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Post by Aztec89 on Aug 11, 2012 17:46:59 GMT -8
It may be too late for this year. But boy, are these guys playing some ball all of the sudden. In early May, it looked like they could lose 105 games, and finish 50 back. All of the sudden, only 11& 1/2 back, and opened an 8 game gap on last place Colorado.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2012 23:28:57 GMT -8
Yes they are.
Headley is finally playing like he deserves to be around the middle of the lineup.
Quentin has legit power
Alonso has pop
Amarista is a firecracker
Grandal (although on the DL) is showing high major potential
Denorfia Venable and Guzman make for a solid bench
Cabrera is a great defender and lightning fast.
Our starting pitching is servicable. With Luebke, Stauffer and Cashner coming back next year to go along with Richards or Volquez/Marquis.. I think next years team could win some games.
Of course Headley could go back to being a 7th hitter in any good lineup, Quentin could just be on a hot streak and strike out 200 times next year with average power, Grandal Alonso and Amarista could go through some growing pains and we could be at another 70 win season.
If the second half of the season is any indication (or maybe a little before that), the former is more likely to be the case.
We would really get on a role if Cameron Maybin could get his $#!+ together. Dude has so much potential. Could be a 30/30 guy and play gold glove center.
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Post by K2Aztec73 on Aug 11, 2012 23:56:09 GMT -8
With Headley's OBP skills, switch hitting, and decent bat control, even in a stacked lineup would be an ideal #2 hitter, getting on base in front of the power guys, and the ability to advance the leadoff man if he gets on ahead of him.
As it is, now that he seems to be finally maturing into some power, I'm fine with him in the 3rd spot.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 12, 2012 21:29:00 GMT -8
Yes they are. Headley is finally playing like he deserves to be around the middle of the lineup. Quentin has legit power Alonso has pop Amarista is a firecracker Grandal (although on the DL) is showing high major potential Denorfia Venable and Guzman make for a solid bench Cabrera is a great defender and lightning fast. Our starting pitching is servicable. With Luebke, Stauffer and Cashner coming back next year to go along with Richards or Volquez/Marquis.. I think next years team could win some games. Of course Headley could go back to being a 7th hitter in any good lineup, Quentin could just be on a hot streak and strike out 200 times next year with average power, Grandal Alonso and Amarista could go through some growing pains and we could be at another 70 win season. If the second half of the season is any indication (or maybe a little before that), the former is more likely to be the case. We would really get on a role if Cameron Maybin could get his $#!+ together. Dude has so much potential. Could be a 30/30 guy and play gold glove center. I agree with all of this. |
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 13, 2012 8:38:42 GMT -8
Yes they are. Headley is finally playing like he deserves to be around the middle of the lineup. Quentin has legit power Alonso has pop Amarista is a firecracker Grandal (although on the DL) is showing high major potential Denorfia Venable and Guzman make for a solid bench Cabrera is a great defender and lightning fast. Our starting pitching is servicable. With Luebke, Stauffer and Cashner coming back next year to go along with Richards or Volquez/Marquis.. I think next years team could win some games. Of course Headley could go back to being a 7th hitter in any good lineup, Quentin could just be on a hot streak and strike out 200 times next year with average power, Grandal Alonso and Amarista could go through some growing pains and we could be at another 70 win season. If the second half of the season is any indication (or maybe a little before that), the former is more likely to be the case. We would really get on a role if Cameron Maybin could get his $#!+ together. Dude has so much potential. Could be a 30/30 guy and play gold glove center. I agree with all of this. Getting Quentin in the lineup. Replacing the middle infield. Giving up on Hundley. That changed half the lineup. Then Alonso and Headley started hitting better. NL West Standings Since June 28| Team | Wins | Losses | Win % | GB | | San Diego | 29 | 24 | 54.7% | -- | | Arizona | 28 | 25 | 52.8% | 1 | | San Francisco | 27 | 25 | 51.9% | 1.5 | | LA Dodgers | 22 | 29 | 43.1% | 6 | | Colorado | 17 | 34 | 33.3% | 11 |
In 2009 the Padres played real good ball for the last 6 weeks and 2010 was simply a carryover from that. Things are looking up. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2012 17:15:00 GMT -8
Looking MUCH better!
I think I predicted 70-92 for the season, but I could be wrong.
