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Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 17, 2012 13:42:27 GMT -8
As a Californian who grew up here in the 40s and 50s, reading this piece is very,. very sad. The one unasked (but hinted at) question here is this; With things going from bad to worse in the Golden State, why do voters keep reelecting the same batch of usual suspects? www.newgeography.com/content/003024-is-california-new-detroitAzWm |
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Post by aztecwin on Aug 17, 2012 15:54:43 GMT -8
There are several different ideas or facts in that piece that should make every one of us here in California re-think who we want to lead us. Every time you see a Allied Van Line Truck or a U-Haul trailer heading East to Texas, Florida or North Carolina we should be reminded that the same old bunch of Democrats are sent back to preside over the decay of what should be a great economy.
Anyone who has voted for Gov Brown or any Democrat in Sacramento is asked to explain why. Just what hope does California have with the same tired leadership (or lack of) in Sacramento?
Are you thinking of voting for Filner for Mayor? If so, explain why! Explain why you prefer a future like Vallejo or Stockton rather than like Austin or Durham.
I can't even fathom why we still have Barbara Boxer representing us in Washington rather than a proven business smart person like Carly Fiorina.
We have a mess on our hands and no clue as to how to try to dig out. Please try to defend you votes or start thinking about how we might have a brighter future. For the future of our Grandchildren, we need to smarten up.
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Post by tuff on Aug 17, 2012 16:58:33 GMT -8
Just look at the overall leadership in these two places, and other beat down areas in the country. Hello!!
What is the old phrase? As California goes so does the rest of the country.
Thank you Mr. Brown et al for 50 years of leadership.
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Post by aztecmusician on Aug 22, 2012 10:06:03 GMT -8
California is a mess, liberalism has failed and succeeded at the same time.
It has failed to provide economic stability or prosperity for the People of California. At the same time it's tactics of promising free stuff, legalizing weed and granting amnesty to illegal aliens errrrrrr undocumented workers has succeeded in keeping inept California Democrat Politicians such as Boxer, Feinstein and "moonbeam" Brown in political power. I still can't believe Meg Whitman lost her election race to the accusations of a former employee. The unbalanced budget over the past ten years is inexcusable.
Unfortunately I must come to the conclusion that we The People of California have the corrupt failed politicians we deserve.
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Aug 22, 2012 10:16:05 GMT -8
California is a mess, liberalism has failed and succeeded at the same time. It has failed to provide economic stability or prosperity for the People of California. At the same time it's tactics of promising free stuff, legalizing weed and granting amnesty to illegal aliens errrrrrr undocumented workers has succeeded in keeping inept California Democrat Politicians such as Boxer, Feinstein and "moonbeam" Brown in political power. I still can't believe Meg Whitman lost her election race to the accusations of a former employee. The unbalanced budget over the past ten years is inexcusable. Unfortunately I must come to the conclusion that we The People of California have the corrupt failed politicians we deserve. The beginning of the end started with prop-13. That was when many expenses which were paid for at the local level were switched to the state level. |
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Post by aztec70 on Aug 22, 2012 10:23:31 GMT -8
Everything was going well until Reagan was elected.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 22, 2012 12:12:26 GMT -8
Everything was going well until Reagan was elected. Then how do you explain the dire straits in which states long controlled by Democrats find themselves in? AzWm |
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Post by aztec70 on Aug 22, 2012 12:30:06 GMT -8
Everything was going well until Reagan was elected. Then how do you explain the dire straits in which states long controlled by Democrats find themselves in? AzWm Not pertinent. The permanent damage has been done by Republicans. We Democrats are just trying to straighten out the mess conservatives make. A constant task for us. |
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Post by tuff on Aug 22, 2012 12:37:47 GMT -8
Yeah. Detroit, Cleveland and California have been real bastions for republicans for the last 50 years. Who has predominantly been in control politically in these three places after all? There has to be some statistics buffs on here who could answer this.
