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Post by cvtower on Aug 10, 2011 13:25:01 GMT -8
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 10, 2011 14:14:17 GMT -8
Salaries 2012Bartlett, Jason $5.50 Hudson, Orlando $5.50 Options 2012Aaron Harang $5M mutual option ($0.5M buyout) Brad Hawpe $6M mutual option ($1M buyout) Chad Qualls $6M club option ($1.05M buyout) We will not buy out Harang or Hawpe. We will offer Harang arbitration after he buys out, so we get a draft pick. We will not offer Hawpe arbitration if he buys out, he probably won't buy out. We will buy out Qualls and then offer him arbitration if he qualifies for a level 2 free agent. Arbitration ListRichard, Clayton Gregerson, Luke Venable, Will Hundley, Nick Thatcher, Joe Johnson, Rob Headley, Chase Stauffer, Tim Moseley, Dustin Denorfia, Chris Gonzalez, Alberto Neshek, Pat (level 3)
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 10, 2011 14:18:54 GMT -8
Having a viable controllable player at every position (except 2B and SS where we have a veteran under contract for 2012) will allow the Padres to concentrate on one or two postions to get a well above average player.
Guzman, Rizzo, Blanks, and possibly Hawpe, gives the Padres an abundance of first base candidates. One of them with a pitcher may bring back a very good everyday player that we need to upgrade another positon. We need to find a trading partner who has a abundance of outfielders or middle infielders. Think Maybin II - type of trade.
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Post by cvtower on Aug 10, 2011 14:40:31 GMT -8
Hawpe didn't impress before he he got hurt (much like Jim Edmonds before him), and lately Qualls has been bad. I'd be surprised to see any of them back next year
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 10, 2011 14:51:15 GMT -8
Hawpe didn't impress before he he got hurt (much like Jim Edmonds before him), and lately Qualls has been bad. I'd be surprised to see any of them back next year One big difference. Hawpe did start very badly. April .161 .209 .210 .419 But hit much better after that. May .303 .367 .506 .873 He will only cost $5 million ($6M minus $1M buyoyut) and can play first Base or a corner outfield postion. He is left handed and has always hit righties better than lefties. So he is a good candidate for platoon and as the #1 pinch hitter off the bench. He can be valuable - a good bench is something the Padres needed more of this year. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2011 17:56:55 GMT -8
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 11, 2011 7:15:01 GMT -8
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH If you don't want to read about the Padres, there are many other portions of this site that don't have any posts about them. |
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Post by aztecron on Aug 11, 2011 10:56:51 GMT -8
Salaries 2012Bartlett, Jason $5.50 Hudson, Orlando $5.50 Options 2012Aaron Harang $5M mutual option ($0.5M buyout) Brad Hawpe $6M mutual option ($1M buyout) Chad Qualls $6M club option ($1.05M buyout) We will not buy out Harang or Hawpe. We will offer Harang arbitration after he buys out, so we get a draft pick. We will not offer Hawpe arbitration if he buys out, he probably won't buy out. We will buy out Qualls and then offer him arbitration if he qualifies for a level 2 free agent. Arbitration ListRichard, Clayton Gregerson, Luke Venable, Will Hundley, Nick Thatcher, Joe Johnson, Rob Headley, Chase Stauffer, Tim Moseley, Dustin Denorfia, Chris Gonzalez, Alberto Neshek, Pat (level 3) No way do we go with the mutual option with Hawpe. I suspect we buy him out. He just had Tommy John surgery. He's not due back until well into next season. I don't see how we pay him $6 mil next year to miss much of the early season if not till June. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2011 12:41:01 GMT -8
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH If you don't want to read about the Padres, there are many other portions of this site that don't have any posts about them. That entire article is bull$#!+ and so is Jeff Moorad and his investment group. Thank goodness we have Hoyer. Though I wouldn't blame him one bit if he left for greener pastures. Which is about 27 other teams in the MLB. |
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 11, 2011 13:19:34 GMT -8
If you don't want to read about the Padres, there are many other portions of this site that don't have any posts about them. That entire article is bull$#!+ and so is Jeff Moorad and his investment group. Thank goodness we have Hoyer. Though I wouldn't blame him one bit if he left for greener pastures. Which is about 27 other teams in the MLB. Wouldn't it be nice to have an owner like Detroit has? Tiger Payroll2011: $106,953,000 2010: $133,995,400 2009: $115,085,145 2008: $137,685,196 2007: $ 95,180,369 2006: $ 82,612,866 2005: $ 69,092,000 2004: $ 46,832,000 ($ 55,384,833 = Padres 2004)
He is the founder and owner of Little Caesars Pizza. We need someone with more money than sense. |
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Post by ragin'aztec on Aug 11, 2011 17:33:28 GMT -8
Yes. More money than sense. And a win-at-all-costs attitude.
We need Mark Cuban.