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Post by jhonka34 on Aug 13, 2012 21:45:48 GMT -8
To end the season at .500 they would need to go 29-16. The only real tough series left this season is 9 against the Giants (6@home), 6 against the Dodgers, 6 games left against the Braves and a 3 game set against the Cardinals @home. I guess you could throw the Pirates series at home in there as well, but they just won that series on the road, so for the sake of optimistic prognostication we can call that series winnable.
Doing the math makes it look pretty unlikely. They will need several sweeps (6 against Colorado, 3 against Milwaukee) and probably need to take 8 of 9 from Arizona as well as pick up a few series from the teams listed above.
Though the way they are hitting right now, if the pitching can stay strong (for some starters) and get better for the others, not having a losing season isn't out of the question.
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Post by cvtower on Aug 14, 2012 10:54:57 GMT -8
I agree with all of this. Getting Quentin in the lineup. Replacing the middle infield. Giving up on Hundley. That changed half the lineup. Then Alonso and Headley started hitting better. NL West Standings Since June 28| Team | Wins | Losses | Win % | GB | | San Diego | 29 | 24 | 54.7% | -- | | Arizona | 28 | 25 | 52.8% | 1 | | San Francisco | 27 | 25 | 51.9% | 1.5 | | LA Dodgers | 22 | 29 | 43.1% | 6 | | Colorado | 17 | 34 | 33.3% | 11 |
In 2009 the Padres played real good ball for the last 6 weeks and 2010 was simply a carryover from that. Things are looking up. Totally agree with points 1 and 2. With Quentin in the lineup, that took a load of pressure off Headley and other players. No comment needed between the difference of Amarista/Cabrera/Forsythe to that of Hudson/Bartlett. With point 3, I'd like to see a Grandal/Hundley catching combo next season. Baker hasn't impressed despite a few random games with multiple hits |
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 14, 2012 13:45:09 GMT -8
Three things happened that helped the offenseGetting Quentin in the lineup. Replacing the middle infield. Giving up on Hundley. That changed half the lineup. Then Alonso and Headley started hitting better. NL West Standings Since June 28| Team | Wins | Losses | Win % | GB | | San Diego | 29 | 24 | 54.7% | -- | | Arizona | 28 | 25 | 52.8% | 1 | | San Francisco | 27 | 25 | 51.9% | 1.5 | | LA Dodgers | 22 | 29 | 43.1% | 6 | | Colorado | 17 | 34 | 33.3% | 11 |
In 2009 the Padres played real good ball for the last 6 weeks and 2010 was simply a carryover from that. Things are looking up. Totally agree with points 1 and 2. With Quentin in the lineup, that took a load of pressure off Headley and other players. No comment needed between the difference of Amarista/Cabrera/Forsythe to that of Hudson/Bartlett. With point 3, I'd like to see a Grandal/Hundley catching combo next season. Baker hasn't impressed despite a few random games with multiple hits Giving up on Hundley was only listed as a reason for the Padres playing better. That is obvious. I didn't make any far ranging comments on that situation. |
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 14, 2012 13:56:29 GMT -8
They've been playing better but I don't see how you can win without a SS, 2B, and RF: 1. This guy Cabrera is a utility player at best. Somehow he's remained here for like three years and his offensive numbers haven't improved at all. 2. If Forsythe were any good, why would this midget be playing ahead of him? 3. Venable. Headley is now a ML player who's hitting his position. If the Padres trade him, they're fools. If Gyorko's any good, they've gotta force feed him into either 2B or the outfield. "Without a SS, 2B, and RF"? Average production from MLB 2B .255 .318 .379 .697 Padres production from 2B in 2012 without Orlando Hudson (so far) .266 .329 .392 .721
Average production from MLB SS .256 .309 .376 .684 Padres production from SS in 2012 without Jason Bartlett (so far) .219 .292 .308 .600
Average production from MLB RF .261 .328 .436 .764 Padres production from RF in 2012 (so far) .264 .337 .435 .771 Both Venable's and Donorifa's OPS are above MLB average RF.
So 2B and RF is above average even though half our games are at Petco Park. SS is somewhat below Average.
