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Post by laaztec on May 15, 2024 16:19:30 GMT -8
If UNC, Clemson and Florida St leave do they try to back fill with western schools to help out Calford and SMU?
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Post by namssa on May 15, 2024 17:00:00 GMT -8
There is talk the BIG12 will poach the ACC if those schools leave. The question then is who is left out. Those that don't make it could create a best of the rest conference.
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Post by laaztec on May 15, 2024 17:10:28 GMT -8
There is talk the BIG12 will poach the ACC if those schools leave. The question then is who is left out. Those that don't make it could create a best of the rest conference. The article says that the Big 12 has reduced revenue from the recent expansion and they might not want to take another revenue hit. |
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Post by Den60 on May 15, 2024 17:40:54 GMT -8
If the ACC loses no more than 4 full members they will survive and backfill.
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Post by Gundo on May 15, 2024 17:53:29 GMT -8
If the ACC loses no more than 4 full members they will survive and backfill. The ACC can backfill the losses, add in western schools PAC/MWC and still call itself the ACC (All Coast Conference) |
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Post by rednblk on May 15, 2024 19:05:56 GMT -8
If the ACC loses no more than 4 full members they will survive and backfill. The ACC can backfill the losses, add in western schools PAC/MWC and still call itself the ACC (All Coast Conference) Trademark it now. |
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Post by aztecfanatic on May 15, 2024 20:00:53 GMT -8
I wonder if any (or all) of the AztecMesa geniuses that constantly state their opinions as fact ever go back and see that what they declared with great confidence
in fact did NOT happen. I know, I know --- this is a message board and as such is for opinions but; maybe, just maybe say: the way I see it or from my point of view or something like that. I get a kick out of the "this is how it will happen crowd" (and sometimes they are dead right!)
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Post by chris92065 on May 15, 2024 22:00:07 GMT -8
Yes.
Fsu and clemson go
Then
Notre dame leaves
Miami leaves
Which opens the flood gates
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Post by standiego on May 15, 2024 22:07:42 GMT -8
doesn't ESPN going forward have the Tv rights to both ACC and Big 12 - so what would they prefer happens with the ACC
what TV markets / do really well for the ACC ?
that could be the major question would be more profitable for ESPN
Florida State and Clemson - do they have a large amount of TV Viewers and other ACC schools
Now it is money that is the driving force for College Sports
NIL I say more $$
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Post by Boise Aztec on May 16, 2024 7:44:33 GMT -8
Yes. Fsu and clemson go Then Notre dame leaves Miami leaves Which opens the flood gates It is pretty clear that the only schools that are “wanted” by the SEC/B1G are 1. Clemson 2. FSU 3. UNC 4. Virginia 5. Miami The B1G wants UNC and Virginia and the SEC wants FSU and Clemson… and maybe Miami… if they take Miami they would have to find a 4th… not sure they do it… Remaining Schools Miami Duke NC State Wake Forrest Louisville GA Tech Pittsburgh Boston College SMU Cal Stanford Virginia Tech Syracuse Assuming the B1G and SEC don’t want these schools, then the only other choice is the B12, and they have passed on Cal and Stanford already… Possibilities… 1. B12 takes 2-4 schools 2. ACC stays as is 3. ACC adds 4 schools in the Pacific Time Zone to go with Cal and Stanford. 4. B12 and ACC merge and create divisions |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on May 16, 2024 7:46:06 GMT -8
The cynic in me thinks that Duke is well aware of the jenga tower and is why Coach K is suggesting an ACC Big East Merger. I have to say there is a scenario where the following teams bolt.
Clemson - SEC
UNC - Big
NC State - Big (Package Deal)
Miami - SEC
VaTech - Big
Virgina - Big
Florida State - SEC
Leaving these teams to merge in the Big East for Football and Basketball
BC
Duke
Wake
Louisville
GTech
Pitt
Syracuse
ND Basketball only
UCONN would be your 8th member football member. And this would make 20 BE basketball members.
Would the BE take in Cal, Stanford, and SMU? Maybe if the BE could attract back Cincinatti and WV. I thought that Coach K was talking crazy, but this may be the way forward.
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Post by Boise Aztec on May 16, 2024 10:04:09 GMT -8
The cynic in me thinks that Duke is well aware of the jenga tower and is why Coach K is suggesting an ACC Big East Merger. I have to say there is a scenario where the following teams bolt. Clemson - SEC UNC - Big NC State - Big (Package Deal) Miami - SEC VaTech - Big Virgina - Big Florida State - SEC Leaving these teams to merge in the Big East for Football and Basketball BC Duke Wake Louisville GTech Pitt Syracuse ND Basketball only UCONN would be your 8th member football member. And this would make 20 BE basketball members. Would the BE take in Cal, Stanford, and SMU? Maybe if the BE could attract back Cincinatti and WV. I thought that Coach K was talking crazy, but this may be the way forward. Was Coach K on a podcast? |
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Post by sdmotohead on May 16, 2024 10:11:01 GMT -8
Will the ACC fall apart? Well after the P12 debacle, anything is possible.
