June Draft Picks (as they now stand)

[AztecBill]

First 4 rounds of picks.

Padres	7	32	41	55	60	62	92	125
Blue Jays	17	22	47	50	51	71	102	135
Athletics	11	33	44	53	65	96	129
Cardinals	19	23	35	49	76	107	140
Mets	12	34	63	66	97	130
Red Sox	24	31	36	77	108	141
Rangers	29	37	73	82	113	146
Astros	1	38	52	85	119
Twins	2	39	54	86	120
Mariners	3	56	87	116	121
Cubs	6	40	59	91	124
Pirates	8	42	61	93	126
Rockies	10	43	64	118	128
White Sox	13	45	67	98	131
Reds	14	46	68	99	132
Dodgers	18	48	72	103	136
Yankees	30	83	89	114	147
Orioles	4	57	88	122
Marlins	9	94	117	127
Royals	5	58	90	128
Indians	15	69	100	133
Nationals	16	70	101	134
Giants	20	74	105	138
Braves	21	75	106	139
Rays	25	78	109	142
Diamondbacks	26	79	110	143
Tigers	27	80	111	144
Brewers	28	81	112	145
Phillies	84	115	148
Angels	104	137

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Is it me, or has Bill and Ryan been talking about drafts, "prospects", and the Won/Loss record of our AA affiliate since 2006?

Which is fine, and I appreciate the knowledge. But one has to wonder why so little is heard from them in regards to the MAJOR LEAGUE CLUB.

Man, to hear you folks (Bill especially) spin it.......the Padres better be perennial pennant contenders from 2013 til 2018 at least!!! With all this talent being harvested down on the farm....

[The Aztec Panther]

Again, it makes no difference how good your farm system is if your Major League club is, essentially, a AAAA club for the big boys.

The Padres don't hold on to talent. They trade away every good player they have once he is worth any kind of real MLB money. There is NO consistency. NO core of a team to build around. It's always scraps and leftovers and guys who aren't yet MLB starter caliber.

When the team commits to a $70+ million payroll (which they can easily afford) then they will show otherwise. But even a $50 million payroll is near the bottom of the league, and this isn't a small market team - it's a mid market team.

[Aztec89]

Dec 23, 2011 14:20:40 GMT -8 @josh said:

Is it me, or has Bill and Ryan been talking about drafts, "prospects", and the Won/Loss record of our AA affiliate since 2006?

Which is fine, and I appreciate the knowledge. But one has to wonder why so little is heard from them in regards to the MAJOR LEAGUE CLUB.

Man, to hear you folks (Bill especially) spin it.......the Padres better be perennial pennant contenders from 2013 til 2018 at least!!! With all this talent being harvested down on the farm....

The Padres will develop these kids into Major Leaguers, then trade them to Contenders where they will become Hall of Famers in other teams caps. Trade them for more prospects and draft picks of course.

;D

[Morpheus]

Dec 26, 2011 16:17:11 GMT -8 John, Your Pal said:

Dec 23, 2011 14:20:40 GMT -8 @josh said:

Is it me, or has Bill and Ryan been talking about drafts, "prospects", and the Won/Loss record of our AA affiliate since 2006?

Which is fine, and I appreciate the knowledge. But one has to wonder why so little is heard from them in regards to the MAJOR LEAGUE CLUB.

Man, to hear you folks (Bill especially) spin it.......the Padres better be perennial pennant contenders from 2013 til 2018 at least!!! With all this talent being harvested down on the farm....

Cedric Hunter

Freddie Guzman
Junior Herndon
George arias
Wascar Serrano
Dennis tankersley
Sean Burroughs
Matt antonelli
Ceasar Carrillo


I could go and on. All organizations miss on more than they hit but the Padres have been despicable.

[AztecBill]

Dec 27, 2011 13:01:35 GMT -8 Morpheus said:

Dec 26, 2011 16:17:11 GMT -8 John, Your Pal said:

Cedric Hunter

Freddie Guzman
Junior Herndon
George arias
Wascar Serrano
Dennis tankersley
Sean Burroughs
Matt antonelli
Ceasar Carrillo


I could go and on. All organizations miss on more than they hit but the Padres have been despicable.

