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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2012 12:49:31 GMT -8
Better go tell the Show board. They'll think you're funny. Maybe I'll finally get the internet approval I've always dreamed of. Sorry to offend but my point simply was I didn't read anything beyond the ludicrous post by the Rebel fan and came to the identical conclusion about it that a few others did. Hence the identical characterization of it.
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Post by longtimesdsufan on Oct 14, 2012 13:12:11 GMT -8
Rebel, you really don't know much about basketball. If getting the best recruits won championships, then Kentucky, UCLA, Duke and the likes would win every year.
It is about coaching! If you knew pro players or scouts, they would tell you that UNLV has better players than SDSU almost every year. It is not about who has the highest rated recruiting class.
Fisher makes players better and knows how to make winning teams. And now we are getting better players than every before.
UNLV should be nervous. If they don't do really well this year, the bubble will burst.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Oct 14, 2012 13:17:40 GMT -8
Talk about a pot calling the kettle black... You all come here on our turf, talk about situational stats (recruit rankings and class rankings) and remind us of how well you did way back in the latter part of the last millennium and ignore the fact that you can't beat us despite having those incredible recruit statistics. Come back when you win a season series against us. Until then, you are merely a barking dog, chained to a post. Thanks for proving me right on the broken record, I got 10 Aztec fans to use the same "pot meet kettle" line in consecutive posts. lol ;D Recruiting rankings aren't convenient situational statistics, they are what they are. Your x out of y, taken right before UNLV's latest string of wins, 21 years, 7 years, whatever it takes to put SDSU ahead while ignoring any logical timeframes..Like since the inception of the MWC (series tied) or overall (UNLV owns it) Can't beat you with incredible recruits? We haven't played a game with them yet. What are you basing your opinion on here? You guys are jumping the gun here, the biggest recruiting class of the last 20 years hasn't suited up for a game yet. So once again, your preconceived assumptions of how UNLV will do despite their Top-10 recruiting class, or how our 5-star talent will shake-up are just that. Assumptions. Feel free to actually read my psot. First, I can't help it if 10 (actually your UNLV math is bad but I digress) psotters came to the same independant conclusion after reading your missive. Second, I never said anything about beating you and your incredible recruits, I asked you to come back when you beat us in a season series. Here's the rub. Your fellow re-bulls have been on here, uninvited, every year for the past 5 years telling us how your (insert year) recruiting class and coach (insert name) are going to become the class of the league, separate yourselves and reach the rarified air you reached in 1990 as a member of the PCAA/Big West. It has been excruciating, akin to fingernails on a blackboard and in the end, for the past 5 years, you've beaten us twice. The guys have done their talking on the court, not in April-October. We also then get the caveat, like you have done here, by reminding us of how great you once were, like William Shatner, Betty White or Abe Vigoda. How you will again separate yourselves from the pack and fall in the UNC/Duke, etc fraternity. To me, you all remind me of the Army Football version of college basketball. Frankly, you have been just another Re-Bull to come here with a patterned troll that frankly has fallen on skeptical ears. Show us, don't tell us. We've heard that song before and it was a 1990 song... Sinead O'Conner and Vanilla Ice baby!
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Post by rebels18 on Oct 14, 2012 13:30:04 GMT -8
Rebel, you really don't know much about basketball. If getting the best recruits won championships, then Kentucky, UCLA, Duke and the likes would win every year. It is about coaching! If you knew pro players or scouts, they would tell you that UNLV has better players than SDSU almost every year. It is not about who has the highest rated recruiting class. Fisher makes players better and knows how to make winning teams. And now we are getting better players than every before. UNLV should be nervous. If they don't do really well this year, the bubble will burst. Wow, could you ever be so wrong in the face of overwhelming evidence? Getting the best recruits is EXACTLY why teams like Kentucky, UCLA, Duke, etc win the Natl. Championship every year. College basketball is a game that's all-about recruiting. Where's this parity of programs winning Natl. Champs who don't get Top-10 Classes??? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_Men%27s_Division_I_Basketball_ChampionsGo ahead and check that list for me. UCLA, Duke, Kentucky, UNC, UCONN, Kansas.Billy Donovan, Coach K, Calipari, Self, Izzo, Calhoun..All polished recruiters who consistently pull in Top-20 recruiting classes every year loaded with 4-5 star talent Who was the last non-BCS conference team to win it? UNLV. In a 15+ yr career at UNLV Tarkanian finally got his championship on the back of elite talent: Johnson, Augmon, etc.