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Post by hoobs on May 16, 2024 11:05:17 GMT -8
Yes. Fsu and clemson go Then Notre dame leaves Miami leaves Which opens the flood gates It is pretty clear that the only schools that are “wanted” by the SEC/B1G are 1. Clemson 2. FSU 3. UNC 4. Virginia 5. Miami The B1G wants UNC and Virginia and the SEC wants FSU and Clemson… and maybe Miami… if they take Miami they would have to find a 4th… not sure they do it… Remaining Schools Miami Duke NC State Wake Forrest Louisville GA Tech Pittsburgh Boston College SMU Cal Stanford Virginia Tech Syracuse Assuming the B1G and SEC don’t want these schools, then the only other choice is the B12, and they have passed on Cal and Stanford already… Possibilities… 1. B12 takes 2-4 schools 2. ACC stays as is 3. ACC adds 4 schools in the Pacific Time Zone to go with Cal and Stanford. 4. B12 and ACC merge and create divisions I see something like this being possible: Potential ACC - EastMiami (Big12 target?)Duke (Big12 target?)NC State Wake Forrest Louisville GA Tech Pittsburgh Boston College Virginia Tech Syracuse Potential ACC - WestSMU Cal Stanford SDSU UNLV Colorado State Oregon State Washington State (is probably less attractive than Oregon State, could get left behind?)Tulane But it's all just an exercise in throwing mud at a wall right now... lots of dominoes to fall |
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Post by mactec on May 16, 2024 11:18:55 GMT -8
No, it will just be a second tier power conference.
SEC > BIG10 >>>>>>>>>> BIG12 / ACC
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Post by docmm on May 16, 2024 11:19:38 GMT -8
While I will not let my P5 hopes get up again until names are signed on dotted lines, I don't doubt that prospective new leagues would look more favorably on G5 SDSU as a conference partner rather than a few of the present P5 teams that are in P5 conferences.
Some of the teams that may include are Wake Forest, Boston College, Georgia Tech and Virginia Tech. I know most of these schools have great athletic traditions but most of that has been in the past. Boston and Atlanta both have a lot of TV eyes but those areas also have other football schools and sports that take over some of those eyes.
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Post by FULL_MONTY on May 16, 2024 11:52:14 GMT -8
The cynic in me thinks that Duke is well aware of the jenga tower and is why Coach K is suggesting an ACC Big East Merger. I have to say there is a scenario where the following teams bolt. Clemson - SEC UNC - Big NC State - Big (Package Deal) Miami - SEC VaTech - Big Virgina - Big Florida State - SEC Leaving these teams to merge in the Big East for Football and Basketball BC Duke Wake Louisville GTech Pitt Syracuse ND Basketball only UCONN would be your 8th member football member. And this would make 20 BE basketball members. Would the BE take in Cal, Stanford, and SMU? Maybe if the BE could attract back Cincinatti and WV. I thought that Coach K was talking crazy, but this may be the way forward. Was Coach K on a podcast? Instead of further following the dictates of football, Krzyzewski has another idea. “We have a conference that in a lot of ways wants to split,” he says. “I’d like to see us talk to the Big East and say, ‘Let’s form the best football-basketball conference.’ Not everyone has to play football. There’s only one conference that thinks about basketball every day of the year—that’s [commissioner] Val Ackerman and the Big East. If you’re a partner with them, that’s a really good thing.” |
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Post by Gundo on May 16, 2024 15:34:33 GMT -8
Yes. Fsu and clemson go Then Notre dame leaves Miami leaves Which opens the flood gates The immediate targets for the P4. Big 10 ACC targets: FSU, Clemson, Notre Dame, UNC, Duke, Virigina, SEC ACC targets: FSU, Clemson, Miami, UNC, VA Tech |
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Post by standiego on May 22, 2024 10:14:33 GMT -8
Believe ESPN can in February 2025 decide if it wishes to continue it's TV deal with the ACC - of course a lot could depend on what happens to FSU and others schools trying to leave the ACC
ESPN is already paying for the SEC and Big 12
The key for Networks is and has been for a while what Schools provide a bump in their TV Viewers - so TV Viewers become more important then adding the higher quality teams
TV Networks will also be announcing their upcoming schedules - with Evening games on some nights including some Friday Nights and or Saturday nights - look for some of the West Coast former PAC schools to be a major part of that
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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on May 22, 2024 10:48:26 GMT -8
There is talk the BIG12 will poach the ACC if those schools leave. The question then is who is left out. Those that don't make it could create a best of the rest conference. Big 12 and acc will now need to find an additional 20m a year to pay students and deal with decreased NCAA payments. They are looking at a huge budget hit. Unless ESPN/ fox opens their check book I am not sure they can afford to expand |
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