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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2012 15:37:47 GMT -8
Big hole huh....so he posts 1100 OPS and a .356 average with a "BIG" hole in his swing....I wonder what he'd hit with just a "little" hole in it. Yep big hole. They say he has to shorten his swing. That is why is wasn't hitting at the major league level last year. I have heard them talk about it on tv before and also read about it in print and online. Maybe, but he was only 21 when he got called up and youngsters often struggle in their debut. There are countless examples. |
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Post by AztecTom on Jun 4, 2012 15:41:36 GMT -8
Have no clue but catchers don't usually play in the outfield. If you can hit, a big league club will find a spot for you. Craig Biggio moved to second, Phil Nevin to third, etc. Bryce Harper was an amateur catcher. Besides, I was just speculating. If the Padres are too cheap to eat Hundley's extension salary, it's time to start looking at options. Grandal is 23, it's his time. Get Hundley outta there. I wouldn't pull the plug on Hundley yet. If his bat comes around which I think it will, he is solid. |
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Post by AztecTom on Jun 4, 2012 15:42:29 GMT -8
Yep big hole. They say he has to shorten his swing. That is why is wasn't hitting at the major league level last year. I have heard them talk about it on tv before and also read about it in print and online. Maybe, but he was only 21 when he got called up and youngsters often struggle in their debut. There are countless examples. Just telling you what I have observed, heard and read about. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2012 15:47:47 GMT -8
Right on. So.....let me ask you this. The Padres have a prospect at catcher whom appears to be major league ready. He's 23 and has excelled at AAA. Bill says he's ranked 68th overall, not too shabby. Nick Hundley will be 29 in 3 months. He has a career .703 OPS. He has never hit more than 9 HR in a season, is oft injured, and for his career has struck out 3x more often than he has walked. What if this were a trend dating back to even his own days at AAA Portland? His AAA numbers left a LOT to be desired. www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=hundle001nic |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2012 15:50:29 GMT -8
If you can hit, a big league club will find a spot for you. Craig Biggio moved to second, Phil Nevin to third, etc. Bryce Harper was an amateur catcher. Besides, I was just speculating. If the Padres are too cheap to eat Hundley's extension salary, it's time to start looking at options. Grandal is 23, it's his time. Get Hundley outta there. I wouldn't pull the plug on Hundley yet. If his bat comes around which I think it will, he is solid. Come around? He's never been a "good" hitter. He had a good 2nd half last year. |
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Post by AztecTom on Jun 4, 2012 15:51:03 GMT -8
Right on. So.....let me ask you this. The Padres have a prospect at catcher whom appears to be major league ready. He's 23 and has excelled at AAA. Bill says he's ranked 68th overall, not too shabby. Nick Hundley will be 29 in 3 months. He has a career .703 OPS. He has never hit more than 9 HR in a season, is oft injured, and for his career has struck out 3x more often than he has walked. What if this were a trend dating back to even his own days at AAA Portland? His AAA numbers left a LOT to be desired. www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=hundle001nic I like Grandal and think he has a bright future for us. But as you know, we aren't going anywhere this year. Why not get him the experience and at bats at the AAA level and get him ready for next year. |
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Post by AztecTom on Jun 4, 2012 15:52:04 GMT -8
I wouldn't pull the plug on Hundley yet. If his bat comes around which I think it will, he is solid. Come around? He's never been a "good" hitter. He had a good 2nd half last year. He is a decent hitter. He is now throwing out runners which he couldn't do until this year. If he could hit around 275, I would be happy with that. |
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 4, 2012 16:48:49 GMT -8
Come around? He's never been a "good" hitter. He had a good 2nd half last year. He is a decent hitter. He is now throwing out runners which he couldn't do until this year. If he could hit around 275, I would be happy with that. That is why stats are so great. Last year Hundley threw out 36% of the runners. This year Hundley has thrown out 35% of the runners. Hundley has alway thrown out runners very well. Hundley get a bad rep about throwing out runners because he caught every one of Chris Young's games. He literally never threw out a runner when Chris Young was pitching but in other games he was well above NL Average. Since runners ran a lot more against Chris Young, Hundley's overall numbers looked bad. |
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 4, 2012 16:53:23 GMT -8
I heard somwhere that Hundley is not 100%. Don't know if that is the reason for the bad at bats.
