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Post by sleepy on Oct 2, 2012 13:33:48 GMT -8
... there's a LOT more interest in the direction of Aztec football right now by Aztec fans and alumni.
No way, no how, was there this level of interest since maybe 1992.
I think you can credit a number of factors: The upcoming move to the Big East; The realization that a window of opportunity has been opened -- and is also quickly closing -- to get "legit"; Looking on with envious eyes at the success of TCU and to a limited extent BYU and Utah -- as well as current and future conference mate Boise State -- and realizing what could have been and what still might be; The recent success of the football program; A valid belief that if a struggling, downright awful SDSU basketball program can turn the tide to become a national power, then there's no reason the football program can't.
I mean, just look at all the different threads on this site covering the trials and tribulations of Aztec football.
Whether that translates community-wide, I don't know. I suspect it does to a certain extent. What I do know for sure is that in seasons-past football would have just died a quiet death and we'd start to wonder about the possibilities of the basketball team as soon as the calendar turned to October.
Whatever side you're taking, I think it's a very healthy sign that everybody is paying attention.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2012 13:37:06 GMT -8
Yet so little talk about the upcoming Hawaii game. Most threads are just about Rocky or the defense, which of course go hand in hand.
We need a win this weekend. To beat the Warriors ass good would be particularly nice. We need to get positive momentum back.
A loss at home to U of H will get this board red hot.
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Post by untitled on Oct 2, 2012 14:07:51 GMT -8
i don't know, most of my friends (ages 23-25) are rabid men's bball fans but are pretty indifferent on the football team. I haven't been able to convince any of them to go to a game with me.
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Post by retiredaztec on Oct 2, 2012 14:10:35 GMT -8
... there's a LOT more interest in the direction of Aztec football right now by Aztec fans and alumni. No way, no how, was there this level of interest since maybe 1992. I think you can credit a number of factors: The upcoming move to the Big East; The realization that a window of opportunity has been opened -- and is also quickly closing -- to get "legit"; Looking on with envious eyes at the success of TCU and to a limited extent BYU and Utah -- as well as current and future conference mate Boise State -- and realizing what could have been and what still might be; The recent success of the football program; A valid belief that if a struggling, downright awful SDSU basketball program can turn the tide to become a national power, then there's no reason the football program can't.[/u]I mean, just look at all the different threads on this site covering the trials and tribulations of Aztec football. Whether that translates community-wide, I don't know. I suspect it does to a certain extent. What I do know for sure is that in seasons-past football would have just died a quiet death and we'd start to wonder about the possibilities of the basketball team as soon as the calendar turned to October. Whatever side you're taking, I think it's a very healthy sign that everybody is paying attention.[/quote] There was one reason for that. Simple, isn't it? And I'm asking you in all sincerity as I have no idea not living in San Diego. Outside of this board, how excited is the community in regards to State football moving to the BE?
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Post by aztecx on Oct 2, 2012 14:11:03 GMT -8
i don't know, most of my friends (ages 23-25) are rabid men's bball fans but are pretty indifferent on the football team. I haven't been able to convince any of them to go to a game with me. Yea everyone is a "rabid" basketball fan because we are winning. If we win in football, like we have in baskeball, SDSU will have more "rabid" fans
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Post by monty on Oct 2, 2012 14:11:48 GMT -8
there were lots of fire craft and Long I threads as well - across 5 aztectalks there has always been a pretty robust community . Attendance has been terrible this year. We'll see what the sky show and after does.
