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Post by aztech on Jan 11, 2011 17:30:36 GMT -8
Norm Chow? At any rate, if Rocky is the man, he is connected and will fill the OC job with with a good hire, IMO. I don't know, he did a pretty s#!++y job hiring OCs at UNM. That's the one concern I have as well. His UNM teams were more defense than offense. He may have been too hands on with the UNM offensive game plan so I hope he learned his lesson with how Hoke allowed his coordinators to do their own thing w/o interfering. At this stage of his life I hope he feels more secure and less ego driven.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jan 11, 2011 17:30:51 GMT -8
If you guys are happy with 7-9 win seasons this is your hire How great it must be to predict the future. It probably makes your life incredibly easy. I doubt anything's easy for someone whose handle tells us he's a bus boy. =Bob
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Post by oregonaztec on Jan 11, 2011 17:40:24 GMT -8
I'm glad that Hoke was able to turn things around at SDSU, but it would have been nice to hire someone who didn't view the school as a stepping stone. I realize that hiring philosophy was wishful thinking back then, but it shouldn't be now. We don't have to settle for a guy who's goal is to get the program turned around, then promptly leave for greener pastures.
Of course, if the rumors are true, and Rocky Long is the new head coach, we don't have to worry about him scurrying off to a BCS school. I just hope that he'll be happy in the head coaching role again.
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Post by hbaztec on Jan 11, 2011 17:53:14 GMT -8
I think if Rocky was the head coach this last year, he also could have taken this team 9-4. I also think Rocky's defensive schemes made a world of difference for the Aztecs and I would hate to see him go, much more so than Borges. This would be a great move, IMO - particulalry if the alternative means losing Long and Borges and starting from scratch. I believe we were 9th in the country in tackles for a loss an first in Conference.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jan 11, 2011 17:59:03 GMT -8
I'm glad that Hoke was able to turn things around at SDSU, but it would have been nice to hire someone who didn't view the school as a stepping stone. I realize that hiring philosophy was wishful thinking back then, but it shouldn't be now. We don't have to settle for a guy who's goal is to get the program turned around, then promptly leave for greener pastures. Of course, if the rumors are true, and Rocky Long is the new head coach, we don't have to worry about him scurrying off to a BCS school. I just hope that he'll be happy in the head coaching role again. Anyone who says Rocky did a lousy job at UNM has no understanding at all of how it works in Albuquerque. B-Ball is king and most nobody cares about football. UNM is the southwestern version of K-State (or insert your favorite choice for a B-Ball school that usually has a lousy football team). =Bob
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Post by harleyguy on Jan 11, 2011 18:00:15 GMT -8
Rocky should do just fine. After reading about him in Wikepedia, am more comfortable with him being HC here on the mesa. Since I'm getting up there in age, if I recall, he may have been calling signals as the NM QB many years ago and either beat the Aztecs a few times or certainly gave them fits while playing for the Lobos. Also, believe he has landed a lot of recruits for us since coming here as the DC. Also was not aware of some of the programs he has worked for in the past, but pretty impressive stuff. Actually has a better resume than Hoke. JMO
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Post by joshjones1 on Jan 11, 2011 18:06:55 GMT -8
I'm okay with this. I like Rocky Long.
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Post by sdsuaztecalumni on Jan 11, 2011 18:10:01 GMT -8
I hope you all are right about Rocky. Makes me nervous SDSU went for the bargain coach, and they were lazy and didn't prepare for this after Hoke met with Minn. but it's done. Lets hope this works.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jan 11, 2011 18:15:06 GMT -8
I hope you all are right about Rocky. Makes me nervous SDSU went for the bargain coach, and they were lazy and didn't prepare for this after Hoke met with Minn. but it's done. Lets hope this works. I think that's nonsense. Rocky didn't leave UNM because he was burned out - he left because that school refuses to support football in any meaningful way. I think Rocky was Plan A all along and I have a sneaking suspicion that one of the reasons Rocky took the job was because he figured Hoke would leave after 2 or 3 years and the HC job at SDSU has intrigued him. =Bob
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Post by aztecvatar on Jan 11, 2011 18:37:11 GMT -8
"Rocky won't be able to recruit. Nobody wants to play for some old retread coach."
