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Post by aztecwin on Aug 16, 2009 16:11:12 GMT -8
Now this is very INTERESTING!!!!!!!! Two Presidents Meet the Marines - View Before it's pulled There's a 'message' in this video. You might want to view it ASAP as it's not likely to last very long on YouTube. www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIHz5tevLAw |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 16, 2009 20:42:55 GMT -8
Devastating! Just devastating! Barack Obama represents a rather small segment of the American people who, largely, distrust and disrespect our military. They are quick to assume the worst about our servicemen and women, those noble citizens who take on the toughest jobs imaginable and do those jobs without fanfare or complaint.
Obama, though he may not personally feel this way, in large measure represents those Americans who are just a tiny bit ashamed of their country and wish it could be "transformed."
And the Marines know it. They cannot be fooled.
Among other reasons to wish someone else were the POTUS is this: The President is Commander-in-Chief of all U.S. military forces. It is regrettable that we have someone in that office who, rightly, does not have and may never have the respect of the troops. Those troops will do what they are told to the best of their ability, but I would feel better were they to have confidence in their commander-in-chief.
Right now they have no such confidence.
AzWm
PS: Here is a corollary to the video linked in this thread. On TV (sure, it was Fox, you don't think the others would do this, do you?) they showed videos of how the D.C. press corps reacted when Bush came into the briefing room, and then how those same reporters reacted when Obama came in.
When Bush entered, the reporters sat quietly and gave no indication that anything of interest had happened. When Obama came in, they all shot to their feet in an enthusiastic show of respect.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Aug 17, 2009 8:00:31 GMT -8
Ah, the Mutt and Jeff of the Mesa strike again. What's the context, Pooh. Bush was in Ambar, but where was Obama speaking? Was it a more formal setting. Appears that it was.
=Bob
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Post by aztecwin on Aug 17, 2009 9:31:57 GMT -8
Ah, the Mutt and Jeff of the Mesa strike again. What's the context, Pooh. Bush was in Ambar, but where was Obama speaking? Was it a more formal setting. Appears that it was. =Bob The settings were different, but the presence of muted applause should give even you a clue. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 17, 2009 10:48:20 GMT -8
Ah, the Mutt and Jeff of the Mesa strike again. What's the context, Pooh. Bush was in Ambar, but where was Obama speaking? Was it a more formal setting. Appears that it was. =Bob Note three things. First, the CNN (I think) reporter actually remarked on the chilly reception the POTUS received. Second, just because Bush was visiting the troops in Iraq would not automatically require the Marines to treat him in a manner similar to the way teenagers greeted an on-stage appearance of Frank Sinatra, Elvis Presley, or the Beatles in their prime. Third, no matter the setting (which, I think was Quantico, not the National Cathedral), the Marines would not have treated the entrance of Obama as the reporters treated Bush if their opinion of him were more positive. AzWm |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Aug 18, 2009 17:01:26 GMT -8
Ah, the Mutt and Jeff of the Mesa strike again. What's the context, Pooh. Bush was in Ambar, but where was Obama speaking? Was it a more formal setting. Appears that it was. =Bob The settings were different, but the presence of muted applause should give even you a clue. Not necessarily, because you can't tell me the context and you clearly don't know whether or not the troops were told to hold down the applause. Has the applause been just as muted on every other occasion when Obama spoke to the troops? This is the problem with you. You believe anything that's tossed at you that disses a Democratic President and you never try to dig deeper into it to discover if it's a true representation. Apparently that sheepskin you got from SDSU didn't have many social science classes behind it. =Bob |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Aug 18, 2009 17:05:47 GMT -8
Ah, the Mutt and Jeff of the Mesa strike again. What's the context, Pooh. Bush was in Ambar, but where was Obama speaking? Was it a more formal setting. Appears that it was. =Bob Note three things. First, the CNN (I think) reporter actually remarked on the chilly reception the POTUS received. Second, just because Bush was visiting the troops in Iraq would not automatically require the Marines to treat him in a manner similar to the way teenagers greeted an on-stage appearance of Frank Sinatra, Elvis Presley, or the Beatles in their prime. Third, no matter the setting (which, I think was Quantico, not the National Cathedral), the Marines would not have treated the entrance of Obama as the reporters treated Bush if their opinion of him were more positive. AzWm None of which are decent arguments because you don't know what the troops were told before Obama's appearance. I would also ask the date of Bush's appearance. Was it just after "mission accomplished"? Would they have cheered like that in 2008 after multiple tours and stop loss? Hell, for that matter, where they regular troops or members of the National Guard? See Pooh, that's what's known as "critical thinking". You are very bright, but when you post nonsense like this on here, you are not engaging in critical thinking. =Bob |
