emerge with very few losses every year with such a weak conference. I could see both schools going undefeated and out-ranking a 1 or 2 lost Big East champ with a much tougher schedule. It's clearly better for SDSU then the past, but definitely a step back for the Big East overall. A 7th bowl game with an auto bid would have been much better. The 7th bowl was never going to be an autobid. It was going to be this same setup. Aresco worked enough magic to give us the same deal but with six bowls. It's a win, not a huge one, but one the same. The SOS isn't going to be enough for the other four conferences to outrank a BE school. Aresco was definitely trying to get the 7th bowl to be a BE auto-bid at one point. But, it is a win to at least get some sort of guaranteed access.
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Post by uncledougy on Nov 12, 2012 20:41:56 GMT -8
The one thing that might trip up the BE in getting that spot is the conf championship game. The MWC chamnpion won't have to go through that. Thats what they said when the SEC started the conference championship games, but all it really does is further guarantee the BE winner a spot with the Big Boys having won a championship game. You could look at the BE championship as the first round of the playoffs. If you win, 90% chance you will get the bid.
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Post by fanhood on Nov 12, 2012 20:58:36 GMT -8
If I am the Big East, I am happy because I believe that most years, we will have the highest ranked team, even at 12-1 and possibly at 11-2.
If I am in the MW, I am happy because history has shown a 12-0 or 11-1 team will have a solid chance at being in the Top 15 thus have a legit chance of getting in the Bowl Game.
If I am Conference USA, see MW statement.
If I am the Sun Belt, I am just happy for having a chance.
If I am the MAC, see Sun Belt statement.
If I am from the other 5 BCS Conferences I am happy because I have still maintained my groups elite status.
If I am me, oh wait, I am, I see how this is just another way to limit access and keep the distance between the Haves and the Have Nots.
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