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Post by aztecbruce on Aug 11, 2011 18:41:57 GMT -8
Yes. More money than sense. And a win-at-all-costs attitude. We need Mark Cuban. An owner of a Pro Franchise should have 1 goal.... WIN THE FREAKIN CHAMPIONSHIP!!! Spend the money on good players will increase wins and that will increase attendance and that will increase revenue and that will increase the overall value of the franchise. |
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 12, 2011 7:30:25 GMT -8
Yes. More money than sense. And a win-at-all-costs attitude. We need Mark Cuban. Hell I'd settle for either of two things: 1. A payroll that more closely matches revenues. 2. Minor-league prices for a minor-league product. But this doubling and tripling of ticket and parking prices while cutting payroll to damn near the very bottom of MLB is just a bunch of BS. You don't really mean payroll, you mean operating expenses. There is a lot more money spent than just payroll.
Ticket prices have gone down significantly over the past two years. My season tickets are cheaper now than 3 years ago. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2011 7:39:03 GMT -8
Yes. More money than sense. And a win-at-all-costs attitude. We need Mark Cuban. But this doubling and tripling of ticket and parking prices while cutting payroll to damn near the very bottom of MLB is just a bunch of BS. I worked for the Padres ticket office this past season and they certainly haven't raised any ticket or parking prices. |
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Post by 1611Luginbill on Aug 12, 2011 18:01:26 GMT -8
So the grand payroll increase will put the payroll by 2016 at 2006 levels?
Yawn. Might as well change the name to the Clippers.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2011 2:12:24 GMT -8
Lies lies lies yeah!!!!!! Seriously, this organization sucks. And, doesn't the douche-bag John Moores still own part of this BS organization?? I mean come on!!! How many f-ing years does it take to get divorced?? isn't it obviously he used the divorce so he didn't have to put any money into the team. And BTW- way to get rid of Adams so the Pads can lose every game in the 8th inning  |
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Post by OfficialAztecINSIDER on Aug 16, 2011 7:54:26 GMT -8
Terrible organization.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Aug 19, 2011 13:43:50 GMT -8
Moorad should NEVER have been allowed to buy this team. He doesn't have the money. We have what may be the poorest owner in the league, condemning this organization to bad to mediocre baseball for the indefinite future.
The payroll should be at least $80 million. Only that way can the Pads keep some of their own talent, and maybe actually sign a legit major league free agent each year (not just a journeyman who can't start regularly anywhere else).
This organization sucks. It's a fraud.
I will not go to a Padres game until the payroll is at $80 million or more (in 2011 dollars). Until this ownership shows a REAL commitment to winning, and winning every year (in a legit attempt to WIN the World Series every year), I'm just not going to another Padres game.
What a joke of an ownership group. Troy Aikman should be embarrassed to be even a small part of it.
The goal should be to WIN the World Series every year. They sacrificed last year (and last year's team played over their heads until the August collapse), they sacrificed this year and next, and we still don't see the core of a World Series team anywhere down the line. Which means this ownership/management group isn't really trying to win the World Series every year.
Imagine if the Red Sox or the Phillies gave up on a season before it began! Their fans would burn the management's offices down!
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Post by aardvark on Sept 14, 2011 9:03:54 GMT -8
Hawpe didn't impress before he he got hurt (much like Jim Edmonds before him), and lately Qualls has been bad. I'd be surprised to see any of them back next year One big difference. Hawpe did start very badly. April .161 .209 .210 .419 But hit much better after that. May .303 .367 .506 .873 He will only cost $5 million ($6M minus $1M buyoyut) and can play first Base or a corner outfield postion. He is left handed and has always hit righties better than lefties. So he is a good candidate for platoon and as the #1 pinch hitter off the bench. He can be valuable - a good bench is something the Padres needed more of this year. Hawpe is gone next season. |
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Post by aardvark on Sept 14, 2011 9:50:51 GMT -8
Moorad should NEVER have been allowed to buy this team. He doesn't have the money. We have what may be the poorest owner in the league, condemning this organization to bad to mediocre baseball for the indefinite future. The payroll should be at least $80 million. Only that way can the Pads keep some of their own talent, and maybe actually sign a legit major league free agent each year (not just a journeyman who can't start regularly anywhere else). This organization sucks. It's a fraud. I will not go to a Padres game until the payroll is at $80 million or more (in 2011 dollars). Until this ownership shows a REAL commitment to winning, and winning every year (in a legit attempt to WIN the World Series every year), I'm just not going to another Padres game. What a joke of an ownership group. Troy Aikman should be embarrassed to be even a small part of it. The goal should be to WIN the World Series every year. They sacrificed last year (and last year's team played over their heads until the August collapse), they sacrificed this year and next, and we still don't see the core of a World Series team anywhere down the line. Which means this ownership/management group isn't really trying to win the World Series every year. Imagine if the Red Sox or the Phillies gave up on a season before it began! Their fans would burn the management's offices down! You can blame Bud (Lite) Selig and MLB for allowing Moorad and his group to "buy" the Padres. After all, MLB allowed Frank McCourt to buy the Dodgers, and we have all seen what a FINE job Frank has done with the Dodgers. |
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