- Steve Fisher
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Post by sdsuaztecalumni on Jan 11, 2011 18:40:41 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2011 18:41:52 GMT -8
I think that's nonsense. Rocky didn't leave UNM because he was burned out - he left because that school refuses to support football in any meaningful way. I think Rocky was Plan A all along and I have a sneaking suspicion that one of the reasons Rocky took the job was because he figured Hoke would leave after 2 or 3 years and the HC job at SDSU has intrigued him. =Bob You might be onto something here. That hadn't occurred to me but since there's no way could Rocky have left UNM directly for the head coach job at SDSU if he wanted it two years ago, Bob could be correct that he may always have seen himself as a kind of head coach in waiting. If that's the case it's our gain and UNM's loss for having licked Steve Alford's shoes.
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Post by monty on Jan 11, 2011 18:46:38 GMT -8
Just hearing the Chow rumor and it seems to be a possibility as it seems Chow wants out from under skippy, skippy is a boob it seems he is working on a competent offensive staff and we'd basically have the same situation - 2 seasoned and respected coordinators running their stuff without interference- I'm on board.
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Post by sdsuaztecalumni on Jan 11, 2011 19:01:23 GMT -8
Here is something else that is interesting. The USA Today table with coaches/assistant coaches salaries. Makes you wonder how we get anything done on out budget. www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2010-coaches-contracts-database.htmNorm Chow is getting paid $640 according to this document, plus he gets $40K in bonuses. "UCLA: Assistant coach Norm Chow's university compensation includes a $250,000 one-time retention bonus that vested at the start of 2010 spring practice. "
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Post by Cwag on Jan 11, 2011 19:09:48 GMT -8
Rocky long could be Steve Fisher 2.0. I think he wil stay as long as the team is supported.
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Post by ziggy on Jan 11, 2011 19:15:11 GMT -8
Isn't Long the guy who let the girl play on his team? Forgot about that. I believe it was.
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Post by HollywoodAztec on Jan 11, 2011 20:03:00 GMT -8
I'm assuming he meant 7-5 to 9-3 seasons ... which I'll take in a heartbeat. Bowl eligible and challenging for the conference title sounds great to me. If by challenging for conference title by finishing no better than 2 games back each year you are fine with than ok I think you're underestimating what RL can achieve. He may not be an exciting hire but he's undoubtedly a good hire. He's well respected by his peers. He's an excellent recruiter. And certainly a very good coach. It's well known that he did more with less at UNM. With very limited resources, he couldn't attract reputable coaches and talented players to come and play for the Lobo program. Yet, despite many challenges, he was still able to lead UNM to 5 bowl games. RL, with more resources at his disposal, will have a very good probability to succeed and continue the developments began by Hoke. In other words, we'll continue to rise and compete for MWC titles.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jan 11, 2011 20:07:15 GMT -8
You might be onto something here. That hadn't occurred to me but since there's no way could Rocky have left UNM directly for the head coach job at SDSU if he wanted it two years ago, Bob could be correct that he may always have seen himself as a kind of head coach in waiting. I think Rocky has the job he's wanted. My goodness - does anyone want to compare Albuquerque with San Diego? The sad part comes from the idiot youths who think that is old. Damn, guess that means The Show will have another reason to not buy season tickets. =Bob
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Post by mattpohl on Jan 11, 2011 21:11:27 GMT -8
Sixty one (in a few days) isn't old, but it's certainly not young. Hang in there, Matt
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Post by Fred Noonan on Jan 11, 2011 21:30:34 GMT -8
Sixty one (in a few days) isn't old, but it's certainly not young. Hang in there, Matt Come on, Matthew John! 61? The guy's a kid! The Fred Noonan School of Navigation.
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