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Post by myownwords on Oct 2, 2012 14:27:39 GMT -8
... there's a LOT more interest in the direction of Aztec football right now by Aztec fans and alumni. No way, no how, was there this level of interest since maybe 1992. I think you can credit a number of factors: The upcoming move to the Big East; The realization that a window of opportunity has been opened -- and is also quickly closing -- to get "legit"; Looking on with envious eyes at the success of TCU and to a limited extent BYU and Utah -- as well as current and future conference mate Boise State -- and realizing what could have been and what still might be; The recent success of the football program; A valid belief that if a struggling, downright awful SDSU basketball program can turn the tide to become a national power, then there's no reason the football program can't. I mean, just look at all the different threads on this site covering the trials and tribulations of Aztec football. Whether that translates community-wide, I don't know. I suspect it does to a certain extent. What I do know for sure is that in seasons-past football would have just died a quiet death and we'd start to wonder about the possibilities of the basketball team as soon as the calendar turned to October. Whatever side you're taking, I think it's a very healthy sign that everybody is paying attention. I'm not sure where you are getting all this "everybody is paying attention" vibe. The attendance tells you about the vibe and it is decidedly NOT good. Two years ago, yes. Today? I'm afraid it's approaching the Chuck Long era.
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Post by retiredaztec on Oct 2, 2012 14:41:06 GMT -8
... there's a LOT more interest in the direction of Aztec football right now by Aztec fans and alumni. No way, no how, was there this level of interest since maybe 1992. I think you can credit a number of factors: The upcoming move to the Big East; The realization that a window of opportunity has been opened -- and is also quickly closing -- to get "legit"; Looking on with envious eyes at the success of TCU and to a limited extent BYU and Utah -- as well as current and future conference mate Boise State -- and realizing what could have been and what still might be; The recent success of the football program; A valid belief that if a struggling, downright awful SDSU basketball program can turn the tide to become a national power, then there's no reason the football program can't. I mean, just look at all the different threads on this site covering the trials and tribulations of Aztec football. Whether that translates community-wide, I don't know. I suspect it does to a certain extent. What I do know for sure is that in seasons-past football would have just died a quiet death and we'd start to wonder about the possibilities of the basketball team as soon as the calendar turned to October. Whatever side you're taking, I think it's a very healthy sign that everybody is paying attention. I'm not sure where you are getting all this "everybody is paying attention" vibe. The attendance tells you about the vibe and it is decidedly NOT good. Two years ago, yes. Today? I'm afraid it's approaching the Chuck Long era. Regarding the question I posed earlier to Sleepy, and to your post, it does not seem ticket sales have spiked nor has interest in season ticket sales, nor has a run on Aztec football gear since the announcement of the conference move. What I AM suspecting, short of joining the SEC, it wouldn't matter to the local SD football fan if the team joined the Avocado League as long as equated to wins. And therein lies the rub.
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Post by sleepy on Oct 2, 2012 14:45:42 GMT -8
... there's a LOT more interest in the direction of Aztec football right now by Aztec fans and alumni. No way, no how, was there this level of interest since maybe 1992. I think you can credit a number of factors: The upcoming move to the Big East; The realization that a window of opportunity has been opened -- and is also quickly closing -- to get "legit"; Looking on with envious eyes at the success of TCU and to a limited extent BYU and Utah -- as well as current and future conference mate Boise State -- and realizing what could have been and what still might be; The recent success of the football program; A valid belief that if a struggling, downright awful SDSU basketball program can turn the tide to become a national power, then there's no reason the football program can't. I mean, just look at all the different threads on this site covering the trials and tribulations of Aztec football. Whether that translates community-wide, I don't know. I suspect it does to a certain extent. What I do know for sure is that in seasons-past football would have just died a quiet death and we'd start to wonder about the possibilities of the basketball team as soon as the calendar turned to October. Whatever side you're taking, I think it's a very healthy sign that everybody is paying attention. I'm not sure where you are getting all this "everybody is paying attention" vibe. The attendance tells you about the vibe and it is decidedly NOT good. Two years ago, yes. Today? I'm afraid it's approaching the Chuck Long era. Again, the amount of howling going on tells you a lot. From 1993 through Hoke's arrival, the vibe on 10/1 was "Aztec Losing Football Season? Yeah. So?" Now a much greater segment of the San Diego sports fanbase sees a higher ceiling based on the last two bowl seasons and the BE move, and is aware we can be so much more.
