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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 6:04:36 GMT -8
I learned that Jamaal reminds me more and more of that Henderson kid that used to play for Utah.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Nov 12, 2012 6:19:27 GMT -8
We still clang 3-4 footers in the paint!
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Post by ned4 on Nov 12, 2012 6:52:56 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 7:15:59 GMT -8
We have a lot to build off of from this game. Still a long season ahead a long way to go for the team to reach its peak. Syracuse is simply a nightmare matchup for us. So much bigger, yet if they were a man-to-man defensive team, I do believe the game would have been closer, regardless of how big they were. I was actually surprised at how well we were able to get inside the zone, we attacked very well, loved our aggressiveness. Regardless, we have to make free throws and we have to make layups. Too many of both were missed.
The better team won yesterday, but the Aztecs will be a much better team 4 months from now than what we saw yesterday.
Always stings to lose a big game though.
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Post by 12414 on Nov 12, 2012 7:30:12 GMT -8
That moving the game to the Sports Arena would have been a good option.
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Post by 84aztec96 on Nov 12, 2012 7:47:54 GMT -8
Here's what I do know. Based on their play today, Aztecs can play with any team in the Country! Rebounds - Orangemen 45 Aztecs 44. (20 offensive). Last season, Aztecs had no frontline, now they do. Last season, as a team, Aztecs did not get to the free-throw line. Today, Aztecs got to the free throw line 33 times against a team playing a 2-3 Zone. This is a tremendous feat for the Aztecs against a frontline that blocked over 10 shots! Now, the Aztecs players should have confidence in driving the ball to the basket instead of relying on shooting 3 points shots. That's the main positive thing I take from this game too. This was not like the NIT game against Syracuse a few years ago, where I was left thinking "these guys are in a totally different league than us." And that Syracuse team was in the NIT!!! It was good that we were forced to take it to the rim because of the conditions outside. Keep doing that instead of just relying on the outside shoot. Because we are not that good of a three point shooting team (unless Rahon regains his form to complement Tapley). Yeah they had 10 blocks but we got to the line 33 times. I like that. Now hit those free throws!
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Post by Old School on Nov 12, 2012 7:54:56 GMT -8
We have no low post game. No more Billy to Malcom tandem to battle the bigs.
Oldie Out
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Post by azteccc on Nov 12, 2012 8:10:23 GMT -8
That rally scotch, in fact, does not always work.
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Post by docmm on Nov 12, 2012 8:13:49 GMT -8
That we can attack the basket and get to the line no matter how freakin' big the other team is. If the other team isn't really deep, we can get them in serious foul trouble.I loved that part of it. I'm sure some of it was Syracuse's size but the court looked so small and cluttered all the time. That we have to run a fast break with some amount of control. That Franklin HAS to stop trying to be such a hardass and just play basketball. That we're going to be just fine this year. I wish Spencer would have gotten some playing time just to see how he would have done on defense. They kept taking it inside, I think he could have been a big help.
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Post by aztecmichael on Nov 12, 2012 8:25:59 GMT -8
That we can attack the basket and get to the line no matter how freakin' big the other team is. If the other team isn't really deep, we can get them in serious foul trouble.I loved that part of it. I'm sure some of it was Syracuse's size but the court looked so small and cluttered all the time. That we have to run a fast break with some amount of control. That Franklin HAS to stop trying to be such a hardass and just play basketball. That we're going to be just fine this year. I wish Spencer would have gotten some playing time just to see how he would have done on defense. They kept taking it inside, I think he could have been a big help. Great analysis. I think if the coaching staff had to do it over again, they would not have had the kids push the ball so hard up the court. We gave up at least 10 points because we were trying to do too much with the ball AFTER making a great steal or rebound. It turns out if we would have brought the ball up with control, the game would have been much closer. I mean, when De Shawn Stevens is trying to dribble between two Syracuse players at midcourt and then make a pass, we got problems. Where is the leadership at guard to demand the ball? I do worry about our lack of leadership. Either Thames or Tapley is going to have be stronger about demanding the ball and demanding organization. Or this won't be the last ugly game we play.
