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Post by sdsuball on Oct 28, 2024 9:21:08 GMT -8
Blame the Wuhan Institute of Virology, China's first biosafety level 4 laboratory, opened in 2018. The new lab did not follow proper safety protocols, and that's why seven million or so people died from COVID. Lazy, not my thing. The pandemic response here matters, as it does with any global health crisis. On a bigger level though, it does bear the question: Why do these labs even exist in the first place? When you have a lab growing Resident Evil type viruses, and then you have a lab leak, 7 million people die. Is the risk/reward even there, especially in a global world where the leak can occur outside your purview but still greatly harm everyone? |
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 28, 2024 9:25:05 GMT -8
Lazy, not my thing. The pandemic response here matters, as it does with any global health crisis. On a bigger level though, it does bear the question: Why do these labs even exist in the first place? When you have a lab growing Resident Evil type viruses, and then you have a lab leak, 7 million people die. Is the risk/reward even there, especially in a global world where the leak can occur outside your purview but still greatly harm everyone? Because you have to be prepared for the unexpected. The safety issues are valid, there needs to be more oversight and procedural upgrades. But that still doesn't absolve the previous administration and the grave mistakes that were made. |
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Post by aztecbrothers on Oct 28, 2024 9:54:20 GMT -8
It's funny how Democrats are now the Establishment and viewed as the Dinosaur Elites, and how the younger voters are turning Republican. The young people are becoming more like the Anti-Establishment movement similar to the Punk Rock Movement. The people want change and are tired of the same empty promises only to see Democratic Politicians line their pockets with taxpayer money. Just look at how filthy rich Obama and Clinton got for being professional politicians.
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Post by sdsuball on Oct 28, 2024 19:32:43 GMT -8
On a bigger level though, it does bear the question: Why do these labs even exist in the first place? When you have a lab growing Resident Evil type viruses, and then you have a lab leak, 7 million people die. Is the risk/reward even there, especially in a global world where the leak can occur outside your purview but still greatly harm everyone? Because you have to be prepared for the unexpected. The safety issues are valid, there needs to be more oversight and procedural upgrades. But that still doesn't absolve the previous administration and the grave mistakes that were made. 7 million people is a lot of people. For perspective, 214,000 people died due to nuclear war in Hiroshima and Nagasaki from two bombs. This lab leak killed the equivalent of 65 WWII nuclear bombs.What... is more dangerous... then that? Other then Mutually Assured Destruction via global nuclear war? I think that there should be consideration to all countries stopping this type of disease testing with new novel viruses that aren't yet in humans, with a mutual moratorium. If they want to do testing with viruses that are already out there, like Ebola, they can knock themselves out. The risk profile is too high with novel viruses - I mean look at what happened to the Native Americans when the explorers brought over Smallpox. |
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 28, 2024 19:34:55 GMT -8
Because you have to be prepared for the unexpected. The safety issues are valid, there needs to be more oversight and procedural upgrades. But that still doesn't absolve the previous administration and the grave mistakes that were made. 7 million people is a lot of people. For perspective, 214,000 people died due to nuclear war in Hiroshima and Nagasaki from two bombs. This lab leak killed the equivalent of 65 WWII nuclear bombs.What... is more dangerous... then that? Other then Mutually Assured Destruction via global nuclear war? I think that there should be consideration to all countries stopping this type of disease testing with new novel viruses that aren't yet in humans, with a mutual moratorium. If they want to do testing with viruses that are already out there, like Ebola, they can knock themselves out. The risk profile is too high with novel viruses - I mean look at what happened to the Native Americans when the explorers brought over Smallpox. It does not absolve the mistakes that were made here. |
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Post by aztecbrothers on Oct 28, 2024 19:58:17 GMT -8
Lazy, not my thing. The pandemic response here matters, as it does with any global health crisis. On a bigger level though, it does bear the question: Why do these labs even exist in the first place? When you have a lab growing Resident Evil type viruses, and then you have a lab leak, 7 million people die. Is the risk/reward even there, especially in a global world where the leak can occur outside your purview but still greatly harm everyone? To keep Trump out of office in 2021? |
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 28, 2024 20:19:15 GMT -8
On a bigger level though, it does bear the question: Why do these labs even exist in the first place? When you have a lab growing Resident Evil type viruses, and then you have a lab leak, 7 million people die. Is the risk/reward even there, especially in a global world where the leak can occur outside your purview but still greatly harm everyone? To keep Trump out of office in 2021? The voters took care of that. Hopefully, the same thing happens next week and then the criminal can face criminal charges. |
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Post by aztecbrothers on Oct 29, 2024 8:14:47 GMT -8
1.4 million people in Puerto Rico are reported as living below the federal poverty line. Almost 13 percent of Puerto Ricans report that they do not have medical insurance and almost one-in-five reports foregoing medical treatment because of cost.Jul 27, 2023
Is the point of the joke to bring focus on how Puerto Rico has been neglected by the U.S.A. for the likes of the Ukraine's around the World. Why have the humanitarian driven Democrats let this happen to these people?