Nick has improved his OPS every year in the majors.
2008 .637
2009 .719
2010 .726
2011 .824
His post-all-star numbers last year were great.
.367 .404 .656 1.060
He is one of the few players the Padres have had that hits well at Petco Park.
Those are the reasons they signed him to a long term contact. I expect Hundley, long term, to be a good hitter.
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Post by AztecTom on Jun 4, 2012 16:53:58 GMT -8
He is a decent hitter. He is now throwing out runners which he couldn't do until this year. If he could hit around 275, I would be happy with that. That is why stats are so great. Last year Hundley threw out 36% of the runners. This year Hundley has thrown out 35% of the runners. Hundley has alway thrown out runners very well. Hundley get a bad rep about throwing out runners because he caught every one of Chris Young's games. He literally never threw out a runner when Chris Young was pitching but in other games he was well above NL Average. Since runners ran a lot more against Chris Young, Hundley's overall numbers looked bad. You sure about those stats Bill? I was watching one of the Padres games in the last month or so and they said he only threw out 4 runners last year and had already thrown out 12 this year. |
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Post by AztecTom on Jun 4, 2012 16:55:08 GMT -8
I heard somwhere that Hundley is not 100%. Don't know if that is the reason for the bad at bats. Nick has improved his OPS every year in the majors. 2008 .637 2009 .719 2010 .726 2011 .824 His post-all-star numbers last year were great. .367 .404 .656 1.060 That is why they signed him to a long term contact. I expect Hundley, long term, to be a good hitter. I know it's just spring training but he was tearing the cover off the ball before he got hurt. |
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 4, 2012 17:01:20 GMT -8
That is why stats are so great. Last year Hundley threw out 36% of the runners. This year Hundley has thrown out 35% of the runners. Hundley has always thrown out runners very well. Hundley get a bad rep about throwing out runners because he caught every one of Chris Young's games. He literally never threw out a runner when Chris Young was pitching but in other games he was well above NL Average. Since runners ran a lot more against Chris Young, Hundley's overall numbers looked bad. You sure about those stats Bill? I was watching one of the Padres games in the last month or so and they said he only threw out 4 runners last year and had already thrown out 12 this year. Who are you going to trust Tom? Hundley Defense 201157 Stolen Bases 32 Caught Stealing 32 / (57+32) = 35.9% 201239 Stolen Bases 21 Caught Stealing 21/ (21+39) = 35.0% They will never look deep enough to give you the Chris Young Numbers. 201041 Stolen Bases 17 Caught Stealing 17/ (17+41) = 29.3% 2010 without Chris Young21 Stolen Bases 17 Caught Stealing 17/ (17+21) = 44.7% The "problems" Nick had with throwing out runners was always an illusion. |
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Post by AztecTom on Jun 4, 2012 17:04:19 GMT -8
You sure about those stats Bill? I was watching one of the Padres games in the last month or so and they said he only threw out 4 runners last year and had already thrown out 12 this year. Who are you going to trust Tom? Hundley Defense 201157 Stolen Bases 32 Caught Stealing 32 / (57+32) = 35.9% 201239 Stolen Bases 21 Caught Stealing 21/ (21+39) = 35.0% They will never look deep enough to give you the Chris Young Numbers. 201041 Stolen Bases 17 Caught Stealing 17/ (17+41) = 29.3% 2010 without Chris Young21 Stolen Bases 17 Caught Stealing 17/ (17+21) = 44.7% The "problems" Nick had with throwing out runners was always an illusion. I trust you. I need to stop wasting my time of watching and listening to the Padres broadcasts. |
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