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Post by badfish on Oct 2, 2012 14:46:14 GMT -8
i don't know, most of my friends (ages 23-25) are rabid men's bball fans but are pretty indifferent on the football team. I haven't been able to convince any of them to go to a game with me. I'm 22 and I have the same problem. My buddies (aztecs and not) go to the games to drink but could care less who wins.
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Post by monty on Oct 2, 2012 14:49:45 GMT -8
Attendance average is '26,576' (so what' that really, 16-7k?) No game last year had that low of attendance for a single game (closest had just shy of 2k more). The 3 lowest attended games last year had an average attendance of over 30k. Overall attendance was 40k last year.
So, attendance is already way down, no way the sky show does what it did last year, and the stadium has felt like a morgue.
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Post by myownwords on Oct 2, 2012 14:50:00 GMT -8
I'm not sure where you are getting all this "everybody is paying attention" vibe. The attendance tells you about the vibe and it is decidedly NOT good. Two years ago, yes. Today? I'm afraid it's approaching the Chuck Long era. Regarding the question I posed earlier to Sleepy, and to your post, it does not seem ticket sales have spiked nor has interest in season ticket sales, nor has a run on Aztec football gear since the announcement of the conference move. What I AM suspecting, short of joining the SEC, it wouldn't matter to the local SD football fan if the team joined the Avocado League as long as equated to wins. And therein lies the rub. If you can't win, it matters little what league or conference you're in---attendance will suffer.
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Post by badfish on Oct 2, 2012 14:50:56 GMT -8
The SJSU fans were louder than we were... and yes, I've only heard 1 commercial about sky show, WTF
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Post by matteosandiego on Oct 2, 2012 15:01:08 GMT -8
Momentum is a scary thing. Scary Good or it could be Scary Scary bad.
How this team and coaches finish from this point on in the season can very well determine how this program's momentum will go for the next couple of years.
Either SDSU finishes strong, with a winning record and possible bowl berth or they F up what Brady Hoke did when he resuscitated this program back to life 3 years ago.
SDSU fans are fickle. Hoke got our attention, but Rocky could easily F it up if we don't finish strong! Message to Rocky: "Her life is in your hands dude."
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Post by jdgaucho on Oct 2, 2012 15:50:52 GMT -8
Then you have the alternative where everything has stagnated, there's no vision and the administration does not care www.idahostatesman.com/2012/10/02/2295311/both-teams-needa-league-home-and.htmlI highly doubt Jim Sterk or anyone else who matters would allow the same thing to happen to football like it has at Idaho. Your faculty and athletic department actually cares - at least that's how it seems to me.
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Post by bschmurda on Oct 2, 2012 17:33:33 GMT -8
The SJSU fans were louder than we were... and yes, I've only heard 1 commercial about sky show, WTF 2 for me
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Post by junior on Oct 2, 2012 17:36:44 GMT -8
Zero here. Haven't heard word one. Nothing. Maybe since I haven't listened to "136 KGB" since the Hoover Cardinal mascot became the KGB Chicken, I've missed hearing all the hoopla.
Maybe.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2012 18:43:22 GMT -8
The chuck long news conferences towards the end were about 3 minutes long.
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Post by sdsu2000 on Oct 2, 2012 18:55:04 GMT -8
Sometimes people just throw out knee jerk reactions when we lose but I think there's been a growing sense from the day he was given the job that he's not the guy. There were some that weren't a fan of the hiring and that number keeps growing. I think we'll see that number keep growing and he'll be out after the 2013 season.
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Post by myownwords on Oct 2, 2012 19:18:39 GMT -8
Sometimes people just throw out knee jerk reactions when we lose but I think there's been a growing sense from the day he was given the job that he's not the guy. There were some that weren't a fan of the hiring and that number keeps growing. I think we'll see that number keep growing and he'll be out after the 2013 season. The problem is not going away. In my opinion Rocky's creating and exponential curve of disaster. Each month his tenure is allowed to persist, doubles the time needed to dig out. If he were to leave in two weeks, a new coach might actually improve our recruiting for this year and put us back on the upswing again. If we wait another year, we'll lose this year's and next year's recruiting AND take a new coach several years to come back to where we were two years ago.
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