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Post by aztecnole on Nov 12, 2012 8:39:00 GMT -8
We learned that "carrier classics" in the open are a bad idea.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 8:39:13 GMT -8
We still clang 3-4 footers in the paint! Explanation: intimidation by Syracuse's bigs. Coleman #32 is a tall freshman who already has an NBA body. SDSU has never had a player like that coming straight out of HS. And he merely manned the middle of their zone. The two guys out on the wing looked like Thomas and Leonard. Syracuse is going to win a lot of games this year. Maybe the NC.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Nov 12, 2012 8:44:19 GMT -8
We still clang 3-4 footers in the paint! Explanation: intimidation by Syracuse's bigs. Coleman #32 is a tall freshman who already has an NBA body. SDSU has never had a player like that coming straight out of HS. And he merely manned the middle of their zone. The two guys out on the wing looked like Thomas and Leonard. Syracuse is going to win a lot of games this year. Maybe the NC. Yes and Boeheim will run into a guard oriented team on one of their "hot shooting nights" and lose 1 game because they sat in that zone. If you don't miss you gon't need to rebound.
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Post by zollner on Nov 12, 2012 8:45:44 GMT -8
The Syracuse guards took are guards off the dribble anytime they wanted to. They took a lot of 5 to 10 foot shots and made them, we missed the same type of shots or got them blocked. The orange players were just better today and more equipped to deal with the conditions. I thought Shepard showed he could play at this level, though his stats don't reflect that. I thought the block on J.M.'s dunk attempt summed up the game.
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Post by aztecbee on Nov 12, 2012 8:47:17 GMT -8
I thought are transition defense was lacking. We gave up eight points on poor transition. The newbies did not seem to have the hustle. There was a pocket of energy in the second half and that was it. Part of what made the last few years good was never giving up an easy basket
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Post by AztecBill on Nov 12, 2012 9:26:59 GMT -8
To start the game Syracuse knew there was no threat from penetration and a kick to an open shooter. They knew that there was no threat from fouling. Syracuse could therefore pack the zone in tight whenever the Aztecs penetrated and if necessary foul with impunity. We therefore learned very little in the first half. The second half was different. The Aztecs got the good side of the court. That side was more protected due to the control tower blocking most of the wind. 3 point shots were still an issue but at least when they fouled we had a shot at making the free throws. Syracuse could still pack the zone but at least they couldn't foul with impunity. The second half was much closer. Rebounding | Off Reb | Def Reb | FT Off Reb | FT Def Reb | FG Off Reb | FG Def Reb | Off R% | Def R% | FG Off R% | FG Def R% | Syracuse | 10 | 35 | 1 | 5 | 9 | 30 | 29.4% | 63.6% | 31.0% | 63.8% | SDSU | 20 | 24 | 3 | 4 | 17 | 20 | 36.4% | 70.6% | 36.2% | 69.0% |
FT Off Reb = Offensive Rebounds from missed FT Attempts. FT Def Reb = Defensive Rebounds from missed FT Attempts. FG Off Reb = Offensive Rebounds from FG Attempts (eliminate FT rebounds). FG Def Reb = Defensive Rebounds from FG Attempts (eliminate FT rebounds). Off R% = Offensive rebound Percentage (OR / (OR + Opp DR) Def R% = Defensive rebound Percentage (DR / (DR + Opp OR) FG Off R% = Same as Off R% but removing FT rebounds. FG Def R% = Same as Def R% but removing FT rebounds. The Rebounding bottom line is the Aztecs not only held their own rebounding, they did better than Syracuse. Using last year's conference games as a point of reference: | Off Reb % | Def Reb % | Total | Aztecs 2012 | 30.2% | 72.5% | 102.7% | Aztecs on Midway | 36.4% | 70.6% | 107.0% |
New Mexico lead the MWC in offensive rebound percentage at 33.8%. That is close to 3% below what the Aztecs did on the Midway. At least one sign that maybe we will rebound OK this year.
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Post by aztecandrew on Nov 12, 2012 10:16:53 GMT -8
If you were in section 203, you learned why the NCAA doesn't allow alcohol sales during on-campus events. Quite embarrassing.
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Post by aztecfankrishnan on Nov 12, 2012 10:30:21 GMT -8
We didn't learn to much. This was an "event" and it was all about the experience. Syracuse is the absolute worst team in the country to play under those conditions. I don't think any team in America could beat Syracuse in the same position. With that said, I think it was good for the players to play such a long and athletic team this early in the season. It won't be such a shock to the system when they play a similar team in the tournament.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 10:41:55 GMT -8
If you were in section 203, you learned why the NCAA doesn't allow alcohol sales during on-campus events. Quite embarrassing. Bummer, sorry to hear about that. I have to say, I really enjoyed having an ice cold beer watching a basketball game in the sun.
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Post by aztecgold on Nov 12, 2012 10:45:15 GMT -8
Don't play Syracuse outside on an aircraft carrier in the wind.
And Franklin should definitely NOT even think about leaving early for the NBA. That is ridiculous.
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