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Post by tuff on Aug 1, 2012 7:19:38 GMT -8
Is Gonzaga good in any other sports other than basketball. I'm too lazy to research out.
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Post by pseudoaztec on Aug 1, 2012 8:08:10 GMT -8
Amazing what a simply typo can do to a post. Hopefully the point was not completely lost.
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Post by azteccc on Aug 1, 2012 8:32:04 GMT -8
one here, deux in the OP... surfthespear? |
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Post by NTU on Aug 1, 2012 12:15:57 GMT -8
I figured a coach as great as Fisher won't have to resort to cupcaking his schedule with non D1 schools. No wonder he wanted to join the BW, since every BW school schedules at least one non D1 school each year. Nah, he's not above that, as evidenced by his being ok with adding 16 non D1 schools to the schedule next year. Nine schools (well, 8 if you don't count Hawaii). That's, sadly, 18 games. UGH!  |
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Post by pseudoaztec on Aug 1, 2012 15:39:33 GMT -8
one here, deux in the OP... surfthespear? Absolutely! |
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Post by danloc09 on Aug 1, 2012 16:15:04 GMT -8
"Gonzage" is French for Jamaal. "'ZAGE SO HARD"  Damn, nothing translates well from French - does it? The tenses are so hard |
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Post by beefeater on Aug 2, 2012 1:16:37 GMT -8
Is Gonzaga good in any other sports other than basketball. I'm too lazy to research out. yes I'm too lazy to elaborate. |
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Post by beefeater on Aug 2, 2012 1:22:14 GMT -8
I am a believer in precedent. Gonzage provides that in the form of an obscure BB program from an obscure BB conference that has become a perrenial power nationally. For those that say that going to the BW will ruin Aztecs BB, I point to Gonzaga as an example of a program that, despite it's own lack of history and conference affiliation has risen to prominence. I think Aztecs BB, at this point, is far ahead of where Gonzaga was in 1997. coachjerrykrauseonline.com/Book%20Other%20Bravehearts.htmThis is a valid precedent. Also consider that overall the WCC was not not as good as it is now. The success of Gonzaga was a boon for the entire conference. I figure that if this works out, the BWC will become, more or less, the public school brother of the WCC. |
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Post by beefeater on Aug 2, 2012 1:35:05 GMT -8
I am a believer in precedent. Gonzage provides that in the form of an obscure BB program from an obscure BB conference that has become a perrenial power nationally. For those that say that going to the BW will ruin Aztecs BB, I point to Gonzaga as an example of a program that, despite it's own lack of history and conference affiliation has risen to prominence. I think Aztecs BB, at this point, is far ahead of where Gonzaga was in 1997. coachjerrykrauseonline.com/Book%20Other%20Bravehearts.htmGonzaga is a weird situation. They had one Cinderella run in like 1998 and made it to the eight. Before that, the program was practically nonexistent. Since 1998, they've been good almost every year but they haven't gotten past the sixteen. In other words, they peaked in 1998 and we should expect better than to be the next Gonzaga. Gonzaga has limitations that we don't face. (Of course the inverse is true too.) Fisher has definitely built a program. Now all we need are some truly eye-opening wins. Well, they did have a guy named John Stockton that played for them in the 80's. So, they weren't TOTALLY nonexistent. But, the larger point is very wrong. They did not peak in 1998. Since that time they grew their program significantly. They've had better teams and better players. Their budget is bigger, their facilities are better, they've put more players in the NBA and on All American teams, and they've had better rankings. I'm not totally sure but didn't they even get a #1 ranking during the Adam Morrison years? If not, they definitely were top 2 or 3 at some point. You've taken the wrong lesson from their tournament run in 1998. The lesson is that making a deep run in the NCAA tournament (unless you have OVERWHELMING TALENT) is a very difficult thing to do and you might even say it takes some luck. They had a better team in . . . (I forget the year, but it was Morrison's junior year when they got knocked out by UCLA). And that team came extremely close to knocking off UCLA, who eventually made it to the Final Four. That Gonzaga team could have been a Final Four team, but for a small break here or there. It goes to show how tenuous a tournament run can be. |
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