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Post by Spud on Aug 2, 2010 16:48:22 GMT -8
Now that the bird flu epidemic is over, looks like Joe has shifted his sights to the Bible and the end of the world. Since it would be a shame to have his musings lost amidst the other threads in the Off Topic Forum, can we get him his own Forum? KThx...
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Aug 2, 2010 16:58:17 GMT -8
Now that the bird flu epidemic is over, looks like Joe has shifted his sights to the Bible and the end of the world. Since it would be a shame to have his musings lost amidst the other threads in the Off Topic Forum, can we get him his own Forum? KThx... Spud, you have never liked anything that would make you think. As I have stated, I post to make people think. If you do not like to think, then do not read the posts. It is that simple. Others like them and enjoy a laugh or two or serious introspection once in a while. It is an IQ thing.
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Aug 3, 2010 6:50:28 GMT -8
Oh, a little additional information, the Bird Flu epidemic is not over.
It is still killing people in Asia, Africa and Europe. Luckily it has never acquired the capacity to freely transmit between people like ordinary flu. That mutation could come any day now.
I have warned people about it in the past and will still warn them. I did tell people in 2007 that when we have our next pandemic that it would be mild. Guess what, I was spot on.
When I was interviewed by the BBC, they seemed to be disappointed that I felt that any new strain of Type A flu would not bring Mega Death so they stopped interviewing me and switched to the alarmists.
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Post by aztecwin on Aug 3, 2010 10:56:23 GMT -8
Oh, a little additional information, the Bird Flu epidemic is not over. It is still killing people in Asia, Africa and Europe. Luckily it has never acquired the capacity to freely transmit between people like ordinary flu. That mutation could come any day now. I have warned people about it in the past and will still warn them. I did tell people in 2007 that when we have our next pandemic that it would be mild. Guess what, I was spot on. When I was interviewed by the BBC, they seemed to be disappointed that I felt that any new strain of Type A flu would not bring Mega Death so they stopped interviewing me and switched to the alarmists. Where on Youtube or BBC archives can we find that interview? Where is the transcript?
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Aug 3, 2010 11:56:00 GMT -8
Oh, a little additional information, the Bird Flu epidemic is not over. It is still killing people in Asia, Africa and Europe. Luckily it has never acquired the capacity to freely transmit between people like ordinary flu. That mutation could come any day now. I have warned people about it in the past and will still warn them. I did tell people in 2007 that when we have our next pandemic that it would be mild. Guess what, I was spot on. When I was interviewed by the BBC, they seemed to be disappointed that I felt that any new strain of Type A flu would not bring Mega Death so they stopped interviewing me and switched to the alarmists. Where on Youtube or BBC archives can we find that interview? Where is the transcript? You might remember that I linked to it years ago in the original Bird Flu thread. It was an over the phone interview on two occasions. When I linked to it, the Title of the post was something about "AztecTalk might become famous." They wanted my opinion because I had become very knowledgeable on the topic. The more I learned, though the more I realized that the likelihood of it acquiring D225G and G158D and becoming a pandemic virus was nill. Something in its genetic structure seemed to preclude those RNA mutations. I am not saying it will not happen, just that the likelihood is rather remote.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Aug 3, 2010 17:58:00 GMT -8
Where on Youtube or BBC archives can we find that interview? Where is the transcript? You might remember that I linked to it years ago in the original Bird Flu thread. It was an over the phone interview on two occasions. When I linked to it, the Title of the post was something about "AztecTalk might become famous." They wanted my opinion because I had become very knowledgeable on the topic. The more I learned, though the more I realized that the likelihood of it acquiring D225G and G158D and becoming a pandemic virus was nill. Something in its genetic structure seemed to preclude those RNA mutations. I am not saying it will not happen, just that the likelihood is rather remote. Or, in other words, it never happened and you cannot offer a link. I mean really Joe; it's incredible how much time you waste trying to get us to assume you're some sort of super-intellect. when in reality we don't really care. You write fun fantasies