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Post by aztec70 on Sept 3, 2012 16:50:44 GMT -8
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Post by aztecwin on Sept 4, 2012 10:49:40 GMT -8
It is an opinion piece. Some of it does ring true. You do want to pay your workers a fair or even more than fair wage. You want that worker to be located in a business friendly enviornment. I suggest that everyone go see the Film based on a New York Times Bestseller about President Barack Obama, by Dinesh D'Souza. 2016 goes into the issue in some depth including the goals of obama and just how those goals align with the good of the country. You will see lots about this very issue and much more.
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Sept 4, 2012 14:09:01 GMT -8
Great article though his opinion goes against everything most, if not all, Republicans stand for. Republicans want to concentrate all wealth at the top thereby eliminating the middle (consumer) class.
I thought the comments regarding Germany were especially relevant.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Sept 5, 2012 10:09:14 GMT -8
Great article though his opinion goes against everything most, if not all, Republicans stand for. Republicans want to concentrate all wealth at the top thereby eliminating the middle (consumer) class. I thought the comments regarding Germany were especially relevant. Would you care to link us to any source, any source at all, quoting any Republican elected official or candidate for office who has stated a desire to concentrate wealth at the top and destroy the middle class? Go ahead, make my day and support your claim with evidence that goes beyond your personal opinion. As a matter of fact, GOP luminaries have repeatedly stated their desire to create conditions that encourage and enable individuals to rise economically through their own efforts. You may believe that the policies advocated by those Republican officials and candidates will not work; fine, that's a legitimate response and you may or may not be correct in making it. What is not legitimate is to charge that Republicans explicitly seek the impoverishment of the greater part of the U.S. population. What's next? Are you going to announce that Republicans want to deep fry baby animals? There is as much evidence supporting that concept as where is to support your charges against Republicans. AzWm |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Sept 5, 2012 10:19:58 GMT -8
I noted one interesting line in this NYT opinion piece. The writer correctly calls what we have had from the end of the Great Recession in 2009 until the present day a jobless recovery.
In fact, this recovery is the worst of all the recoveries that have followed the nine post WWII recessions. (It is important to recall that some of those recessions, such as mid-70s and early '80s, were very, very bad ones.) Is that all the fault of the current President? No. I am not one who blames him for all our troubles. I do blame him for making some terrible decisions, especially those that have hindered our exploitation of energy resources here at home. (Oh, yes, by "at home" I mean in our domestic waters as well as on land.)
AzWm
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Sept 5, 2012 12:45:33 GMT -8
Great article though his opinion goes against everything most, if not all, Republicans stand for. Republicans want to concentrate all wealth at the top thereby eliminating the middle (consumer) class. I thought the comments regarding Germany were especially relevant. Would you care to link us to any source, any source at all, quoting any Republican elected official or candidate for office who has stated a desire to concentrate wealth at the top and destroy the middle class? Go ahead, make my day and support your claim with evidence that goes beyond your personal opinion. As a matter of fact, GOP luminaries have repeatedly stated their desire to create conditions that encourage and enable individuals to rise economically through their own efforts. You may believe that the policies advocated by those Republican officials and candidates will not work; fine, that's a legitimate response and you may or may not be correct in making it. What is not legitimate is to charge that Republicans explicitly seek the impoverishment of the greater part of the U.S. population. What's next? Are you going to announce that Republicans want to deep fry baby animals? There is as much evidence supporting that concept as where is to support your charges against Republicans. AzWm Let's see. 1. Republicans want to eliminate the capital gains tax altogether. ZERO tax on capital gains. 2. Republicans want to eliminate all taxes on dividends. 3. Republicans want to eliminate all estate taxes. 4. Republicans want to reduce the top tax rate by 10 - 15 points while making sure "everyone has some skin in the game". 5. Republicans want to pay for the above by reducing or eliminating many tax deductions or credits (mortgage, etc.) that primarily benefit the middle class. 6. Republicans believe in a "Trickle Down" economic policy. The wealthy get it first and then, hopefully, they will buy stuff. |
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Post by aztecwin on Sept 5, 2012 13:07:31 GMT -8
Would you care to link us to any source, any source at all, quoting any Republican elected official or candidate for office who has stated a desire to concentrate wealth at the top and destroy the middle class? Go ahead, make my day and support your claim with evidence that goes beyond your personal opinion. As a matter of fact, GOP luminaries have repeatedly stated their desire to create conditions that encourage and enable individuals to rise economically through their own efforts. You may believe that the policies advocated by those Republican officials and candidates will not work; fine, that's a legitimate response and you may or may not be correct in making it. What is not legitimate is to charge that Republicans explicitly seek the impoverishment of the greater part of the U.S. population. What's next? Are you going to announce that Republicans want to deep fry baby animals? There is as much evidence supporting that concept as where is to support your charges against Republicans. AzWm Let's see. 1. Republicans want to eliminate the capital gains tax altogether. ZERO tax on capital gains. 2. Republicans want to eliminate all taxes on dividends. 3. Republicans want to eliminate all estate taxes. 4. Republicans want to reduce the top tax rate by 10 - 15 points while making sure "everyone has some skin in the game". 5. Republicans want to pay for the above by reducing or eliminating many tax deductions or credits (mortgage, etc.) that primarily benefit the middle class. 6. Republicans believe in a "Trickle Down" economic policy. The wealthy get it first and then, hopefully, they will buy stuff. Did you forget the link? |
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Post by aztec70 on Sept 5, 2012 13:27:36 GMT -8
