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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 5, 2010 11:45:01 GMT -8
I am surprised that Vista had that much trouble with Mira Mesa. I was told that Mira Mesa might have been over rated based on how they got pushed around in their scrimmage with VC. They didn't have much trouble with Mira Mesa at all. If not for one blown coverage and a 67 yard TD pass the game would have been 21-7. Vista shot themselves in the foot a few times as well, otherwise they might have scored 35.
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Post by AztecTom on Sept 17, 2010 22:02:13 GMT -8
***Shocker Alert*** #1 Vista rolls s#!++y UC 52-17.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 18, 2010 7:00:33 GMT -8
The kids playing for University City were just outmanned and outclassed. But you know What? They never quit. They kept playing hard, and they managed to score two TD's against Vista's backups in the 2nd half because of that.
They've got a couple good QB's (one a decent passer, the other a good running QB - they rotate them), a couple of good WR's, and a good RB. Unfortunately, that's about all they've got that's good.
This was, basically, a live scrimmage for the Panthers. The real game was over at halftime (45-3). Vista came out after halftime with their backups, and by midway through the 3rd quarter a lot of Vista's 3rd stringers were in the game. (Both coaches also agreed to just let the clock run in the 2nd half.)
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Post by lostcoast on Sept 18, 2010 13:49:18 GMT -8
My cousin coaches at UC, he said they were really hurting for size and athletic kids. I know they don't have a whole lot to work with this year.
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Post by AztecTom on Oct 1, 2010 20:57:47 GMT -8
Looks like Vista just gets by O'side tonight.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 2, 2010 6:52:44 GMT -8
Looks like Vista just gets by O'side tonight. Yes and no. Stefan McClure made a hard tackle and got a stinger in his right shoulder and had to leave the game for a play. That play was the 50+ yard TD pass for Oceanside. The receiver was the one that McClure had been covering. If McClure is out there there's very little chance that Oceanside would have completed that pass, let alone scored. Vista owned the second half up until that pass. It changed the momentum of the game, but Vista came up big on defense on Oceanside's last series. Vista's coaching staff actually anticipated that trick play that Oceanside ran on 4th and goal, the players stuck with their assignments, and Stefan McClure made the game sealing INT. It was a great game - back and forth in the first half and then an exciting finish. Oceanside had the size, Vista had the speed. It was an interesting game from that standpoint. Vista's line really did a good job of opening holes in the 3rd quarter. I've got to go back and listen to our webcast. My voice was shot after the game.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Oct 2, 2010 9:54:00 GMT -8
Vista H.S. is a good example of a strong football PROGRAM. That means, year after year, good coaches, motivated players, and strong fan support. Sure, they have an occasional down year, but even then the community supports the team.
Same thing happens at the college level. Or can happen.
AzWm
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Post by enriquesdsualum on Oct 3, 2010 11:19:38 GMT -8
Oh so close to yet another CIF Championship last year - if not for a dislocated kneecap to Stefan McClure on the third play of the game they may have won that one. I know... If Jefferson would have been in the entire game instead of only the first qtr. Jefferson is starting for top ten Oklahoma this year and playing real well! Losing McClure was huge but so was losing Jefferson.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 3, 2010 11:52:51 GMT -8
Oh so close to yet another CIF Championship last year - if not for a dislocated kneecap to Stefan McClure on the third play of the game they may have won that one. I know... If Jefferson would have been in the entire game instead of only the first qtr. Jefferson is starting for top ten Oklahoma this year and playing real well! Losing McClure was huge but so was losing Jefferson. I'm sure it was to a point, but they didn't miss a beat with his replacement. There is no replacement for McClure on offense or defense. He's the go to guy as a receiver, and he's the shut down corner. Without him it's much more of a struggle. They did find some answers in the 2nd half, but still really missed McClure big time. He's a human highlight reel. You see him each and every week on the PPR for a reason. We'll see how the season plays out, but so far Vista is doing very well - and Stefan McClure has been a HUGE part of that.