and we enjoy reading them. Why in the Hell do you feel the need to make us believe those fantasies are reality? We don't care if you were just some average guy who served in the military for however many years, married a pretty woman, raised a bunch of kids and got on with your life. The main problem I have with you is you seem to want us to believe your fairly tales instead of just seeing them as "stories". You are actually a pretty decent writer - I might be able to offer the fiction you offer, but the dialog is something I've never been able to write and that limits me. But please don't expect us to believe your fiction is reality and damn good and sure as Hell don't call me or Stu or any other members of your liar's list "liars" when we call you on your fantasy screeds. =Bob
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Post by joshjones1 on Aug 3, 2010 18:06:07 GMT -8
Where on Youtube or BBC archives can we find that interview? Where is the transcript? You might remember that I linked to it years ago in the original Bird Flu thread. It was an over the phone interview on two occasions. When I linked to it, the Title of the post was something about "AztecTalk might become famous." They wanted my opinion because I had become very knowledgeable on the topic. The more I learned, though the more I realized that the likelihood of it acquiring D225G and G158D and becoming a pandemic virus was nill. Something in its genetic structure seemed to preclude those RNA mutations. I am not saying it will not happen, just that the likelihood is rather remote. It did happen (no BS winner, true stuff). I recall the thread.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Aug 3, 2010 18:34:39 GMT -8
You might remember that I linked to it years ago in the original Bird Flu thread. It was an over the phone interview on two occasions. When I linked to it, the Title of the post was something about "AztecTalk might become famous." They wanted my opinion because I had become very knowledgeable on the topic. The more I learned, though the more I realized that the likelihood of it acquiring D225G and G158D and becoming a pandemic virus was nill. Something in its genetic structure seemed to preclude those RNA mutations. I am not saying it will not happen, just that the likelihood is rather remote. It did happen (no BS winner, true stuff). I recall the thread. That being the case, call Pooh's bluff and offer the link. Or do you accept everything Joe claims on face value, given that Win called Joe out and his response is bull$#!+? =Bob
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Aug 3, 2010 18:36:15 GMT -8
Where on Youtube or BBC archives can we find that interview? Where is the transcript? You might remember that I linked to it years ago in the original Bird Flu thread. It was an over the phone interview on two occasions. When I linked to it, the Title of the post was something about "AztecTalk might become famous." They wanted my opinion because I had become very knowledgeable on the topic. The more I learned, though the more I realized that the likelihood of it acquiring D225G and G158D and becoming a pandemic virus was nill. Something in its genetic structure seemed to preclude those RNA mutations. I am not saying it will not happen, just that the likelihood is rather remote. If you linked it, you should be able to find it. $#!+ or get off the pot. =Bob
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Post by joshjones1 on Aug 3, 2010 18:43:04 GMT -8
It did happen (no BS winner, true stuff). I recall the thread. That being the case, call Pooh's bluff and offer the link. Or do you accept everything Joe claims on face value, given that Win called Joe out and his response is bull$#!+? =Bob I don't care to. I don't give two shits if it's true or not. In all these years, have you ever seen me ONCE co-sign or collaborate on Joe's $#!+? Do I think hes great? Yes! Entertaining? Check! But you dont ever see me confirming his stories, or what not. He is a brilliant man though. I don't make up lies. There was some thread about "uh oh is AztecJoe famous now" or something with the interview, which was hilarious to see, but if you think I am going to spend an hour or so googling to find it, when I doubt you could find it, you have another thought coming, Forsythe. Don't blame me because you were "out of it" at the time probably. But then, I shouldn't be so harsh as I have an incredible memory, and my friends often marvel at the old stories I recall. Live and let live, bunky.
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Post by joshjones1 on Aug 3, 2010 18:49:13 GMT -8
=Bob,
It's so sad to see how you ache from not having any Moderator status.
I can't even laugh at it like I was the other night.
Maybe William will hook you up and give you a "Delete" and "Move thread" button if you ask him nicely.
Man, you loved that position. I heard you even put it on your resume.
Weird!!!