Those players were never rated real high overall but only within the Padres org. Now some folks have said the Padres, because of their great depth of good players in the minors, are the best minors.

[Morpheus]

Dec 30, 2011 17:01:58 GMT -8 AztecBill said:

Dec 27, 2011 13:01:35 GMT -8 Morpheus said:

Freddie Guzman
Junior Herndon
George arias
Wascar Serrano
Dennis tankersle
Sean Burroughs
Matt antonelli
Ceasar Carrillo


I could go and on. All organizations miss on more than they hit but the Padres have been despicable.

Those players were never rated real high overall but only within the Padres org. Now some folks have said the Padres, because of their great depth of good players in the minors, are
the best minors.

If you didn't know that Tankersley and Burroughs were BA top 10 OVERALL prospects then you are not as informed as you think you are.

[AztecBill]

Dec 30, 2011 22:16:13 GMT -8 Morpheus said:

Dec 30, 2011 17:01:58 GMT -8 AztecBill said:

Those players were never rated real high overall but only within the Padres org. Now some folks have said the Padres, because of their great depth of good players in the minors, are
the best minors.

If you didn't know that Tankersley and Burroughs were BA top 10 OVERALL prospects then you are not as informed as you think you are.

"Overall" indicates I was taking about the group.

[AztecBill]

Dec 30, 2011 17:57:26 GMT -8 John, Your Pal said:

Dec 30, 2011 17:01:58 GMT -8 AztecBill said:

Those players were never rated real high overall but only within the Padres org. Now some folks have said the Padres, because of their great depth of good players in the minors, are the best minors.

I believe you when you say we have plenty of "good" players in the minors, but how many of them project to be stars? My guess is not many.

It is like recruiting in NCAA football. At different levels of ratings players will become stars in MLB at different percentages. Having a whole lot of "B-type" players means we will (most likely) have a number that succeed. In the past we had very few "B-type" players and the numbers just didn't work out for the Padres.

[AztecBill]

Dec 26, 2011 6:12:56 GMT -8 Aztec89 said:

Dec 23, 2011 14:20:40 GMT -8 @josh said:

Is it me, or has Bill and Ryan been talking about drafts, "prospects", and the Won/Loss record of our AA affiliate since 2006?

Which is fine, and I appreciate the knowledge. But one has to wonder why so little is heard from them in regards to the MAJOR LEAGUE CLUB.

Man, to hear you folks (Bill especially) spin it.......the Padres better be perennial pennant contenders from 2013 til 2018 at least!!! With all this talent being harvested down on the farm....

The Padres will develop these kids into Major Leaguers, then trade them to Contenders where they will become Hall of Famers in other teams caps. Trade them for more prospects and draft picks of course.

;D

I can think of one player the Padres developed and traded for prospects to avoid paying big bucks: Peavy.

Maybe you can help me think of some others that follow your formula.

[AztecBill]

Updated Data

Padres	7	33	42	55	62	64	95	128
Blue Jays	17	22	48	52	53	74	105	138
Twins	2	32	40	57	66	90	123
Athletics	11	34	45	56	68	99	132
Cardinals	19	23	36	50	79	110	143
Rangers	29	38	51	76	85	116	149
Rockies	10	44	67	98	121	131
Mets	12	35	65	69	100	133
Red Sox	24	31	37	80	111	144
Astros	1	39	54	88	122
Mariners	3	58	91	119	124
Cubs	6	41	61	94	127
Pirates	8	43	63	96	129
Reds	14	47	71	102	135
Dodgers	18	49	75	106	139
Yankees	30	86	89	117	150
Orioles	4	59	92	125
Royals	5	60	93	126
Marlins	9	97	120	130
White Sox	46	70	101	134
Indians	15	72	103	136
Nationals	16	73	104	137
Giants	20	77	108	141
Braves	21	78	109	142
Rays	25	81	112	145
Diamondbacks	26	82	113	146
Tigers	27	83	114	147
Brewers	28	84	115	148
Phillies	87	118	151
Angels	107	140
White Sox	13