If Trump gets elected, maybe he can fix this by making Puerto Rico the 51st state? They debt is beyond repair at this point anyway.
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 29, 2024 8:27:06 GMT -8
1.4 million people in Puerto Rico are reported as living below the federal poverty line. Almost 13 percent of Puerto Ricans report that they do not have medical insurance and almost one-in-five reports foregoing medical treatment because of cost.Jul 27, 2023 Is the point of the joke to bring focus on how Puerto Rico has been neglected by the U.S.A. for the likes of the Ukraine's around the World. Why have the humanitarian driven Democrats let this happen to these people? If Trump gets elected, maybe he can fix this by making Puerto Rico the 51st state? They debt is beyond repair at this point anyway. The point of the "joke" was to be edgy. It's what comedians do. However, the campaign allowed the "joke" to go through, while at least having the decency to disallow Hinchcliffe calling Harris a ****. The cruelty is the point, always has been with the campaign. Donald Trump doesn't care about Puerto Rico, he cares about himself. Trump doesn't support Puerto Rico's statehood. He wanted to "sell" the island in the wake of the hurricanes in 2017 that he deliberately withheld aid, causing the deaths of thousands in Puerto Rico. |
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Post by aztecbrothers on Oct 29, 2024 9:37:49 GMT -8
Joe Biden is Head of State for Puerto Rico and doesn't give a sh*t about those people over the last 3.5 years. I don't think anyone can blame Trump for the Puerto Rico humanitarian crisis. All jokes aside.
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 29, 2024 9:45:08 GMT -8
Joe Biden is Head of State for Puerto Rico and doesn't give a sh*t about those people over the last 3.5 years. I don't think anyone can blame Trump for the Puerto Rico humanitarian crisis. All jokes aside. Did Joe Biden withhold federal aid from Puerto Rico after repeated natural disasters? No? Oh, well then, I'm going to stick to actual facts. Biden declared an immediate emergency declaration in August after Tropical Storm Ernesto, releasing federal resources without trying to leverage local leaders. Apologies, MAGA person. |
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Post by aztecbrothers on Oct 29, 2024 10:17:41 GMT -8
Joe Biden is Head of State for Puerto Rico and doesn't give a sh*t about those people over the last 3.5 years. I don't think anyone can blame Trump for the Puerto Rico humanitarian crisis. All jokes aside. Did Joe Biden withhold federal aid from Puerto Rico after repeated natural disasters? No? Oh, well then, I'm going to stick to actual facts. Biden declared an immediate emergency declaration in August after Tropical Storm Ernesto, releasing federal resources without trying to leverage local leaders. Apologies, MAGA person. Aid is approved by House and Senate. I doubt that House Democrats would allow Trump to help in a Bill unless there was some money going to help the DNC somewhere. Just take a look how the Democrats led by Joe helped the people in Ashville and Florida after the hurricanes. No bill can be passed unless there is some BS included. This is an issue with both parties; but more of an issue lately with Democrats misuse of taxpayer dollars. |
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 29, 2024 10:41:56 GMT -8
Did Joe Biden withhold federal aid from Puerto Rico after repeated natural disasters? No? Oh, well then, I'm going to stick to actual facts. Biden declared an immediate emergency declaration in August after Tropical Storm Ernesto, releasing federal resources without trying to leverage local leaders. Apologies, MAGA person. Aid is approved by House and Senate. I doubt that House Democrats would allow Trump to help in a Bill unless there was some money going to help the DNC somewhere. Just take a look how the Democrats led by Joe helped the people in Ashville and Florida after the hurricanes. No bill can be passed unless there is some BS included. This is an issue with both parties; but more of an issue lately with Democrats misuse of taxpayer dollars. You should probably learn how government works, for the second time, if you're going to degrade someone's character or reputation. The money was approved, it was withheld by Trump officials, including current policy director of the RNC and Project 2025 architect Russell Vought: www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna749You're still parroting lies about Biden's hurricane relief? Laughable. Brian Kemp, Republican governor of Georgia: youtu.be/WE-u3hwCn4A?si=_q5yPqAVZf3nsoVmThe Speaker of the House said everything was in hand and additional funding could wait until after the election. Probably safer to assume you don't have concern for the truth. |
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Post by sdsuball on Oct 29, 2024 16:31:34 GMT -8
1.4 million people in Puerto Rico are reported as living below the federal poverty line. Almost 13 percent of Puerto Ricans report that they do not have medical insurance and almost one-in-five reports foregoing medical treatment because of cost.Jul 27, 2023 Is the point of the joke to bring focus on how Puerto Rico has been neglected by the U.S.A. for the likes of the Ukraine's around the World. Why have the humanitarian driven Democrats let this happen to these people? If Trump gets elected, maybe he can fix this by making Puerto Rico the 51st state? They debt is beyond repair at this point anyway. The point of the "joke" was to be edgy. It's what comedians do. However, the campaign allowed the "joke" to go through, while at least having the decency to disallow Hinchcliffe calling Harris a ****. The cruelty is the point, always has been with the campaign. Donald Trump doesn't care about Puerto Rico, he cares