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Post by monty on Aug 4, 2010 11:10:36 GMT -8
I think weshould just have an Aztec Joe Forum, this is Joe's world, he just allows us to spend a little time in it.
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Aug 4, 2010 12:05:14 GMT -8
You might remember that I linked to it years ago in the original Bird Flu thread. It was an over the phone interview on two occasions. When I linked to it, the Title of the post was something about "AztecTalk might become famous." They wanted my opinion because I had become very knowledgeable on the topic. The more I learned, though the more I realized that the likelihood of it acquiring D225G and G158D and becoming a pandemic virus was nill. Something in its genetic structure seemed to preclude those RNA mutations. I am not saying it will not happen, just that the likelihood is rather remote. If you linked it, you should be able to find it. $#!+ or get off the pot. =Bob Dottage Left Boob, it was there and everybody saw it. Though, quite frankly I thought that it was of no importance. At the time, I did not give it any thought, because I did not expect much to come of talking on the phone with somebody in England. I also recommended that they contact Dr. Niman with respect to his editorials. If I remember right, I commented that they really did not need to quote me. You posted above and below that post, Left Boob, so I am quite certain that you saw it. About a day after that, some woman decided that I was Doctor Joe Neubarth and posted to that effect on the Currents Events board. Two weeks after that, Both Dr. Niman and I were banned from the Current Events board because the moderator wanted to get rid of Doctors. That was about the time I came to the conclusion that any Bird Flu outbreak would be mild and posted that on the CE forum. I posted the same observation and was suspended from four flu boards in 24 hours with one of the moderators having the decency to tell me that he could not have me placating the people when fear brings viewership. Such is life. It is all nonsense. Any interview of me had no value, and I do not know if anything with my voice on it was broadcast on BBC radio.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Aug 4, 2010 13:28:37 GMT -8
=Bob, It's so sad to see how you ache from not having any Moderator status. I can't even laugh at it like I was the other night. Maybe William will hook you up and give you a "Delete" and "Move thread" button if you ask him nicely. Man, you loved that position. I heard you even put it on your resume. Weird!!! Sorry, but being a moderator was a total pain in the ass. People complaining to me by PM over every little comment they thought was a slight. And I was doing it under a policy I didn't agree with; namely, no politics and no religion. Hell, if I really wanted power, I'd start my own forum. =Bob
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Aug 4, 2010 15:49:58 GMT -8
It did happen (no BS winner, true stuff). I recall the thread. That being the case, call Pooh's bluff and offer the link. Or do you accept everything Joe claims on face value, given that Win called Joe out and his response is bull$#!+? =Bob Bob, you know that the Aztec Talk 3 board is gone with the ages. I provided a blurb and later some additional commentary. I believe the original link had the man's Email Address and his comments asking me to be available for the interview. I never posted a link to the interview, and never heard anything on BBC radio. I do not have a Short Wave radio, which, I assume, was the only way I would hear his show. I was not interested and felt no great sense of accomplishment. Others were impressed with my commentary and constantly sought my opinion. If I were impressed and thought that being on a British Radio show was important, I would have followed up. I did not, and it is not important to me. I learned an awful lot about Influenza Virus propagation at the time and can carry on a fairly good conversation with virologists. That can make for interesting long airplane rides. I love talking with people on long plane rides and I have made hundreds of them. The best conversation I ever had was with a non believing Jew flying from the East Coast to San Francisco. By the time we arrived in Frisco, he had called his ex wife and wanted her to go to Shabbat services with him the next day which was Saturday. If I somehow got him and his wife back together and both of them back into their religion, I would be very happy. Unfortunately, I never heard from him again. Now that would be important. A BBC talk show is not important.
