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Post by uncledougy on Aug 12, 2012 11:11:27 GMT -8
Dick Weiss might be a bit of a homer, but says this: "We've got little idea what type of TV the deal the Big East will be able to net once the conference is officially on the market. But Dick Weiss of the New York Daily News says 'sources' claim NBC Sports may be willing to go in for up to $14 million for basketball and football-playing members."Not new, but the more I see this, the more i likey... Also says: "The other thing to keep in mind is that these types of opportunities aren't available all the time for networks. There are a very small amount of major college football conferences out there and because these deals last several years, missing the boat now could mean sitting on the sidelines for a while."www.cardiachill.com/2012/8/10/3224027/big-east-tv-media-deal-negotiations-nbc-sports-espn-pittsburgh-panthers-syracuse-acc-expansion |
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Post by aztecfankrishnan on Aug 12, 2012 12:33:29 GMT -8
It makes sense for NBC to pay close to what the ACC got in order to promote the prestige and stability of the league. Particularly if the Saturday all-day scheduling helps boost its Notre Dame ratings.
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Post by tonatiuh on Aug 12, 2012 13:24:01 GMT -8
I look at it that no matter who wins the TV contract with the BE, all schools involved will get a very good payday if not a tremendous one.
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Post by aztech on Aug 12, 2012 13:38:24 GMT -8
I look at it that no matter who wins the TV contract with the BE, all schools involved will get a very good payday if not a tremendous one. ...despite the lowball tactics ESPiN and CBS are trying to pull to lower the bid. Either they're posturing to get people to think they're going to lowball or are really going to when submitting their bid. You never know with those sneaky media bastards. |
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Post by therealeman on Aug 12, 2012 14:22:06 GMT -8
BE hires consultants for TV deal Check it |
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Post by sdsuaztecs on Aug 12, 2012 17:11:14 GMT -8
I know it's implausible and improbable but wouldn't it be sumthin' if the BEast got more dough than the ACC? The Orange and Panthers would have some major egg on their faces if that were to happen.
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Post by monty on Aug 12, 2012 17:13:13 GMT -8
I know it's implausible and improbable but wouldn't it be sumthin' if the BEast got more dough than the ACC? The Orange and Panthers would have some major egg on their faces if that were to happen. The ACC deal is really backloaded - if the Big East gets all sports around 13, they'll be even, maybe even a little ahead - ACC deal doesn't hit 17 until 202_ something, (22?) |
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Post by myownwords on Aug 12, 2012 18:31:21 GMT -8
I know it's implausible and improbable but wouldn't it be sumthin' if the BEast got more dough than the ACC? The Orange and Panthers would have some major egg on their faces if that were to happen. I think it's VERY possible. Look at the crazy price paid for the Dodgers and Padres. And how about this: The Dodgers in the #1 or # 2 TV market. The Padres, #28? And yet they got almost 1/2 of the Dodgers sale price. Tells you something about TV's hunger for NON-DVR-able product. The Big East is one of the few, if not only, major conference up for "grabs" for the foreseeable future. |
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Post by Gilbert on Aug 12, 2012 19:07:18 GMT -8
I know it's implausible and improbable but wouldn't it be sumthin' if the BEast got more dough than the ACC? The Orange and Panthers would have some major egg on their faces if that were to happen. I think it's VERY possible. Look at the crazy price paid for the Dodgers and Padres. And how about this: The Dodgers in the #1 or # 2 TV market. The Padres, #28? And yet they got almost 1/2 of the Dodgers sale price. Tells you something about TV's hunger for NON-DVR-able product. The Big East is one of the few, if not only, major conference up for "grabs" for the foreseeable future. I tend to agree. We may have very good timing for once in our Aztec lives! |
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Post by sdsuaztecs on Aug 12, 2012 19:56:12 GMT -8
MOW,
I agree with you. If I'm NBC I want to "lockdown" the BEast deal for as along as I can meaning at least 10 years and preferrably 20 or 30 years. In effect, NBC would become the "owner" of the BEast for that period of time. My guess is there are serious, really serious discussions going on at ESPN right now knowing that NBC has the potential to blow ESPN out of the water.
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Post by 94sdsu on Aug 12, 2012 20:35:44 GMT -8
I don't think ESPN cares. Their suggestion to the ACC to steal the Orange and Panthers show they don't care about the Big East. They're trying to get the bball teams to leave and form their own conference and then they'll sign the bball only conference to a big tv contract while they convince the ACC to take UConn and maybe Cincy. Then Louisville to the Big 12 in all sports and ESPN has everybody they care about wrapped up.
However, NBC could stop this from happening if they come in with the big dollars we've been hearing recently.
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Post by therealeman on Aug 12, 2012 21:15:44 GMT -8
I agree that ESPN is not invested in the Big East anymore. It'll come down to how much they value BE basketball, and without the two darlings, Pitt and Cuse, plus the other defection (and potential future defections) who knows? They'll make an offer but it won't be one that NBC or someone else won't be able to match and outbid. They'll walk away at least making it look like they "offered." They already control media rights for the "Big 5" conferences anyway.