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Post by aztecmusician on Oct 14, 2012 13:31:36 GMT -8
A team of players that UNLV 'passes' on or is 'table scraps' would beat UNLV 9 out of 11 - oh wait, it has Pretty much, you guys are a broken record. Just like UCSB you have to rely on a situational statistics to make you feel better about your little irrelevant program compared to UNLV, every stat you and UCSB have against UNLV is twisted in some convenient time-frame. UNLV is a nationally recognized program, whenever ESPN does a ranking of Top MBB programs UNLV is never listed outside the Top-20... Top 5 winningest program of All-Time. It all speaks for itself. Just like UCSB, your biggest bragging rights stem from beating UNLV, even though UNLV owns the all-time against both of you...and now you'll be in the same conference as them. ;D Priceless....10 years from now you can reminisce of your glory days of beating UNLV when watching UNLV compete in Final Fours to distract you from the Aztec's NIT seeding. 2 NCAA Tournament Victories All-Time..Your program's crowning achievements the last 20 years(and all-time) doesn't even match UNLV's worst, darkest years. Congrats on that 0-star Williams kid, I guess we'll just have to be content with another 5-star talent. ;D Situational statistics like wins and losses? Yes, UNLV does have the legacy, but the last 5 years the Aztecs have owned the strip.
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Post by jdgaucho on Oct 14, 2012 13:35:34 GMT -8
Rebel, you really don't know much about basketball. If getting the best recruits won championships, then Kentucky, UCLA, Duke and the likes would win every year. It is about coaching! If you knew pro players or scouts, they would tell you that UNLV has better players than SDSU almost every year. It is not about who has the highest rated recruiting class. Fisher makes players better and knows how to make winning teams. And now we are getting better players than every before. UNLV should be nervous. If they don't do really well this year, the bubble will burst. Wow, could you ever be so wrong in the face of overwhelming evidence? Getting the best recruits is EXACTLY why teams like Kentucky, UCLA, Duke, etc win the Natl. Championship every year. College basketball is a game that's all-about recruiting. Where's this parity of programs winning Natl. Champs who don't get Top-10 Classes??? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_Men%27s_Division_I_Basketball_ChampionsGo ahead and check that list for me. UCLA, Duke, Kentucky, UNC, UCONN, Kansas.Billy Donovan, Coach K, Calipari, Self, Izzo, Calhoun..All polished recruiters who consistently pull in Top-20 recruiting classes every year loaded with 4-5 star talent Who was the last non-BCS conference team to win it? UNLV. In a 15+ yr career at UNLV Tarkanian finally got his championship on the back of elite talent: Johnson, Augmon, etc. There were two consecutive title games for Butler...
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Post by rebels18 on Oct 14, 2012 13:41:46 GMT -8
Wow, could you ever be so wrong in the face of overwhelming evidence? Getting the best recruits is EXACTLY why teams like Kentucky, UCLA, Duke, etc win the Natl. Championship every year. College basketball is a game that's all-about recruiting. Where's this parity of programs winning Natl. Champs who don't get Top-10 Classes??? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_Men%27s_Division_I_Basketball_ChampionsGo ahead and check that list for me. UCLA, Duke, Kentucky, UNC, UCONN, Kansas.Billy Donovan, Coach K, Calipari, Self, Izzo, Calhoun..All polished recruiters who consistently pull in Top-20 recruiting classes every year loaded with 4-5 star talent Who was the last non-BCS conference team to win it? UNLV. In a 15+ yr career at UNLV Tarkanian finally got his championship on the back of elite talent: Johnson, Augmon, etc. There were two consecutive title games for Butler... Naming a very rare, rare exception doesn't change the rule: Recruiting is the name of the game in college basketball..and the evidence overwhelmingly support that theory. Anybody that knows anything about CBB knows this as fact. Anyone else is just kidding themselves.
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Post by jdgaucho on Oct 14, 2012 13:46:55 GMT -8
There were two consecutive title games for Butler... Naming a very rare, rare exception doesn't change the rule: Recruiting is the name of the game in college basketball..and the evidence overwhelmingly support that theory. Anybody that knows anything about CBB knows this as fact. Anyone else is just kidding themselves. that rare exception happened quite recently too, in '10 and '11. While we have no idea how that will translate in terms of recruiting, sending a couple guys to the NBA from those teams will certainly help.