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Post by enriquesdsualum on Oct 3, 2010 13:28:32 GMT -8
There is no replacement for McClure on offense or defense. He's the go to guy as a receiver, and he's the shut down corner. Without him it's much more of a struggle. They did find some answers in the 2nd half, but still really missed McClure big time. He's a human highlight reel. You see him each and every week on the PPR for a reason. Jefferson was on PPR each and every week last year too. And on national TV with huge hits. You keep on insisting that Jefferson made no difference in the game last year. I will do the same thing you do - If Jefferson was still in the game the outcome could possibly of been a lot worse for Vista. Jefferson was a human highlight reel last year on both offense and defense. He was a shutdown defender and go to RB. I think McClure will make it in the next level but Jefferson is ALREADY making it in the next level. I do not understand why you put down the loss of Jefferson as nothing last year while McClure loss as the reason they lost.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 3, 2010 16:35:32 GMT -8
There is no replacement for McClure on offense or defense. He's the go to guy as a receiver, and he's the shut down corner. Without him it's much more of a struggle. They did find some answers in the 2nd half, but still really missed McClure big time. He's a human highlight reel. You see him each and every week on the PPR for a reason. Jefferson was on PPR each and every week last year too. And on national TV with huge hits. You keep on insisting that Jefferson made no difference in the game last year. I will do the same thing you do - If Jefferson was still in the game the outcome could possibly of been a lot worse for Vista. Jefferson was a human highlight reel last year on both offense and defense. He was a shutdown defender and go to RB. I think McClure will make it in the next level but Jefferson is ALREADY making it in the next level. I do not understand why you put down the loss of Jefferson as nothing last year while McClure loss as the reason they lost. It comes down to the fact that the impact of Jefferson's loss was minimal. They kept on doing what they did with the same results. They obviously had depth at RB and on defense to pick up the slack. McClure's loss had a huge impact on both sides of the ball as Vista didn't have anyone near his caliber to replace him with. The drop-off was much greater with McClure's loss. Maybe we'll see a rematch at the Q this year. That would be interesting.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Oct 6, 2010 8:36:37 GMT -8
Jefferson was on PPR each and every week last year too. And on national TV with huge hits. You keep on insisting that Jefferson made no difference in the game last year. I will do the same thing you do - If Jefferson was still in the game the outcome could possibly of been a lot worse for Vista. Jefferson was a human highlight reel last year on both offense and defense. He was a shutdown defender and go to RB. I think McClure will make it in the next level but Jefferson is ALREADY making it in the next level. I do not understand why you put down the loss of Jefferson as nothing last year while McClure loss as the reason they lost. It comes down to the fact that the impact of Jefferson's loss was minimal. They kept on doing what they did with the same results. They obviously had depth at RB and on defense to pick up the slack. McClure's loss had a huge impact on both sides of the ball as Vista didn't have anyone near his caliber to replace him with. The drop-off was much greater with McClure's loss. Maybe we'll see a rematch at the Q this year. That would be interesting. That won't happen since Vista is D-1 and Oceanside is D-2 AzWm
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 7, 2010 20:06:07 GMT -8
It comes down to the fact that the impact of Jefferson's loss was minimal. They kept on doing what they did with the same results. They obviously had depth at RB and on defense to pick up the slack. McClure's loss had a huge impact on both sides of the ball as Vista didn't have anyone near his caliber to replace him with. The drop-off was much greater with McClure's loss. Maybe we'll see a rematch at the Q this year. That would be interesting. That won't happen since Vista is D-1 and Oceanside is D-2 AzWm Not Oceanside - a rematch of last years D1 title game.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 9, 2010 9:08:50 GMT -8
Breaking News! VISTA CRUSHES EL CAMINO 55-9! The game was over after the first quarter, and Vista led 42-7 at halftime! The game was won largely in the trenches as Vista dominated line play on both sides of the ball. Vista's skill players were free to do what they do best. Vista scored two TD's in the first 1:25 of the second half. That's right - Two TD's in the first 1:25 of the second half. After that their backups got into the game (including third stringers and their female placekicker who did three of their kickoffs). Here are some game photos... Stefan McClure Jeremiah Kose (as a TE going for a TD, and as a LB stuffing a run) Shakeel Marshall showing some shiftiness
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Post by aztecwin on Oct 16, 2010 7:02:00 GMT -8
What happened at Escondido? Hiccup or what?
