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Post by haleiwaaztec on Jun 12, 2010 8:22:02 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2010 11:26:17 GMT -8
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Post by haleiwaaztec on Jun 12, 2010 12:43:31 GMT -8
Hmmm, if Kansas goes to the Pac 10, I'm not sure if I see the MWC taking the rest of the lame duck Big 12. K-State, Iowa St, Missouri & Baylor don't really sound all that good w/o Kansas.
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Post by sdsuphilip on Jun 12, 2010 12:47:41 GMT -8
Hmmm, if Kansas goes to the Pac 10, I'm not sure if I see the MWC taking the rest of the lame duck Big 12. K-State, Iowa St, Missouri & Baylor don't really sound all that good w/o Kansas. Would KU even be allowed to go without KSU? If so I wouldn't be against KSU and Missouri both bring solid money, 2 good bball programs, and a solid football program, that gets us to 12
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2010 13:15:12 GMT -8
I actually think that column is a POS. It figures that the writer is in Dallas. He blames everybody but UT for breakup of the Big 12 when if anybody is to blame for its demise, it's the Longhorns. It wasn't enough for UT to be earning more money than God and to be challenging for the national championship almost annually in football, basketball AND baseball. Nope, they want more. It's been asked what Texas could possibly gain by being in the Pac that UT doesn't already have in the Big 12. The answer is an improved academic reputation. Can't blame them for that but in so doing, Kansas and Missouri and to a lesser extent KSU are being thrown under the bus. (Through no real fault of its own, ISU is a dinosaur and Baylor's couple dozen tiddlywinks championships matter to how many people?) Rather than working behind the scenes to force everybody to go with them, couldn't Texas have achieved that by simply going to the Big Ten with aTm? I think so. However, mark my words. The Pac deal is going to allow Texas to have the same kind of inequitable TV share the Longhorns have always had in the Big 12 whereas the Big Ten wouldn't allow that, even as much as the Big Ten wanted UT. Good for the Big Ten, I say.
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Post by aztecpaulg on Jun 12, 2010 15:38:25 GMT -8
I'm not sure what's going to happen ... like everyone, I'm holding my breath until UT decides to leave the Big XII. If they have a change of heart and stay, Utah and TCU are going will replace CU and Nebraska...if UT leaves as expected, the remaining teams are going to try and poach teams from Conference USA, the WAC, and the MWC. If it stays together the Big XII is going to receive 10 million from each team leaving the conference. That's a large sum to split a dozen ways. Plus, I read the Big XII tv deal won't be up for 6 years. Does the TV network that signed them have to honor the contract even though the conference is weaker? If so, there will be lots of schools trying to get a share of all that money or so I imagine.
The five remaining schools plus 7 new school would get BCS money until 2012 and if they have a good showing in 2012, who knows.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2010 16:01:15 GMT -8
Report: Mountain West eyes KU, Mizzou We can "eye" them all we want. Do they want any part of us? I hope so, but I doubt it. I doubt that the Big 12 is just gonna fall apart. They can easily find five or six schools starting with BYU, TCU, and AFA. You sound like 50% of TCU fans. And 0% of the many pundits who are speaking about this.
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Post by mightymightyaztecs on Jun 12, 2010 16:47:48 GMT -8
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Post by dgolf on Jun 12, 2010 17:11:33 GMT -8
Here's another scenario..MWC Faithful think about this....the conferences are making their moves. Colorado leaves big 12, to go to pac 10... nebraska goes to big 10...Mwc adds boise st. and lets wyoming & air force go...big 12 lets iowa st and missouri go. The mountain west should merge with big 12 and have a Super Conference with two divisions west, southwest or north and south, whatever you want to call them.
West
bsu byu colo st n mex sdsu tcu unlv utah
Southwest
ut ou tx tec tx am osu baylor kan k st
If we let teams like tex, ou,tex am, tx tec, osu etc. go to the pac 10, were setting ourselves up for the same thing we currently have. If we dont do this, other conferences are going to realign and the mwc could get left out in the wind... Mwc commissioner should make a move! This could be great for SDSU! This will be a great football, basketbal & baseball conference...Yahooo! Get it out there!
