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Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 17, 2010 10:02:04 GMT -8
You may already have seen the new layout and size of the San Diego Union Tribune. Narrower pages and, or so it seems to me, less content. Less national and international news, for one thing.
This process of less and less newspaper has been going on for some time. For decades the opinion section was always two full pages on weeks days and Saturday and took up a whole section on Sundays. Then, two or three years ago, they cut that down to one page some days and no special section on Sundays. The Sunday opinion section became just three pages at the end of the Our Region section.
No doubt the UT is saving some money by using less paper, but I would guess that they save even more by eliminating the need for as many writers as were needed when more content was published.
This is just another chapter in the sad story of the decline of print journalism. Other signs of the times; the Christian Science Monitor has given up publication as a daily newspaper in favor of online editions and a weekly print magazine. U.S. News and World Report went from a weekly to bi-weekly in 2008, and has now become a monthly. And we have seen virtually all evening newspapers either move to morning publication or disappear entirely. Meanwhile most remaining newspapers, including the New York Times, continue to lose money.
I'm wondering whether, perhaps not too many years from now, some American city, perhaps not even a small one, will see it's last print newspaper disappear. (Digital publication direct to one's digital reader likely will take over then. Let's call it the Brave New World of digital only printing.)
AzWm
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Post by uwaztec on Aug 17, 2010 10:29:07 GMT -8
Oh come on William... you know that newspapers are going under because of their politics!! That's what O'Reilly etc. have conveniently been saying for the last couple years... never once mentioning the overall reduction in print media because of electronic competition.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Aug 17, 2010 11:24:47 GMT -8
You should have read their full page ads the last couple of Sundays. they said they were going to a narrower format. I thought it would be tabloid but I guess not. Personally, I don't much like it. They also stated that they were going to concentrate much more on local news, but I don't know if today is a full indication of that or they just did that "watchdog" story to make their point. And they also stated that the Sunday opinion section will go back to what it was in the past.
=Bob
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Post by William L. Rupp on Aug 17, 2010 12:55:18 GMT -8
Oh come on William... you know that newspapers are going under because of their politics!! That's what O'Reilly etc. have conveniently been saying for the last couple years... never once mentioning the overall reduction in print media because of electronic competition. Hey, don't associate me with Bill O'Reilly! He makes lots of pronouncements on all sorts of topics that are nothing more than poorly reasoned opinions. O'Reilly has way too high an opinion of his ability to diagnose the nation's ills. As I said, don't count me as an O'Reilly follower. For one thing, he is way, way too easy on Obama! Seriously. AzWm |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Aug 17, 2010 13:12:05 GMT -8
Oh come on William... you know that newspapers are going under because of their politics!! That's what O'Reilly etc. have conveniently been saying for the last couple years... never once mentioning the overall reduction in print media because of electronic competition. Hey, don't associate me with Bill O'Reilly! He makes lots of pronouncements on all sorts of topics that are nothing more than poorly reasoned opinions. O'Reilly has way too high an opinion of his ability to diagnose the nation's ills. As I said, don't count me as an O'Reilly follower. For one thing, he is way, way too easy on Obama! Seriously. AzWm Yeah, I'm sure you far prefer Glen Beck. =Bob |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 17, 2010 14:45:14 GMT -8
That's Glenn with 2 Ns, Bob.  Beck is too conspiratorial for my taste. (Well, a bit too conspiratorial.) On the plus side he does ask some important questions. He's also very entertaining. AzWm |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Aug 17, 2010 15:48:28 GMT -8
That's Glenn with 2 Ns, Bob. Beck is too conspiratorial for my taste. (Well, a bit too conspiratorial.) On the plus side he does ask some important questions. He's also very entertaining. AzWm Yeah, he asks "important questions" like "is Obama a Nazi or a Communist?" He's an idiot, Will, and only another idiot would ever bother watching him. My God, do you have any understanding at all of what our Constitution says? Apparently not if you think Beck offers "important questions". =Bob |
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Post by monty on Aug 17, 2010 17:23:57 GMT -8
I used to be daily reader of the LA times from the time I was rather young and still got it most days when I went to SDSU (Also got the UT delivered to have a newspaper), but, online has surpassed that, and i imagine i read more sources and different views than before - though I don't read as many of the silly little stories that were always entertaining (what was the guy, Randy Harvey? had a funny column in b section of the la times).
