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Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 22, 2012 12:10:04 GMT -8
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Post by tuff on Aug 25, 2012 8:05:59 GMT -8
And he stated he wanted to use this as a model for future bailouts. Government should never be in the business to be in business. Period.
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Post by aztecwin on Aug 25, 2012 9:14:59 GMT -8
I get a sinking feeling every time that I think about this whole GM issue. How bond holders, stock holders and the tax payers all got taken to the cleaners to benefit unions and now GM is about to go under again.
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Post by JOCAZTEC on Aug 26, 2012 7:49:24 GMT -8
The "cars" government motors is producing are so ugly. But, of course, that is one way to save gas mileage. You drive an ugly car and you really don't want to drive it much. Ever notice how your friends always seem to opt out of taking your car? What friends you do have, always want to ride in your other friend's BMW 500i. It's a cool looking, high powered car...
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Post by tuff on Aug 26, 2012 7:59:57 GMT -8
The problem with the American car manufacturers is that their warranties are generally only 36,000 miles. If they really want to make a dent, make them 100,000 powertrain and 60,000 for all else. I'm getting a KIA really because of the warranty(and price of course).
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Post by JOCAZTEC on Aug 26, 2012 16:31:32 GMT -8
"kia"? Say it don't stand for, "know it all"??
Pleeaasee.
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Post by charlesnwarren on Aug 30, 2012 16:04:37 GMT -8
Kia? You want a jap car. Fine. I'll stick with my Ford.
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Post by aztecwin on Aug 30, 2012 16:40:51 GMT -8
Kia? You want a jap car. Fine. I'll stick with my Ford. KIA is not Japanese! I understand the sentiment, but I will buy American when both the quality is up and the government stops subsidizing. I know Ford was not part of that, but they still do not build a car that can touch my Japanese made car. The word "Jap" is as offensive to me as any such word about any minority. (except A Rabs)  |
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Aug 31, 2012 12:12:50 GMT -8
Kia? You want a jap car. Fine. I'll stick with my Ford. KIA is not Japanese! I understand the sentiment, but I will buy American when both the quality is up and the government stops subsidizing. I know Ford was not part of that, but they still do not build a car that can touch my Japanese made car. The word "Jap" is as offensive to me as any such word about any minority. (except A Rabs) I see your patriotism stops at your pocketbook. |
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Post by aztecwin on Aug 31, 2012 15:45:53 GMT -8
KIA is not Japanese! I understand the sentiment, but I will buy American when both the quality is up and the government stops subsidizing. I know Ford was not part of that, but they still do not build a car that can touch my Japanese made car. The word "Jap" is as offensive to me as any such word about any minority. (except A Rabs) I see your patriotism stops at your pocketbook. Get your head out! I never bought a Kaiser nor a Yugo either. It is about common sense, a concept that seems to be beyond you. |
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Post by tuff on Sept 3, 2012 9:51:14 GMT -8
I get a sinking feeling every time that I think about this whole GM issue. How bond holders, stock holders and the tax payers all got taken to the cleaners to benefit unions and now GM is about to go under again. Yep. $25 Billion, where much of it went to pay off auto unions that contributrd heavily to barry while stealing bondholders entire investment. He also let the pensions of non-unionautoworkers go bankrupt. Yet, where's the media on this??? |
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Post by aztec70 on Sept 3, 2012 18:53:06 GMT -8
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Post by aztecwin on Sept 4, 2012 10:40:52 GMT -8
Some of it is accounting gimmicks according to the link. I took a look at their Balance Sheet. I don't think I will be buying that stock nor do I hold much hope in them getting to the point they can pay back the taxpayers. |
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