Great article though his opinion goes against everything most, if not all, Republicans stand for. Republicans want to concentrate all wealth at the top thereby eliminating the middle (consumer) class. I thought the comments regarding Germany were especially relevant. Would you care to link us to any source, any source at all, quoting any Republican elected official or candidate for office who has stated a desire to concentrate wealth at the top and destroy the middle class? Go ahead, make my day and support your claim with evidence that goes beyond your personal opinion. As a matter of fact, GOP luminaries have repeatedly stated their desire to create conditions that encourage and enable individuals to rise economically through their own efforts. You may believe that the policies advocated by those Republican officials and candidates will not work; fine, that's a legitimate response and you may or may not be correct in making it. What is not legitimate is to charge that Republicans explicitly seek the impoverishment of the greater part of the U.S. population. What's next? Are you going to announce that Republicans want to deep fry baby animals? There is as much evidence supporting that concept as where is to support your charges against Republicans. AzWm No one in their right mind would say that out loud, William. You have to look to the results of their policys to see it. The increasing wealth in a small minority, the stagnation of middle class income, the increase in the number of those in poverty. You need to open your eyes as well as your mind, William. |
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Post by aztecwin on Sept 5, 2012 16:52:52 GMT -8
Would you care to link us to any source, any source at all, quoting any Republican elected official or candidate for office who has stated a desire to concentrate wealth at the top and destroy the middle class? Go ahead, make my day and support your claim with evidence that goes beyond your personal opinion. As a matter of fact, GOP luminaries have repeatedly stated their desire to create conditions that encourage and enable individuals to rise economically through their own efforts. You may believe that the policies advocated by those Republican officials and candidates will not work; fine, that's a legitimate response and you may or may not be correct in making it. What is not legitimate is to charge that Republicans explicitly seek the impoverishment of the greater part of the U.S. population. What's next? Are you going to announce that Republicans want to deep fry baby animals? There is as much evidence supporting that concept as where is to support your charges against Republicans. AzWm No one in their right mind would say that out loud, William. You have to look to the results of their policys to see it. The increasing wealth in a small minority, the stagnation of middle class income, the increase in the number of those in poverty. You need to open your eyes as well as your mind, William. I am sure you are talking about the obama administration. I suggest you collaborate with Always to find a link to some concrete evidence of what you are saying. |
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Post by aztec70 on Sept 5, 2012 17:20:05 GMT -8
No one in their right mind would say that out loud, William. You have to look to the results of their policys to see it. The increasing wealth in a small minority, the stagnation of middle class income, the increase in the number of those in poverty. You need to open your eyes as well as your mind, William. I am sure you are talking about the obama administration. I suggest you collaborate with Always to find a link to some concrete evidence of what you are saying. I suggest you open your eyes and your mind about the future. |
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Post by aztecwin on Sept 6, 2012 10:55:47 GMT -8
I am sure you are talking about the obama administration. I suggest you collaborate with Always to find a link to some concrete evidence of what you are saying. I suggest you open your eyes and your mind about the future. I see, just like Always, you can't do it. The first three items on the list by Always are things I agree with and can make very good cases for and have done so in the past. The rest is kind of iffy and I still want you two to find the link. |
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Sept 6, 2012 12:45:36 GMT -8
Let's see. 1. Republicans want to eliminate the capital gains tax altogether. ZERO tax on capital gains. 2. Republicans want to eliminate all taxes on dividends. 3. Republicans want to eliminate all estate taxes. 4. Republicans want to reduce the top tax rate by 10 - 15 points while making sure "everyone has some skin in the game". 5. Republicans want to pay for the above by reducing or eliminating many tax deductions or credits (mortgage, etc.) that primarily benefit the middle class. 6. Republicans believe in a "Trickle Down" economic policy. The wealthy get it first and then, hopefully, they will buy stuff. Did you forget the link? I don't have to link to the truth. EVERY tax point is in Ryan's plan. Can't refute that can you?  |
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Post by aztecwin on Sept 6, 2012 14:26:51 GMT -8
I don't have to link to the truth. EVERY tax point is in Ryan's plan. Can't refute that can you? If it is true, where is the link? If you can find it in Romney's plan,tell me what is wrong with each item. Please enlist Always help. |
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Sept 6, 2012 16:00:09 GMT -8
I don't have to link to the truth. EVERY tax point is in Ryan's plan. Can't refute that can you? If it is true, where is the link? If you can find it in Romney's plan,tell me what is wrong with each item. Please enlist Always help. There is nothing wrong with each item as long as you want to further concentrate this nations wealth into the top one percent of the population. Now if you prefer a strong middle class you would have a problem with them. |
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Post by aztecwin on Sept 7, 2012 9:04:39 GMT -8
If it is true, where is the link? If you can find it in Romney's plan,tell me what is wrong with each item. Please enlist Always help. There is nothing wrong with each item as long as you want to further concentrate this nations wealth into the top one percent of the population. Now if you prefer a strong middle class you would have a problem with them. What is your theory on that? Creating jobs is bad for people? You sound just like obama in wanting to destroy the capital that can build jobs and businesses when we get tax rates and regulations reasonable in this country. Until then, I hope you feel good about obama and he Dems trying to bring us down to third world status rather than dragging the rest of the world up with us. You guys have had a little too much obama KoolAid and want to destroy wealth. Where is your link? |
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Post by aztec70 on Sept 7, 2012 9:55:53 GMT -8
As you know yourself, aztecwin, jobs are created by small business. Small business owners pay their income taxes on their profit at ordinary rates.
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Post by aztecwin on Sept 7, 2012 12:32:03 GMT -8
As you know yourself, aztecwin, jobs are created by small business. Small business owners pay their income taxes on their profit at ordinary rates. Of course the majority of jobs are with small companies. How they pay taxes depends on how they are organized. |
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