I have felt for some time that newspapers should be almost exlusively local as national and world stories are almost always covered by a wire/ap and even the big houses like the times' on both costs and the other major papers were using many of these sources. Those stories are now accessible instantly, and, furthermore, often accompanied by video, audio and you tube like shots. When Haiti went down, the LA and NY times both had rapid updates on their blogs of information, videos - professional and amateur - that it really solidified where media was going, and acctually where it could go: instant, visual, and frankly more important.
Newspapers are cozy with folding em up, being able to flip through titles and bylines quick, etc, but there is nothing they can do better than new media save that coziness. I would and will argue that books are superior to e-books because of annotation, the way we all differently recieve, process and store information; but newspapers are an inherently disposable medium and one that best operates on disseminating the information quickly - a printing press doesn't do a small percentage of the job that a computer and the internet can do.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 17, 2010 17:44:20 GMT -8
That's Glenn with 2 Ns, Bob. Beck is too conspiratorial for my taste. (Well, a bit too conspiratorial.) On the plus side he does ask some important questions. He's also very entertaining. AzWm Yeah, he asks "important questions" like "is Obama a Nazi or a Communist?" He's an idiot, Will, and only another idiot would ever bother watching him. My God, do you have any understanding at all of what our Constitution says? Apparently not if you think Beck offers "important questions". =Bob I believe I understand the U.S. Constitution quite well, Bob. I understand the most important feature of that document, which is that the federal government can only do what the Constitution says it can do. Everything else is left to the states and to the people. That concept, of course, is just too, too antiquated for the progressives, who are convinced that only an elite vanguard is capable of leading the people to the promised land of social justice, reusable shopping bags, and single payer health insurance. By the way, Bob, just how many of Beck's shows have you actually watched? As in watched all the way through. AzWm |
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Post by aztec70 on Aug 17, 2010 18:51:49 GMT -8
Yeah, he asks "important questions" like "is Obama a Nazi or a Communist?" He's an idiot, Will, and only another idiot would ever bother watching him. My God, do you have any understanding at all of what our Constitution says? Apparently not if you think Beck offers "important questions". =Bob I believe I understand the U.S. Constitution quite well, Bob. I understand the most important feature of that document, which is that the federal government can only do what the Constitution says it can do. Everything else is left to the states and to the people. That concept, of course, is just too, too antiquated for the progressives, who are convinced that only an elite vanguard is capable of leading the people to the promised land of social justice, reusable shopping bags, and single payer health insurance. By the way, Bob, just how many of Beck's shows have you actually watched? As in watched all the way through. AzWm Really, William, you acted as if the Constitution is all about state's rights. If that were the case we would still be using the Articles. The Constituion was put in place to make the Federal government supreme over the states. |
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Post by uwaztec on Aug 17, 2010 19:44:41 GMT -8
Yeah, he asks "important questions" like "is Obama a Nazi or a Communist?" He's an idiot, Will, and only another idiot would ever bother watching him. My God, do you have any understanding at all of what our Constitution says? Apparently not if you think Beck offers "important questions". =Bob I believe I understand the U.S. Constitution quite well, Bob. I understand the most important feature of that document, which is that the federal government can only do what the Constitution says it can do. Everything else is left to the states and to the people. That concept, of course, is just too, too antiquated for the progressives, who are convinced that only an elite vanguard is capable of leading the people to the promised land of social justice, reusable shopping bags, and single payer health insurance. By the way, Bob, just how many of Beck's shows have you actually watched? As in watched all the way through. AzWm William...Beck is a combination of "Reverend Ike" and Jim Jones. He has taken notes on the televangelists and even uses Crocodile tears to manipulate his audience. He has a big problem with "socialists" like Teddy Roosevelt.. but doesn't seem to have a problem with the founders of his own religion like Joseph Smith and Brigham Young who were the founders of polygamy and inspired today's enclaves of FLDS (up to 40,000 in one community) in Utah, British Columbia and Arizona that place 13 and 14 year old girls in sexual bondage. These communities hate taxes, but have been sponging the US government for millions in welfare and food stamps for 80 years. |
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