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 16, 2010 10:13:42 GMT -8
What happened at Escondido? Hiccup or what? Hiccup? Vista won 27-3! They just started slowly on offense, but got it together in the 2nd half. They put in backup receivers and running backs once they hit 27 points, and that led to three turnovers. That happens when you put 3rd stringers into games. Vista's defense played a very good game against a running QB who is stronger than he looks. Navarro is fast, agile, and has good presence of mind to know when to tuck the ball away and run. The fact that Escondido could only put 3 points on the board says a lot about the Vista defense.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 17, 2010 7:26:07 GMT -8
This may be a few weeks old, but here are the highlights of the Vista/Oceanside game (I just found them at 619sports.net)...
That was one hell of a game!
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Post by aztecwin on Oct 17, 2010 8:13:23 GMT -8
What happened at Escondido? Hiccup or what? Hiccup? Vista won 27-3! They just started slowly on offense, but got it together in the 2nd half. They put in backup receivers and running backs once they hit 27 points, and that led to three turnovers. That happens when you put 3rd stringers into games. Vista's defense played a very good game against a running QB who is stronger than he looks. Navarro is fast, agile, and has good presence of mind to know when to tuck the ball away and run. The fact that Escondido could only put 3 points on the board says a lot about the Vista defense. This is the second team that Valley Center rolled where Vista struggled. The Mira Mesa pre season scrum is the other case. There was a running clock in he second half of the Escondido game just as there was this week against San Marcos. That is why I ask "hiccup"? I am no way claiming that Valley Center is better, but they should move up at least one place this week.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 17, 2010 9:02:22 GMT -8
Hiccup? Vista won 27-3! They just started slowly on offense, but got it together in the 2nd half. They put in backup receivers and running backs once they hit 27 points, and that led to three turnovers. That happens when you put 3rd stringers into games. Vista's defense played a very good game against a running QB who is stronger than he looks. Navarro is fast, agile, and has good presence of mind to know when to tuck the ball away and run. The fact that Escondido could only put 3 points on the board says a lot about the Vista defense. This is the second team that Valley Center rolled where Vista struggled. The Mira Mesa pre season scrum is the other case. See, that's where you're mistaken. If you were at both games you'd know that neither one was a struggle. Mira Mesa got lucky on a long pass otherwise it would have been 21-7 (and Vista is notorious for slow starts to their seasons). The Escondido game was even less of a struggle. It was total domination. The team just came out flat offensively - but after halftime they were firing on all cylinders and ran through the Escondido defense like they weren't even there. (Until Vista's 3rd string receivers and running backs came in, anyway...)
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Post by aztecwin on Oct 17, 2010 13:56:38 GMT -8
This is the second team that Valley Center rolled where Vista struggled. The Mira Mesa pre season scrum is the other case. See, that's where you're mistaken. If you were at both games you'd know that neither one was a struggle. Mira Mesa got lucky on a long pass otherwise it would have been 21-7 (and Vista is notorious for slow starts to their seasons). The Escondido game was even less of a struggle. It was total domination. The team just came out flat offensively - but after halftime they were firing on all cylinders and ran through the Escondido defense like they weren't even there. (Until Vista's 3rd string receivers and running backs came in, anyway...) That is one reason that score comparison is not valid on any level. Valley Center only has about 31 players total and some don't suit up because of injury. They are Div 4 and most probably could not compete for long with Vista.
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