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Post by aztecwin on Aug 18, 2009 17:07:44 GMT -8
The settings were different, but the presence of muted applause should give even you a clue. Not necessarily, because you can't tell me the context and you clearly don't know whether or not the troops were told to hold down the applause. Has the applause been just as muted on every other occasion when Obama spoke to the troops? This is the problem with you. You believe anything that's tossed at you that disses a Democratic President and you never try to dig deeper into it to discover if it's a true representation. Apparently that sheepskin you got from SDSU didn't have many social science classes behind it. =Bob First off, the visual should show you the true story. Obama did receive a luke warm reception and applause from some people. That would indicate that whatever happened was sponteanous. Second, my "sheepskin" is not from SDSU. I support the Aztecs and AAF at a pretty good level. My money and kids went to SDSU and got SDSU "sheepskins". |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Aug 19, 2009 17:37:36 GMT -8
Not necessarily, because you can't tell me the context and you clearly don't know whether or not the troops were told to hold down the applause. Has the applause been just as muted on every other occasion when Obama spoke to the troops? This is the problem with you. You believe anything that's tossed at you that disses a Democratic President and you never try to dig deeper into it to discover if it's a true representation. Apparently that sheepskin you got from SDSU didn't have many social science classes behind it. =Bob First off, the visual should show you the true story. Obama did receive a luke warm reception and applause from some people. That would indicate that whatever happened was sponteanous. Second, my "sheepskin" is not from SDSU. I support the Aztecs and AAF at a pretty good level. My money and kids went to SDSU and got SDSU "sheepskins". Doesn't indicate anything of the sort. I'd be asking the same questions if the tables were turned. =Bob |
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Post by aztecwin on Aug 20, 2009 9:09:49 GMT -8
First off, the visual should show you the true story. Obama did receive a luke warm reception and applause from some people. That would indicate that whatever happened was sponteanous. Second, my "sheepskin" is not from SDSU. I support the Aztecs and AAF at a pretty good level. My money and kids went to SDSU and got SDSU "sheepskins". Doesn't indicate anything of the sort. I'd be asking the same questions if the tables were turned. =Bob I guess what you see what you want to. The video is self explanatory to anyone not just thrilled by the mere sight of "The One". |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Aug 20, 2009 17:48:20 GMT -8
Doesn't indicate anything of the sort. I'd be asking the same questions if the tables were turned. =Bob I guess what you see what you want to. The video is self explanatory to anyone not just thrilled by the mere sight of "The One". Ah, you finally offered an operative phrase. It would be self explanatory to anyone who, (to paraphrase) doesn't like Obama. Sorry Pooh, but you have placed yourself in a logic trap. =Bob |
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Post by aztecwin on Aug 21, 2009 10:08:10 GMT -8
I guess what you see what you want to. The video is self explanatory to anyone not just thrilled by the mere sight of "The One". Ah, you finally offered an operative phrase. It would be self explanatory to anyone who, (to paraphrase) doesn't like Obama. Sorry Pooh, but you have placed yourself in a logic trap. =Bob Hardly! Go back and look at the video again without your rose colored Obamaview glasses. Wait a decent period of time for the thrill running up your leg subsides and then try to be neutral in your observation. Hard, I know, but at least try. |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Aug 21, 2009 17:24:59 GMT -8
Ah, you finally offered an operative phrase. It would be self explanatory to anyone who, (to paraphrase) doesn't like Obama. Sorry Pooh, but you have placed yourself in a logic trap. =Bob Hardly! Go back and look at the video again without your rose colored Obamaview glasses. Wait a decent period of time for the thrill running up your leg subsides and then try to be neutral in your observation. Hard, I know, but at least try. Give it up, Pooh. I mean really - you lecturing anyone on being "neutral"  You've lost this argument and at this point all you're doing is attempting to hang on. =Bob |
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Post by aztecwin on Aug 22, 2009 6:17:21 GMT -8
Hardly! Go back and look at the video again without your rose colored Obamaview glasses. Wait a decent period of time for the thrill running up your leg subsides and then try to be neutral in your observation. Hard, I know, but at least try. Give it up, Pooh. I mean really - you lecturing anyone on being "neutral" You've lost this argument and at this point all you're doing is attempting to hang on. =Bob Here is laughing at your sorry attempt! Look at the video!!! |
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You've lost this argument and at this point all you're doing is attempting to hang on.