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Post by Deja Vu U Monty on Jul 6, 2012 21:25:11 GMT -8
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Post by aztecmusician on Jul 7, 2012 1:10:39 GMT -8
Ummmm, is this really thread worthy?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2012 8:43:24 GMT -8
Looks like Moores knew what he was doing all along. However, I think this might be a good thing for Padre fans and the city. Still got to wonder about $800 million.  |
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Post by Section T(urn Up) on Jul 7, 2012 9:07:57 GMT -8
Looks like Moores knew what he was doing all along. However, I think this might be a good thing for Padre fans and the city. Still got to wonder about $800 million. Meh, as someone who didn't follow the sale of the team very closely my reaction is to be completely apathetic as to the cost of the team. It won't affect fans at all. As a baseball fan that lives in San Diego, and who consequentially roots for the Padres out of convenience, I'm excited to see what the O'Malley family brings to the city and the club. I don't know much about it but as I understand it they're highly respected and generally the Dodgers under O'Malley ownership were considered classy and well run. Someone, please correct me if I'm wrong. I can't remember where I heard this but someone gave an interesting outlook on the new draft structure and its impact on player development etc. Their argument/assertion was that since the draft cap evens the playing field to whatever extent it does, teams will start to look more like colleges in terms of recruiting their amateur draft picks. Facilities, ownership and sort of, "intangibles" of an organization could be important to a 3rd round pick who is considering going to college to try to move up in slot money as opposed to signing with the team that drafted him. I don't know if that line of reasoning has any merit to it, frankly I can see several arguments against it but it's a kind of interesting point of view that the O'Malley ownership could impact. |
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Post by Section T(urn Up) on Jul 7, 2012 10:10:48 GMT -8
I'm excited to see what the O'Malley family brings to the city and the club. I don't know much about it but as I understand it they're highly respected and generally the Dodgers under O'Malley ownership were considered classy and well run. Someone, please correct me if I'm wrong. Well I hope you're right. All I remember about the O'Malleys is that they too let players go when they got too expensive. Ironically, these are the guys who didn't want to compete with the Padres for Steve Garvey. Let's not forget that they chose not to stay involved with baseball as recently as 1998, and things haven't exactly gotten cheaper there. They'll keep the ballpark clean, and hopefully they'll replace Der Wienerschnitzel hot dogs with Farmer Johns. Overall, though, I wouldn't expect the payroll to ever reach the top third of MLB if that's what you're driving at. I don't think it will be either, but I also think that's the least informative way to evaluate a team and its owners. |
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Post by Section T(urn Up) on Jul 7, 2012 10:12:27 GMT -8
I'm excited to see what the O'Malley family brings to the city and the club. I don't know much about it but as I understand it they're highly respected and generally the Dodgers under O'Malley ownership were considered classy and well run. Someone, please correct me if I'm wrong. Well I hope you're right. All I remember about the O'Malleys is that they too let players go when they got too expensive. Ironically, these are the guys who didn't want to compete with the Padres for Steve Garvey. Let's not forget that they chose not to stay involved with baseball as recently as 1998, and things haven't exactly gotten cheaper there. They'll keep the ballpark clean, and hopefully they'll replace Der Wienerschnitzel hot dogs with Farmer Johns. Overall, though, I wouldn't expect the payroll to ever reach the top third of MLB if that's what you're driving at. Oh, and it seems illogical to be both surprised by the price paid for the team, and then expect penny pinching. Not saying it won't happen, but it seems like if you're willing to (over)pay so much for the team the only way to increase its value is to upgrade the quality of the brand, as it were. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2012 10:32:01 GMT -8
Well I hope you're right. All I remember about the O'Malleys is that they too let players go when they got too expensive. Ironically, these are the guys who didn't want to compete with the Padres for Steve Garvey. Let's not forget that they chose not to stay involved with baseball as recently as 1998, and things haven't exactly gotten cheaper there. They'll keep the ballpark clean, and hopefully they'll replace Der Wienerschnitzel hot dogs with Farmer Johns. Overall, though, I wouldn't expect the payroll to ever reach the top third of MLB if that's what you're driving at. Oh, and it seems illogical to be both surprised by the price paid for the team, and then expect penny pinching. Not saying it won't happen, but it seems like if you're willing to (over)pay so much for the team the only way to increase its value is to upgrade the quality of the brand, as it were. That's what I was thinking when I said it might be a good thing for Padre fans. It can't get any worse right?? Or can it?? Geez, I hope not. |
