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Post by sdsuaztecs on Aug 9, 2012 16:40:19 GMT -8
Ahh...so it's all about the teachers and not the textbook, methodology, assignments, tests or whatever? My experience at SDSU was that the teachers were informative, enhanced the learning experience and then gave a test either multiple choice, true/false or essay. Now tell me.....what difference does the teacher make other than picking out the questions for the test? What traits do teachers at say UCLA have that teachers at SDSU don't have? I always preferred an instructor that could tell good jokes but that's just me. And there were some pretty funny professors at SDSU. So how is it that ALL of the teachers in a given school select easy or hard questions and who the hell defines what is an easy or hard question?
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Post by sdsuaztecs on Aug 9, 2012 16:48:28 GMT -8
And SGF,
I'm planning on a national championship in football whether you like it or not.
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Post by TheSanDiegan on Aug 9, 2012 17:04:39 GMT -8
Now tell me.....what difference does the teacher make other than picking out the questions for the test? I'm not sure where anyone said that methodologies, materials, etc. do not matter. But seriously? A good prof will engage the students, get them more interested in the material, and hopefully, get them to learn as opposed to simply prepping for tests. Any clown monkey can show up and spew text from a book or choose questions for a test. However this does not equate to teaching. That this needs to be explained tells me either you haven't had a good instructor, or maybe that you didn't care enough to know when you did. Then again, that you mention having had funny profs tells me otherwise... So tell me this - were you more inclined to show up for your funny prof's classes than you were for the not-so-funny ones? Maybe even try a little harder in those classes? If so, then congrats, my man... you did have a good instructor after all. So how is it that ALL of the teachers in a given school select easy or hard questions and who the hell defines what is an easy or hard question? Again, I'm not sure where anyone inferred anything about "all" of the teachers, here, there, or elsewhere... I had some kick ass profs at State. And I had some bad ones.
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Post by sdsuaztecs on Aug 9, 2012 17:29:04 GMT -8
TSD,
Throwing around insults on this board is common so I'll cut you some slack. But that's not to say I approve.
This thread was about SDSU's ranking as an "easy" university. My responses are a challenge to the notion that anyone can "easily" discern what schools are easiest unless you actually know each and every instructor and how they teach, what books they are using, their methodologies, testing preferences, etc. In other words, my opinion is that this survey is full of it. But I can also devise an algorithm that will show SDSU is THE toughest school in all respects in the USA. So now what?
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Post by TheSanDiegan on Aug 9, 2012 17:57:43 GMT -8
TSD, Throwing around insults on this board is common so I'll cut you some slack. But that's not to say I approve. This thread was about SDSU's ranking as an "easy" university. My responses are a challenge to the notion that anyone can "easily" discern what schools are easiest unless you actually know each and every intstructor and how they teach, what books they are using, their methodologies, testing preferences, etc. In other words, my opinion is that this survey is full of it. But I can also devise an algorithm that will show SDSU is THE toughest school in all respects in the USA. So now what? I'm not sure where I lobbed an insult in your direction Hoss, but if you feel insulted, then my bad, as that was not my intent. But as someone who actually has taught at State, to suggest that all instructors do nothing "other than picking out the questions for the test" - your words, not mine - is an insult to everyone who has ever delivered material to a class and gave a $#!+ while doing so, in college or otherwise. And, yes, while it might make you feel a lilttle butthurt, to think that is all any and every instructor does would indicate either you didn't have a good insrtuctor, or that you didn't appreciate having a good instrcutor if you did have one. No insult here - just an observation. With regards to the thread, to suggest it is an "easy university" is not accurate, either to this thread or to the source aritcle on which it is based. The article says nothing of the sort. What it does say is, based on their own metrics, we ranked as the 5th most-lenient of the top 200 universities in the country. Given there are several thousand acredited 4-year schools in the country, it is anything if not complimentary, even if in a back-handed fashion. Want to question their metrics? I'm down... 1/3 of this, 1/3 of that sounds more like a recipe for a cocktail than it does a true measurement of a university's status. And if you look at their measurements, our manageable workload index and our acceptance rate rank in the interquartile range of those 'top 200.' The only measurement that appears to skew the data is our student-to-faculty rate, which is high compared to other 'top' schools. You can argue the validity of their metric, but to say: But I can also devise an algorithm that will show SDSU is THE toughest school in all respects in the USA. So now what? ...stretches credulity. Tell you what... knock your bad self out & devise said algorithm, and then present it here to be reviewed. I have about decade of experience mathematically modelling all sorts of crap, so I'm actually qualified to review it.
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Post by sdsuaztecs on Aug 9, 2012 18:05:15 GMT -8
Show me the algorithm that Newsweek was using and we'll talk...however, I suspect most of the Newsweek algorithm involves a lot of methane gas......
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Post by TheSanDiegan on Aug 9, 2012 18:41:31 GMT -8
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Post by rickgene on Aug 12, 2012 4:39:03 GMT -8
I can only speak for myself, but the only difficult part of going to State was attendance.
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Post by robertcb on Aug 12, 2012 8:53:12 GMT -8
As I see it, there is no difference between a UC and a CSU when considering undergraduate degrees. At that level you are really learning the nuts and bots of your major; and in fact, you may be getting a better education at a CSU school. IMO, there is a difference in what is being taught at the graduate school level as many UC profs are heavily into research and at the forefront of their discipline. You would expect to get a better education in this type of environment so this is were the UC schools generally separate themselves from the CSU. Of course, there are plenty of great graduate school at CSU campuses but I am talking about the programs overall. Really, if you are a good student with a great work ethic in and out of the classroom, you will be successful wherever you go to school.
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