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Post by k5james on Jul 8, 2012 10:26:44 GMT -8
Championships are won on the football field. Stars are the opinion of rivals and scout. Proud member of both sites but I'll be damned if I let them determine what type of player a kid is before he even straps on a helmet for us. Not sure anyone is suggesting that the scouting/reporting services determine who fills our roster. However, there is an undeniably high correlation between highly ranked teams in recruiting (stars, etc.) and teams ranked high in the polls at the end of the season. We ignore that at our own peril. Is it that, or the fact that they're highly rated because they are recruited by teams that finished ranked higher in the polls? I know teams like Utah, TCU and Boise were able to beat a lot of people with classes that weren't highly rated...
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Post by sdfootballfan on Jul 8, 2012 10:34:04 GMT -8
Championships are won on the football field. Stars are the opinion of rivals and scout. Proud member of both sites but I'll be damned if I let them determine what type of player a kid is before he even straps on a helmet for us. Not sure anyone is suggesting that the scouting/reporting services determine who fills our roster. However, there is an undeniably high correlation between highly ranked teams in recruiting (stars, etc.) and teams ranked high in the polls at the end of the season. We ignore that at our own peril. So was Rocky suppose to wave a magic wand and make us a national power overnight? We only won 1 bowl since '69, we rarely play on national TV, can't fill our stadium, where do you expect us to be at right now? Give the staff a chance to work with the resources they have.
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Post by myownwords on Jul 8, 2012 10:36:06 GMT -8
Not sure anyone is suggesting that the scouting/reporting services determine who fills our roster. However, there is an undeniably high correlation between highly ranked teams in recruiting (stars, etc.) and teams ranked high in the polls at the end of the season. We ignore that at our own peril. Is it that, or the fact that they're highly rated because they are recruited by teams that finished ranked higher in the polls? I know teams like Utah, TCU and Boise were able to beat a lot of people with classes that weren't highly rated...[/quot That is counter intuitive, but I'm sure anything is possible. Utah, TCU and Boise are unique. They, arguably, have the best coaches in the country.
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Post by k5james on Jul 8, 2012 10:54:40 GMT -8
Not sure anyone is suggesting that the scouting/reporting services determine who fills our roster. However, there is an undeniably high correlation between highly ranked teams in recruiting (stars, etc.) and teams ranked high in the polls at the end of the season. We ignore that at our own peril. Is it that, or the fact that they're highly rated because they are recruited by teams that finished ranked higher in the polls? I know teams like Utah, TCU and Boise were able to beat a lot of people with classes that weren't highly rated...[/quot That is counter intuitive, but I'm sure anything is possible. Utah, TCU and Boise are unique. They, arguably, have the best coaches in the country. Kyle Whittingham isn't one of the best coaches in the country.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2012 12:30:22 GMT -8
Well there is little or no uniformity of opinion on who is what,three stars or four or two, except for a few guys. One guy is a two star on Scout is a three star on rivals and not rated on ESPN or vice versa. Last year ESPN had us with 11 three star players the others Rivals,Scout, only a couple.I think some guys with four stars and three are way overrated case in point Moala, and Lopez both are 40 pounds overweight. Also guys are recruited with a number of variables in mind,what kind of offense or defense the team plays, they play who they have now at various positions. Wells has excellent feet are you kidding he is not polished because like some kids he plays too many positions. Also he played basketball and so on.Rocky has been ahead coach or coordinator a lot longer than most of you guys have been alive. TCU and Boise for years followed the same formula Long is doing find fast, tough, agile athletes. How well we do in the future depends a good deal on whether we win right away in the Big east or flop. If we have a mediocre or crappy season(eight wins) this year It will hurt recruiting. If we go 5-7 or 6-6 or worse in the Big east then we are toast. Louisville and Rutgers and Cincinnati are most likely sure losses. This move reminds me of the move to the WAC years ago,and could end up even worse. But Steveem, do you feel that Rocky is in the same coaching "league" as Patterson or Petersen? No they are better thna 95% of college coaches. The questions is is Rocky a solid coach for SDSU. Can he win sufficently to keep us a float. My answer to that is maybe. He knows his Xs and Os he knows the fundamentals, hard nose disciplined football. The big question is ? Can his coaches recruit to a higher leve,l If they can he will do fine if not he will fail. Coach Long is making inroads back inot the top JC's,this is important. Not for the average JC guy but the guys ike the TE from Santa Monica and Largent these are all Conference potetial players.Some guys want to get away from home what better place than SDSU. Doing well in AZ and Nevada,if we could land agy r two from Texas LA ,start that rolling. Or maybe Oklahma get those two Bean and Phillips.
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Post by ernieaztec on Jul 8, 2012 14:54:18 GMT -8
when we get a two star you guys are like ratings suck! but if we ever get a four star you guys are all like wooooooooooo. but i thought ratings dont matter? idont care hes a four star wooooooo!
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Post by spgonzo on Jul 8, 2012 15:05:11 GMT -8
when we get a two star you guys are like ratings suck! but if we ever get a four star you guys are all like wooooooooooo. but i thought ratings dont matter? idont care hes a four star wooooooo! LOL! Ernie, you are spot on! Ratings don't matter until you start getting highly ranked players.
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Post by RockNFish on Jul 8, 2012 17:47:40 GMT -8
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Post by k5james on Jul 8, 2012 20:55:47 GMT -8
when we get a two star you guys are like ratings suck! but if we ever get a four star you guys are all like wooooooooooo. but i thought ratings dont matter? idont care hes a four star wooooooo! LOL! Ernie, you are spot on! Ratings don't matter until you start getting highly ranked players. Who said ratings don't matter?
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Post by bschmurda on Jul 8, 2012 21:06:36 GMT -8
LOL! Ernie, you are spot on! Ratings don't matter until you start getting highly ranked players. Who said ratings don't matter? seriously, its like there is no middle ground either pointless or means everything
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Post by k5james on Dec 6, 2012 15:22:40 GMT -8
Rivals rates him a 5.5, or ***.
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Post by badfish on Dec 6, 2012 18:18:56 GMT -8
Rivals rates him a 5.5, or ***. Damn, that's pretty good. Isn't a 5.6 a 4* or some $#!+? I don't care much about stars, the guy looks good. He would have gotten more publicity if he didn't have to play QB his junior year.
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Post by OnionHead on Dec 6, 2012 18:32:12 GMT -8
David Wells is rated with a 5.5 score, which is 3 stars. Rivals incorrectly is missing a star next to his name.
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Post by aztecnole on Dec 7, 2012 9:12:04 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2012 17:43:32 GMT -8
Mcfadden two stars,Lockett two stars,Escobar,two stars, AAron Brown,two stars. one guy could be three stars on scout two on ESPN three on rivals or vice versa, Jow \e Morrow is unrated on Rivals almost four stars on ESPN,and Lynch two stars on Rivals and scout almost four on ESPN. 'Brown was too slow to be a deep threat ha ha.
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