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Post by mightymightyaztecs on Jun 12, 2010 17:17:37 GMT -8
Well put yourself in their shoes. They've been playing the likes of Oklahoma and Nebraska for decades. Then, recently, they were led to believe that they were getting invited into the most prestigious athletic/academic conferences in the country. Now they're supposed to be happy to be playing Wyoming and Colorado State? They're supposed to be proud to be associated with some schools with very poor academic reputations? Put yourself in my shoes, f x x x MIZZOU. They were relevant in football for all of one season with Chase Daniels and their basketball team is middle of the pack. f x x x MIZZOU.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2010 17:27:48 GMT -8
A poster on their board is actually saying Missouri should come to the MWC if our conference will give them the kind of TV deal that the Big 12 has been giving Texas. Agreed. **** those guys and the ego-inflated horse they're trying to ride in on.
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Post by monty on Jun 12, 2010 18:09:22 GMT -8
Well put yourself in their shoes. They've been playing the likes of Oklahoma and Nebraska for decades. Then, recently, they were led to believe that they were getting invited into the most prestigious athletic/academic conferences in the country. Now they're supposed to be happy to be playing Wyoming and Colorado State? They're supposed to be proud to be associated with some schools with very poor academic reputations? The myth of the great academic reputation of Missouri is just that, a myth - rankings tell a different story and they would be nestled among the top 4-5 schools of the conference (depending on if Utah is around)
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Post by goaztecs on Jun 12, 2010 20:19:36 GMT -8
This article doesn't sound good. Sounds like the Big 12 wants to add two more schools. We will see soon.....
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Post by HollywoodAztec on Jun 12, 2010 20:45:22 GMT -8
Hmmm, if Kansas goes to the Pac 10, I'm not sure if I see the MWC taking the rest of the lame duck Big 12. K-State, Iowa St, Missouri & Baylor don't really sound all that good w/o Kansas. These schools have certainly benefited from BcS money so I'm sure their overall academic programs and athletic facilities are better than some of the expansion candidates often mentioned from the WAC (Fresno, Nevada) and CUSA (Houston, SMU and UTEP).
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Post by zurac315 on Jun 12, 2010 21:00:42 GMT -8
Well put yourself in their shoes. They've been playing the likes of Oklahoma and Nebraska for decades. Then, recently, they were led to believe that they were getting invited into the most prestigious athletic/academic conferences in the country. Now they're supposed to be happy to be playing Wyoming and Colorado State? They're supposed to be proud to be associated with some schools with very poor academic reputations? Put yourself in my shoes, f x x x MIZZOU. They were relevant in football for all of one season with Chase Daniels and their basketball team is middle of the pack. f x x x MIZZOU. THIS HAS TO BE ONE OF THE GREATEST POST EVER ;D
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Post by HollywoodAztec on Jun 12, 2010 21:03:51 GMT -8
Report: Mountain West eyes KU, Mizzou We can "eye" them all we want. Do they want any part of us? I hope so, but I doubt it. I doubt that the Big 12 is just gonna fall apart. They can easily find five or six schools starting with BYU, TCU, and AFA. I think we should finally put this idea to rest that if the Big XII is left with 5 schools, their league ceases to exist. Consequently, they cannot "expand." If the Big XII is to expand, they must do so before the Texas-led group bolts for the PAC10. Despite what most college fans often say, switching leagues isn't as easy as we all think. BYU, TCU and AFA will have to compare and contrast the advantages and disadvantages of leaving a nascent league and joining a weakening conference. Since money is essentially what's driving these realignments, any MWC school considering to join an altered BigXII must factor in the revenue they'll receive after ESPN renegotiates its contract. Will it be significantly more money in comparison to an expanded MWC12/14/16 after MWC renegotiates its contracts with its tv partners?
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