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Post by TheSanDiegan on Oct 14, 2012 13:48:10 GMT -8
Billy Donovan, Coach K, Calipari, Self, Izzo, Calhoun..All polished recruiters who consistently pull in Top-20 recruiting classes every year loaded with 4-5 star talent... All coaches who unlike Bowl Cut can actually coach. I appreciate your collective blind faith in the Ghost of Tourneys Past, but in the absence of better coaching and player development - the reason for our continued dominance over the Rubes for the better part of a decade - your over-hyped 4* and 5* recruits will continue to underachieve and get their assess handed to them by our better-coached squad. But hey, all that recruiting makes for a great poster, right? And that in a nutshell is UNLV: All icing, no cake.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Oct 14, 2012 13:54:08 GMT -8
There were two consecutive title games for Butler... Naming a very rare, rare exception doesn't change the rule: Recruiting is the name of the game in college basketball..and the evidence overwhelmingly support that theory. Anybody that knows anything about CBB knows this as fact. Anyone else is just kidding themselves. Then what explains your lacky status to SDSU over the past 5 years? You certainly have out-recruited us over the past decade...
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Post by rebels18 on Oct 14, 2012 14:01:18 GMT -8
Billy Donovan, Coach K, Calipari, Self, Izzo, Calhoun..All polished recruiters who consistently pull in Top-20 recruiting classes every year loaded with 4-5 star talent... All coaches who unlike Bowl Cut can actually coach. I appreciate your blind, collective blind faith in the Ghost of Tourneys Past, but in the absence of better coaching and player development - the reason for our continued dominance over the Rubes for the better part of a decade - your over-hyped 4* and 5* recruits will continue to underachieve and get their assess handed to them by our better-coached squad. But hey, all that recruiting makes for a great poster, right? And that in a nutshell is UNLV: All icing, no cake. Coming from a Steve Fisher fan that is absolutely rich. If he was such a great coach that didn't need to rely on talent to win why did it take him 11 years at SDSU to win a NCAA game ala Sweet-16 season? Oh yeah! It was on the back of the two greatest recruiting classes in SDSU's history. (prior to 2012 class) where SDSU picked up multiple Top-100 recruits (2007+2009) Want to look at Fisher's past career? Riding the back of the Fab Five in Michigan's Golden Era (sanctioned in recruiting scandal inwhich Fisher was involved) Read my sh*t on the MWC board, no-one is a bigger critic of Rice than me..But regardless of his own coaching ability and haircut, it remains to be seen what he does with the elite talent. But considering it's not just homer UNLV fans hyping UNLV, but CBS/ESPN analysts ranking UNLV as a Top-10 team and Final Four contenders. A little different. How can 5* talent "continue" to underachieve at UNLV when they haven't had talent like this since the Tark days? SDSU has never faced a UNLV team with this talent SINCE the Tark days. Matter of fact, that ownage you had over us was done in a period when you had those two great recruiting classes. You guys continue to contradict yourselves..But not surprising coming from situational statistics U.