Plus, come September, they'll be gearing up to bid for the rights to the four team BCS playoff games, which could net up to $500 million per year when it's all said and done, according to some.
That's right, those three games a year could be worth upwards of $5 billion for the life of the contract, which is expected to be a 10/12 year deal. Because ESPN already owns all current BCS Bowl media rights, they'll have an exclusive bidding window, and you can bet they will come ready with their checkbooks on that day.
And let's not forget that the SEC is already talking about redoing their deal with CBS/ESPN after the additions of Mizzou and A&M.
NBC would be a great place for us; miles ahead of anywhere we've ever been.
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Post by beefeater on Aug 12, 2012 23:51:08 GMT -8
I'm curious to know what you guys would consider a satisfactory number for your football-only membership.
IIRC, the first estimate that got publicity was $8.5M. Then, things got dicey when a $4M estimate got some publicity. Now, we are hearing $10M. Kind of a roller coaster, is it not?
If SDSU signed on with $8.5M in mind, then I would think that anything near there or above would be considered a win. Would you guys still be happy if it turned out to be, say $6M?
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Post by 78aztec82 on Aug 13, 2012 1:55:24 GMT -8
I'm curious to know what you guys would consider a satisfactory number for your football-only membership. IIRC, the first estimate that got publicity was $8.5M. Then, things got dicey when a $4M estimate got some publicity. Now, we are hearing $10M. Kind of a roller coaster, is it not? If SDSU signed on with $8.5M in mind, then I would think that anything near there or above would be considered a win. Would you guys still be happy if it turned out to be, say $6M? SDSUs original estimate was $6M so that was our assumption when we made the initial agreement. Anything above that is gravy. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards |
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Post by myownwords on Aug 13, 2012 5:11:20 GMT -8
I'm curious to know what you guys would consider a satisfactory number for your football-only membership. IIRC, the first estimate that got publicity was $8.5M. Then, things got dicey when a $4M estimate got some publicity. Now, we are hearing $10M. Kind of a roller coaster, is it not? If SDSU signed on with $8.5M in mind, then I would think that anything near there or above would be considered a win. Would you guys still be happy if it turned out to be, say $6M? SDSUs original estimate was $6M so that was our assumption when we made the initial agreement. Anything above that is gravy. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards Exactly! |
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Post by aztecfankrishnan on Aug 13, 2012 9:48:11 GMT -8
I'm curious to know what you guys would consider a satisfactory number for your football-only membership. IIRC, the first estimate that got publicity was $8.5M. Then, things got dicey when a $4M estimate got some publicity. Now, we are hearing $10M. Kind of a roller coaster, is it not? If SDSU signed on with $8.5M in mind, then I would think that anything near there or above would be considered a win. Would you guys still be happy if it turned out to be, say $6M? IMO anything over $5 Mill a year would be satisfactory. |
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Post by dshawfan on Aug 13, 2012 10:02:45 GMT -8
BE hires consultants for TV deal Check it Here is some background info on each consultant courtesy of a poster on the BE board: Chris Bevilacqua owns the Bevilacqua Media Company. He helped create CSTV (now CBSSports, of course), which was later sold to CBS for $325 million. Also, he was the Global Director of Negotiations for Nike sports media in the 90s, so he has the right skills. It probably doesn't hurt that he also worked for NBC in marketing during the '98 Olympics. Alan Gold is a partner with Evolution Media Capital (EMC), the other half of the Big East's new negotiating team. EMC is an investment bank and advisory firm. Creative Artists Agency (CAA) owns a large chunk of EMC, and represents LeBron James and Derek Jeter. Also, CAA/EMC helps produce "American Idol." Alan Gold specializes in Sports Media for EMC. Article on EMC and the PAC 12 deal articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/20/business/la-fi-ct-caa-evolution-media-20120320 |
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Post by Dave L on Aug 13, 2012 10:26:18 GMT -8
BE hires consultants for TV deal Check it Here is some background info on each consultant courtesy of a poster on the BE board: Chris Bevilacqua owns the Bevilacqua Media Company. He helped create CSTV (now CBSSports, of course), which was later sold to CBS for $325 million. Also, he was the Global Director of Negotiations for Nike sports media in the 90s, so he has the right skills. It probably doesn't hurt that he also worked for NBC in marketing during the '98 Olympics. He also created The MTN. I sat in meeting with him before the MTN started. He's a great salesman. He got me very excited about The MTN and I was all for it. It turned out to be a lot less than what he said it was going to be. He's a smart guy though and I hope he can come through. I think we are going to end up (for the first time) completely lucking out on the timing of this. Live sports programming has turned out to be a bigger money maker than many dreamed five years ago...thanks to DVRs. Games that can go all day long over four four time zones is a big plus (I still can't believe the Big 12 doesn't see that and expand west). I'm guessing this is going to be bigger than we first thought. The Dodgers went for 2 Billion because they knew they were going to negotiate a new TV contract next year. Fingers crossed.  |
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Post by Gilbert on Aug 13, 2012 11:58:48 GMT -8
Now I am starting to think closer to 10 million then 6!
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