Pos MLB OPS, Padres OPS, Diff P .298 .301 +0.003 C .719 .595 -0.1241B .773 .753 -0.020 2B .697 .677 -.020 3B .746 .826 +0.080 SS .684 .573 -0.111LF .765 .766 +0.001 CF .751 .628 -0.123RF .764 .771 +0.007 PH .660 .745 +0.085 DH .740 .951 +0.211 The real problem areas this year are C, SS, and CF. Catcher: Seems to have been resolved with Gradal. Center Field: Which Maybin will we get in 2013? Short Stop: We could use a stud SS who fields great and hits well. Cabrera is 25, Alexi is 23, and Forsythe is 25. They should all improve. |
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Post by Aztec89 on Aug 26, 2012 5:19:24 GMT -8
Trying to reel in Arizona for 3rd place. That would be massively respectable, if we could find a way to reach .500 and finish 3rd.
Headley is turning into a total bargain to keep.
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Post by jhonka34 on Aug 26, 2012 13:35:08 GMT -8
To end the season at .500 they would need to go 29-16. The only real tough series left this season is 9 against the Giants (6@home), 6 against the Dodgers, 6 games left against the Braves and a 3 game set against the Cardinals @home. I guess you could throw the Pirates series at home in there as well, but they just won that series on the road, so for the sake of optimistic prognostication we can call that series winnable. Doing the math makes it look pretty unlikely. They will need several sweeps (6 against Colorado, 3 against Milwaukee) and probably need to take 8 of 9 from Arizona as well as pick up a few series from the teams listed above. Though the way they are hitting right now, if the pitching can stay strong (for some starters) and get better for the others, not having a losing season isn't out of the question. After I posted this they went on a 5 game losing streak. They followed that with a 6 game win streak and are leading AZ right now in the 4th. That means they need 23-11 to go .500. If they pull out the game today with will need to win 2 of every 3 the rest of the way. Not impossible but unlikely. Though considering how bad this team was early in the season, you'd have to see progress if they can end with 75 or more wins and manage to catch Arizona to claim 3rd place. Of course if they just win every game from here until the end of their season, they have a decent chance at winning the world series. |
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Post by fatmanaztec on Aug 27, 2012 8:02:01 GMT -8
Finish the season on a strong run, new ownership, signing the 'right' guys to extensions and keeping Bud in place are good signs going into the next few years even against Yankee West to the North.
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Post by sdgaucho on Aug 27, 2012 8:41:31 GMT -8
I'm fine with the middle infield rotation as it stands. They have plenty of time to grow and they are a huge reason for the teams recent success. Cabrera/amarista vs Hudson/Bartlett is a no brainer. We replaced a cancer with two total gamers who play all out at all times. Their speed makes the team more dangerous and much more fun to watch. Shoot, Cabrera hasn't been caught stealing since last year.
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 27, 2012 8:53:54 GMT -8
I'm fine with the middle infield rotation as it stands. They have plenty of time to grow and they are a huge reason for the teams recent success. Cabrera/amarista vs Hudson/Bartlett is a no brainer. We replaced a cancer with two total gamers who play all out at all times. Their speed makes the team more dangerous and much more fun to watch. Shoot, Cabrera hasn't been caught stealing since last year. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using proboards I agree. They are both young, meaning they should improve. Both play good defense which is often an undervalued aspect of the value of middle infielders. Note: Cabrera was caught over the weekend. Crime Doesn't pay  |
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 27, 2012 15:26:25 GMT -8
Although the Padres are playing well and have a 7 game win streak, I will be very happy if they take 2 of 3 from the Braves. The Braves are good and are playing great. They have great pitching and hitting and the Padres don't have Richard or Volquez scheduled to pitch this series. Two rookies and a reconditioned reject isn't a very good rotation to battle one of the better teams in baseball.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 27, 2012 21:11:03 GMT -8
1 down, 2 to go. I'd say rookie number one pitched pretty damn well.
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Post by sdgaucho on Aug 27, 2012 23:08:17 GMT -8
Yep, and the defensive keeps p playing great. Cant help but think of the movie Major League at this point. A guy can dream.
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 28, 2012 7:35:29 GMT -8
Cabrera is 25, Alexi is 23, and Forsythe is 25. They should all improve. I guess. Will Amarista improve his height? No. He is destined to be Joe Morgan's height. |
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Post by insider on Aug 31, 2012 13:36:25 GMT -8
Amarista and Forsythe are both bench players, both are very poor defensivly with range and with mediocre bats solid bench players but don't project as starters, Amarista's power was a fluke and the ISO will regress further. Cabrera is a second division starter, it's ok if he is one of your 2 worst position player starters but you want someone better to replace him.
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