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Post by TheSanDiegan on Oct 14, 2012 14:36:51 GMT -8
All coaches who unlike Bowl Cut can actually coach. I appreciate your blind, collective blind faith in the Ghost of Tourneys Past, but in the absence of better coaching and player development - the reason for our continued dominance over the Rubes for the better part of a decade - your over-hyped 4* and 5* recruits will continue to underachieve and get their assess handed to them by our better-coached squad. But hey, all that recruiting makes for a great poster, right? And that in a nutshell is UNLV: All icing, no cake. Coming from a Steve Fisher fan that is absolutely rich. If he was such a great coach that didn't need to rely on talent to win why did it take him 11 years at SDSU to win a NCAA game ala Sweet-16 season? Oh yeah! It was on the back of the two greatest recruiting classes in SDSU's history. (prior to 2012 class) where SDSU picked up multiple Top-100 recruits (2007+2009) Want to look at Fisher's past career? Riding the back of the Fab Five in Michigan's Golden Era (sanctioned in recruiting scandal inwhich Fisher was involved) Read my sh*t on the MWC board, no-one is a bigger critic of Rice than me..But regardless of his own coaching ability and haircut, it remains to be seen what he does with the elite talent. But considering it's not just homer UNLV fans hyping UNLV, but CBS/ESPN analysts ranking UNLV as a Top-10 team and Final Four contenders. A little different. How can 5* talent "continue" to underachieve at UNLV when they haven't had talent like this since the Tark days? SDSU has never faced a UNLV team with this talent SINCE the Tark days. Matter of fact, that ownage you had over us was done in a period when you had those two great recruiting classes. You guys continue to contradict yourselves..But not surprising coming from situational statistics U. Like Rice (well, kind of like Rice, as unlke Bowl Cut, Fish has actually won a natty as a coach), I will agree that Fish's past success most definitely helps with recruiting. But recruiting is not a sufficient condition. You have to develop your players and coach them to success, something Fish has a proven track record of doing. After last season, I have no reason to believe Kruger wouldn't have accomplsihed the same damn thing with these Rebels (.500 on the road, choke in pressure situations, fade to black on your own court in the conference tourney). Looking forward, while we have plenty of evidence demonstrative of Fish's success as a coach, we have absolutely no evidence to support that Bowl Cut will acocmplish anything. Not a damn thing. And until you actually manage to re-write history, you're no better than a .500 team on the road incapable of winning a conference tourney on your own court. Finally, with regards as to why it took Fish eleven years to coach the Aztecs to a W in the NCAA tourney, you're only 50% right - or as they call it at UNLV, an "A." Mal, Billy, and DJ all played for three years BEFORE they had that run, with a measurable improvement from one season to the next.
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Post by TheSanDiegan on Oct 14, 2012 14:47:26 GMT -8
Meanwhile SDSU is fighting for tablescrap Big West recruits like 0star scrubs like Der'reyll Williams(Good job beating out Marquette, Pitt, and USC for that kid LMAO ) Like D.J. Gay, who was the most important player on our 34-3 Sweet 16 team that bitchslapped you rubles all over the court? Sure, well take more of those... Anyway, I fixed your ignorant post to more accurately reflect the caliber of schools that showed an interest in our newest Aztec.
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Post by danloc09 on Oct 14, 2012 14:50:30 GMT -8
Maybe I'll finally get the internet approval I've always dreamed of. Sorry to offend but my point simply was I didn't read anything beyond the ludicrous post by the Rebel fan and came to the identical conclusion about it that a few others did. Hence the identical characterization of it. Oh ya I wasnt trying to be a jerk I just thought it was funny everyone thought the same thing. I didn't disagree or anything.
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Post by azteccc on Oct 14, 2012 15:05:11 GMT -8
Well this thread turned funny... Bottom line lv-nevada fan - until you can beat us on the court, go back to your strip club job and we'll stop beating you down.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Oct 14, 2012 15:16:56 GMT -8
Is there a template that rebelnet has for the trolls they send over? It has been the same thing for years, and the same outcome, of course...
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Post by rem92 on Oct 14, 2012 15:57:32 GMT -8
Well this thread turned funny... Bottom line lv-nevada fan - until you can beat us on the court, go back to your strip club job and we'll stop beating you down. Well since you guys like to use recent history. I will use the most recent history which was a UNLV victory bye bye.
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Post by gator82 on Oct 14, 2012 16:07:42 GMT -8
Well this thread turned funny... Bottom line lv-nevada fan - until you can beat us on the court, go back to your strip club job and we'll stop beating you down. We actually beat you on the court last year. Or does that not count considering you guys have beat us 9 of the last 11. I guess the "living in the past" phrase is only reserved for referring to UNLV fans.
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Post by enolt08 on Oct 14, 2012 17:14:14 GMT -8
Well this thread turned funny... Bottom line lv-nevada fan - until you can beat us on the court, go back to your strip club job and we'll stop beating you down. We actually beat you on the court last year. Or does that not count considering you guys have beat us 9 of the last 11. I guess the "living in the past" phrase is only reserved for referring to UNLV fans. Let's look at another time-frame (this is fun!) In the MWC era: Reg Season titles: SDSU 3 UNM 3 Wyo 2 AFA 1 UNLV 1 MWC Tournament titles: SDSU 4 UNLV 3 UNM 2 CSU 1 Total Banners: SDSU 7 UNM 5 UNLV 4 Wyo 2 CSU 1 AFA 1
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Post by quickdraw on Oct 14, 2012 17:22:57 GMT -8
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