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Post by aztecwin on Aug 22, 2012 12:38:40 GMT -8
California is a mess, liberalism has failed and succeeded at the same time. It has failed to provide economic stability or prosperity for the People of California. At the same time it's tactics of promising free stuff, legalizing weed and granting amnesty to illegal aliens errrrrrr undocumented workers has succeeded in keeping inept California Democrat Politicians such as Boxer, Feinstein and "moonbeam" Brown in political power. I still can't believe Meg Whitman lost her election race to the accusations of a former employee. The unbalanced budget over the past ten years is inexcusable. Unfortunately I must come to the conclusion that we The People of California have the corrupt failed politicians we deserve. The beginning of the end started with prop-13. That was when many expenses which were paid for at the local level were switched to the state level. What part of keeping spending under control do you not understand? |
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Post by Trujillos & Beer on Aug 22, 2012 12:39:42 GMT -8
Everything was going well until Reagan was elected. Then how do you explain the dire straits in which states long controlled by Democrats find themselves in? AzWm Blue states typically have larger populations, higher levels of education which equates to higher salaries, and higher median home prices. A five point increase in unemployment causes a much bigger problem in CA than it does in MS. Same thing goes for the effects of a housing bust. The disparity in the impact on revenue is enormous. For that same reason blue states will generally be better off in good times. ..Sent from my Samsung GS3.. |
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Post by aztecwin on Aug 22, 2012 12:42:26 GMT -8
Then how do you explain the dire straits in which states long controlled by Democrats find themselves in? AzWm Not pertinent. The permanent damage has been done by Republicans. We Democrats are just trying to straighten out the mess conservatives make. A constant task for us. I would explain to you in detail how this all works, but if you can't even fill out =Bob's 1040EZ, what chance would you have of understanding it all? California is so screwed up that we would have to change to a cash based spending program rather than this wild guess accrual mess we are in. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 22, 2012 13:17:30 GMT -8
Then how do you explain the dire straits in which states long controlled by Democrats find themselves in? AzWm Not pertinent. The permanent damage has been done by Republicans. We Democrats are just trying to straighten out the mess conservatives make. A constant task for us. Well, thanks for clearing that up. I forgot that Republicans never do anything right and Democrats never make mistakes. How come I couldn't see that? ;D AzWm |
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Post by aztec70 on Aug 22, 2012 13:40:23 GMT -8
Not pertinent. The permanent damage has been done by Republicans. We Democrats are just trying to straighten out the mess conservatives make. A constant task for us. Well, thanks for clearing that up. I forgot that Republicans never do anything right and Democrats never make mistakes. How come I couldn't see that? ;D AzWm I have no idea why not. I have been telling you for years!  |
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Aug 22, 2012 15:46:11 GMT -8
The beginning of the end started with prop-13. That was when many expenses which were paid for at the local level were switched to the state level. What part of keeping spending under control do you not understand? We've been over this in other threads and I'm not going to re-argue it here. |
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Aug 22, 2012 15:55:54 GMT -8
Are you thinking of voting for Filner for Mayor? If so, explain why! I wouldn't vote for Demaio for mayor if you put a gun to the back of my head. I'm not real crazy about Filner but since Nathan Fletcher is not running I'll vote for Filner. I really cannot say that I've hated many people in my life. Demaio is one of them. Demaio is an elitist who could care less about the American worker. Demaio only cares about Demaio. As an example; we had a "water summit" meeting in Rancho Bernardo last night. Everyone was invited. Carl Demaio (our councilman who lives in RB) didn't show up. Neither did anyone from his office. He could care less. |
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Post by aztecwin on Aug 22, 2012 16:43:56 GMT -8
Are you thinking of voting for Filner for Mayor? If so, explain why! I wouldn't vote for Demaio for mayor if you put a gun to the back of my head. I'm not real crazy about Filner but since Nathan Fletcher is not running I'll vote for Filner. I really cannot say that I've hated many people in my life. Demaio is one of them. Demaio is an elitist who could care less about the American worker. Demaio only cares about Demaio. As an example; we had a "water summit" meeting in Rancho Bernardo last night. Everyone was invited. Carl Demaio (our councilman who lives in RB) didn't show up. Neither did anyone from his office. He could care less. I would never vote for Filner for many reasons, but your position is one I can understand. What has this city got itself into? In some ways I am glad I live in an unincorporated part of the County. |
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