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Aug 4, 2010 16:06:31 GMT -8
You might remember that I linked to it years ago in the original Bird Flu thread. It was an over the phone interview on two occasions. When I linked to it, the Title of the post was something about "AztecTalk might become famous." They wanted my opinion because I had become very knowledgeable on the topic. The more I learned, though the more I realized that the likelihood of it acquiring D225G and G158D and becoming a pandemic virus was nill. Something in its genetic structure seemed to preclude those RNA mutations. I am not saying it will not happen, just that the likelihood is rather remote. Or, in other words, it never happened and you cannot offer a link. I mean really Joe; it's incredible how much time you waste trying to get us to assume you're some sort of super-intellect. when in reality we don't really care. You write fun fantasies and we enjoy reading them. Why in the Hell do you feel the need to make us believe those fantasies are reality? We don't care if you were just some average guy who served in the military for however many years, married a pretty woman, raised a bunch of kids and got on with your life. The main problem I have with you is you seem to want us to believe your fairly tales instead of just seeing them as "stories". You are actually a pretty decent writer - I might be able to offer the fiction you offer, but the dialog is something I've never been able to write and that limits me. But please don't expect us to believe your fiction is reality and damn good and sure as Hell don't call me or Stu or any other members of your liar's list "liars" when we call you on your fantasy screeds. =Bob Super intellect? It is you who flatter me with that comment. I have never said I was a super intellect. I have said that I will take a competitive IQ test against any of you bragging clowns who is always boasting about how smart YOU are. Every time I run across an Idiot who brags about how smart he is, I challenge him (Like Both you and Stupid Stu) to put your money where your mouth is, $10,000 a point if we both take the same IQ test under the same conditions.) You shitheads always back down and your bragging seems to diminish. I have not seen you Left Boob bragging about how smart you are after you backed down about six years ago. I have never told you what MY IQ is and I have never said I was a genius. I AM very well eductated and I can pick you apart on all of the false information that you constantly bring to this forum, Left Boob. Take southeast Asia. You are a total dunderhead on that topic and you always prove it by not knowing anything about the Society, government, religion and culture of the region. Take for instance not knowing that Bali had Hindu Buddhists on it. As you might remember I told you that I spent several nights on the island and had the company of some beautiful Balinese girls each night. Damn, I was so good looking back then that Beautiful Girls like that just could not resist my temptations. YOu thought that would never happen in an Islamic country. Your ignorance really showed. As far as Fairy Tales. You may believe the story of my life or you can pretend that I never existed. I quite frankly do not care. I have photos to prove who I am and was. I know one thing, if I wrote the story of my life, I could take a lie detector on it and pass with flying colors. I have had the most interesting life a man could ever have. Nobody has had more thrills and excitement than I did for the first seven years out of high school. Now, I am just a senior with a lot of fond memories.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Aug 4, 2010 19:06:01 GMT -8
If you linked it, you should be able to find it. $#!+ or get off the pot. =Bob I remember hearing the interview too. It was linked on the last board on Joe's forum. Well, we know he wrote an SF book based upon a pandemic so it is possible he was interviewed as an author rather than as an "expert". I have no problem with Joe's stories except to the extent that anyone believes them. And quite frankly, it's quite a bit of fun to call him out on his fantasies. BTW, I Googled Joe Neubarth bird flu and found nothing on the BBC interview. Found 3 pages of him posting about it and claiming on some local website forum that he wrote (and I think directed, but I'm not sure of that) training films on NBC warfare shown to kids in boot camp (and was surprisingly polite to everyone on there, although I expect that was due to nobody on there calling him out on anything he posted). I will give Joe credit for being a better fiction writer than I am, mostly because he's capable of writing comedy and that's something I can't do. One of the reasons I only tried a couple of times to write SF is I'm great at description but I suck at dialog. But that aside, he's fun to play with because his responses are always the same. I'm a liar and a drunk. Stu is a liar and was insulted as supposedly "stupid" despite the fact that Stu rose to the rank of Colonel and led troops into Baghdad while Joe never made it past being a junior officer and bailed after 4 years of being one (you are correct, Joe; you did offer your service record to Stu and me and I'm sorry - it wasn't particularly impressive). His line of attack never changes. It's "BOOB" this and that. It's "Stu, you're stupid". I like to be entertained as much as anyone else, but when Joe puts out his bull$#!