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Post by AztecBill on Jul 9, 2012 8:32:43 GMT -8
Oh, and it seems illogical to be both surprised by the price paid for the team, and then expect penny pinching. Not saying it won't happen, but it seems like if you're willing to (over)pay so much for the team the only way to increase its value is to upgrade the quality of the brand, as it were. That's what I was thinking when I said it might be a good thing for Padre fans. It can't get any worse right?? Or can it?? Geez, I hope not. It can get worse if they spend money but not wisely. The Padres might have been penny pinchers in the last three seasons (since the divorce) but they have been smart. They are in position with the young players they have to really make a major jump in one season if money if spent wisely. The foundation is built, we just need a piece or two to take advantage of it. |
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Post by AztecBill on Jul 9, 2012 8:33:22 GMT -8
I'm excited to see what the O'Malley family brings to the city and the club. I don't know much about it but as I understand it they're highly respected and generally the Dodgers under O'Malley ownership were considered classy and well run. Someone, please correct me if I'm wrong. Well I hope you're right. All I remember about the O'Malleys is that they too let players go when they got too expensive. Ironically, these are the guys who didn't want to compete with the Padres for Steve Garvey. Let's not forget that they chose not to stay involved with baseball as recently as 1998, and things haven't exactly gotten cheaper there. They'll keep the ballpark clean, and hopefully they'll replace Der Wienerschnitzel hot dogs with Farmer Johns. Overall, though, I wouldn't expect the payroll to ever reach the top third of MLB if that's what you're driving at. Letting Garvey go shows they were smart. Garvey was not the reason we won in 1984, we won despite Garvey. We signed Greg Nettles that year too and he had a much better year than Garvey. I looked it up for you. 1984 Padres stats Garvey OBP .307 SLG .373 OPS .680 Graig Nettles OBP .329 SLG .413 OPS .742 Graig Nettles made less outs and hit for more power. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2012 9:14:16 GMT -8
That's what I was thinking when I said it might be a good thing for Padre fans. It can't get any worse right?? Or can it?? Geez, I hope not. It can get worse if they spend money but not wisely. The Padres might have been penny pinchers in the last three seasons (since the divorce) but they have been smart. They are in position with the young players they have to really make a major jump in one season if money if spent wisely. The foundation is built, we just need a piece or two to take advantage of it. Yeah Bill, you might be right. There are a couple of Padres that are showing signs of good things to come. I hope the new owners go out and get a couple more guys that pitchers don't want to pitch to. Adrian Gonzales had some good numbers in SD. I would liked to have seen those numbers if he had two or three guys in the line to protect him and each other. A couple more power bats and the Pads are in business. Pitching (when healthy) seems to be fine as usual. |
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Post by AztecBill on Jul 9, 2012 10:23:44 GMT -8
It can get worse if they spend money but not wisely. The Padres might have been penny pinchers in the last three seasons (since the divorce) but they have been smart. They are in position with the young players they have to really make a major jump in one season if money if spent wisely. The foundation is built, we just need a piece or two to take advantage of it. Yeah Bill, you might be right. There are a couple of Padres that are showing signs of good things to come. I hope the new owners go out and get a couple more guys that pitchers don't want to pitch to. Adrian Gonzales had some good numbers in SD. I would liked to have seen those numbers if he had two or three guys in the line to protect him and each other. A couple more power bats and the Pads are in business. Pitching (when healthy) seems to be fine as usual. That is why of all the guys mentioned in trade talks I hope Huston Street doesn't get traded. We can replace the others much more easily. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2012 10:43:29 GMT -8
I'm excited to see what the O'Malley family brings to the city and the club. I don't know much about it but as I understand it they're highly respected and generally the Dodgers under O'Malley ownership were considered classy and well run. Someone, please correct me if I'm wrong. They'll keep the ballpark clean, and hopefully they'll replace Der Wienerschnitzel hot dogs with Farmer Johns. Aka-Padre Dogs  |
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Post by K2Aztec73 on Jul 9, 2012 17:52:02 GMT -8
Aka-Padre Dogs ... make that Friar Franks ... |
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