about himself. Trump doesn't support Puerto Rico's statehood. He wanted to "sell" the island in the wake of the hurricanes in 2017 that he deliberately withheld aid, causing the deaths of thousands in Puerto Rico. It was a funny joke, that is out of place in that setting. And there is a reason why Puerto Rico is a 'piece of trash in the ocean' as the comedian put it: Puerto Rico doesn't have statehood. It doesn't have access to the same funding that other states have. I think that most (random US citizens) would be in favor of giving Puerto Rico statehood. Personally, I believe that the Republican party/Republican states would block a constitutional amendment to make it a state, because they are scared of creating more liberal Electoral College voters in the process. But I'm all for it AztecBrothers. They should be the 51'st state. I'm also for making each of the other US territories a state if they want it - Guam, Virgin Islands, Samoa, Mariana Islands... |
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 29, 2024 16:36:38 GMT -8
The point of the "joke" was to be edgy. It's what comedians do. However, the campaign allowed the "joke" to go through, while at least having the decency to disallow Hinchcliffe calling Harris a ****. The cruelty is the point, always has been with the campaign. Donald Trump doesn't care about Puerto Rico, he cares about himself. Trump doesn't support Puerto Rico's statehood. He wanted to "sell" the island in the wake of the hurricanes in 2017 that he deliberately withheld aid, causing the deaths of thousands in Puerto Rico. It was a funny joke, that is out of place in that setting. And there is a reason why Puerto Rico is a 'piece of trash in the ocean' as the comedian put it: Puerto Rico doesn't have statehood. It doesn't have access to the same funding that other states have. I think that most (random US citizens) would be in favor of giving Puerto Rico statehood. Personally, I believe that the Republican party/Republican states would block a constitutional amendment to make it a state, because they are scared of creating more liberal Electoral College voters in the process. But I'm all for it AztecBrothers. They should be the 51'st state. I'm also for making each of the other US territories a state if they want it - Guam, Virgin Islands, Samoa, Mariana Islands... Republicans absolutely do not support statehood for Puerto Rico. |
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Post by uwphoto on Oct 29, 2024 16:41:26 GMT -8
It was a funny joke, that is out of place in that setting. And there is a reason why Puerto Rico is a 'piece of trash in the ocean' as the comedian put it: Puerto Rico doesn't have statehood. It doesn't have access to the same funding that other states have. I think that most (random US citizens) would be in favor of giving Puerto Rico statehood. Personally, I believe that the Republican party/Republican states would block a constitutional amendment to make it a state, because they are scared of creating more liberal Electoral College voters in the process. But I'm all for it AztecBrothers. They should be the 51'st state. I'm also for making each of the other US territories a state if they want it - Guam, Virgin Islands, Samoa, Mariana Islands... Republicans absolutely do not support statehood for Puerto Rico. and either does Trollbrothers. |
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Post by aztecbrothers on Oct 29, 2024 18:39:52 GMT -8
Republicans absolutely do not support statehood for Puerto Rico. and either does Trollbrothers. Wrong, I am for making Puerto Rico a state. They should have the benefits of Statehood. Not sure it would be a Left Wing State because I don't see them expelling religion and their faith from the island. |
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Post by sdsuball on Oct 31, 2024 15:17:04 GMT -8
and either does Trollbrothers. Wrong, I am for making Puerto Rico a state. They should have the benefits of Statehood. Not sure it would be a Left Wing State because I don't see them expelling religion and their faith from the island. See, I actually think most people are for it. But Ryan is right that the Republican party leadership doesn't support it. It would probably take a candidate incorporating it into their presidential platform, for the idea to gain traction. |
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Post by aztecbrothers on Oct 31, 2024 17:28:40 GMT -8
Wrong, I am for making Puerto Rico a state. They should have the benefits of Statehood. Not sure it would be a Left Wing State because I don't see them expelling religion and their faith from the island. See, I actually think most people are for it. But Ryan is right that the Republican party leadership doesn't support it. It would probably take a candidate incorporating it into their presidential platform, for the idea to gain traction. Just took a quick look at Code 60 and Golden Visa status stuff. The tax avoidance line might be a reason for no on Statehood. Saying that it is only Republicans against Statehood is probably wrong. |
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 31, 2024 17:39:12 GMT -8
See, I actually think most people are for it. But Ryan is right that the Republican party leadership doesn't support it. It would probably take a candidate incorporating it into their presidential platform, for the idea to gain traction. Just took a quick look at Code 60 and Golden Visa status stuff. The tax avoidance line might be a reason for no on Statehood. Saying that it is only Republicans against Statehood is probably wrong. 79% of Democrats polled would approve of statehood, 41% of Republicans. Mitch McConnell outright blocked a Senate vote in 2019 on statehood, calling it "government overreach" (Even though the power lies in Congress.) |
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