+ I'm more than happy to troll him because I know I'll always get the same response and because it shows an inability to roll with the punches and adapt to new and changed situations. To tell the truth, there are any number of people on here who are better trolls than Joe - Hell, Pooh is so far above Joe's head that Joe would get nosebleeds if he tried to look at him. A good troll is a sight to be seen and quite frankly, Joe isn't all that good at them because he always unleashes anger and insults instead of just sucking in the person he's trolling - IOW, he engages in fly fishing rather than trolling. Outrage has it's place, as witnessed by my trolls over his comments about Jewish women (with the caveat that I really did find his bull$#!+ offensive), but Joe always offers the same responses instead of trolling back and he assumes that because this or that person responded in the same manner a couple years ago, he'll respond the same way now. Non-Aristotelian logic tells us that the first step to unsanity is assuming new and changed situations are old and unchanged. Joe is the classic example of that. He assumes he can still attack me for being a "drunk", which I'm not, continues to claim he told me 16 or however many years ago that he "urged" me to get psychiatric help, and that I'm a liar. Surely someone who has had books published, even if they were by some vanity press, is capable of offering new insults and trolls. The fact that he can't simply shows that he's in his dotage and his mind, such as it was, is no longer capable of inventive thought. =Bob
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Post by aztecwin on Aug 5, 2010 15:36:17 GMT -8
You may think I "called him out", but that is not what happens. When you are blessed with someone like Joe with that gift of baloney, you must draw him out from time to time. Look at all the great posts since I asked him for a link.
I am so glad he came back.
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Post by Spud on Aug 5, 2010 16:21:53 GMT -8
Now that the bird flu epidemic is over, looks like Joe has shifted his sights to the Bible and the end of the world. Since it would be a shame to have his musings lost amidst the other threads in the Off Topic Forum, can we get him his own Forum? KThx... Spud, you have never liked anything that would make you think. As I have stated, I post to make people think. If you do not like to think, then do not read the posts. It is that simple. Others like them and enjoy a laugh or two or serious introspection once in a while. It is an IQ thing. Your next post worthy of "thinking" will be your FIRST post worthy of thinking. J/K...religion and bird flu just don't provide a lot of mental stimulus for me...start talking M Theory, then we can have fun. I simply was asking the moderator to give you a forum where you can challenge the illuminati of Aztec Talk without all the normal chatter in off-topic. You are quick to lash out which to me shows perhaps a quiet lack of confidence dispite your brash bravado on the board. No matter. When I like to be mentally stimulated, the LAST PLACE ON EARTH I would go is to the Off-topic forums of a sports talk board. Peace Out!
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Aug 5, 2010 16:50:22 GMT -8
You may think I "called him out", but that is not what happens. When you are blessed with someone like Joe with that gift of baloney, you must draw him out from time to time. Look at all the great posts since I asked him for a link. Yeah, but the only problem with it is that he lies on a rather consistent basis and then calls other people liars. He posted a comment not very long after I got out of the hospital stating that I had drunk my way into a stroke. That wasn't true and if I'd written something like that about him, I have no doubt I would have received a PM telling me he was thinking of suing me (Joe has had a penchant for threatening me with litigation over the years (I think he gets off on it). He also claims he told me 16 years ago that I needed psychiatric help and that's nonsense since back in the day we had a pretty collegial relationship when we were both whacking Andrew Jackowitz (who I'm still not convinced wasn't Joe) on the old WAC forum. I have no problem with him offering his fantasies on here; they are a bit entertaining. What I have a problem with is his attacks on people such as Stu, who accomplished far more in his military career than Joe could have ever imagined. And while I know full well that Stu does not need me defending him, Marine officers, as I've written in the past, have been, by far, the most intelligent military officers I've ever met. But aside from that, it's just fun to engage in a war of words with Joe from time to time. He holds his own well, even if he usually shows a lack of imagination in his attacks (the repetitive nature of them as I've pointed out), but he is fun to duel with because he's pretty decent with the written word. Written word dueling keeps my mind sharp and that's a good thing. =Bob
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