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Post by adfrank on Oct 22, 2024 10:09:10 GMT -8
I’m going to disagree with all the DJ haters. Schollies are revocable. If Dutch wasn’t getting something he wanted out of him, he’d be gone. I won’t argue with the way his FT’s look, but doubt any of us know what work he’s putting in there. He’s changed his body since he got here and provides valuable depth. We’re loaded with talented bigs this year, but it’s really nice to have a guy who seems to be improving and is a TEAM first guy with one of your scholarships. I’m not sure he won’t be productive if needed. You don’t play 13 guys in a rotation, so having DJ if you need him and having an extra tough defender with size in practice seems to me to be a good thing. As far as judging him for not leaving, seems a bit unfair to me. We fault a guy who LOVES being an Aztec for staying? Maybe being part of this team and university means a lot to him. Maybe more than scoring 10 points a game at CSUN on a bad team would. I’m cool with that. We have a scholly open as it is. Clearly, something is working out here. That's a bit harsh isn't it? Do you think we hate him because of the way he shoots FTs? Do you not think he might try something different? I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to expect or hope for more from a guy entering his 4th season in the program. Having a guy on your bench that's been almost unplayable isn't a feel-good story. I'm glad he loves SDSU, so do I. But in today's environment, I'd rather have someone at #13 in the roster that can contribute more. That being said, I hope he surprises all of us and shows a marked improvement this year but I'm not holding my breath. I didn’t mean that you actually HATE him. Haters is kind of a catch-all these days for non-supporters, detractors. Not accusing you of actually Hating the kid. On the 13th scholarship, I’d disagree. He’s kind of a perfect fit for that IMO. Team first guys don’t grow on trees anymore. Would I rather have a future All-American that needs to redshirt to gain strength etc? Sure, but we have room for that TOO. There is an open schollie. On the FT’s, I have to believe he’s been working hard on it. Hopefully we’ll see a change this season. |
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Post by aztecm on Oct 22, 2024 10:11:20 GMT -8
I’m going to disagree with all the DJ haters. Schollies are revocable. If Dutch wasn’t getting something he wanted out of him, he’d be gone. I won’t argue with the way his FT’s look, but doubt any of us know what work he’s putting in there. He’s changed his body since he got here and provides valuable depth. We’re loaded with talented bigs this year, but it’s really nice to have a guy who seems to be improving and is a TEAM first guy with one of your scholarships. I’m not sure he won’t be productive if needed. You don’t play 13 guys in a rotation, so having DJ if you need him and having an extra tough defender with size in practice seems to me to be a good thing. As far as judging him for not leaving, seems a bit unfair to me. We fault a guy who LOVES being an Aztec for staying? Maybe being part of this team and university means a lot to him. Maybe more than scoring 10 points a game at CSUN on a bad team would. I’m cool with that. We have a scholly open as it is. Clearly, something is working out here. That's a bit harsh isn't it? Do you think we hate him because of the way he shoots FTs? Do you not think he might try something different? I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to expect or hope for more from a guy entering his 4th season in the program. Having a guy on your bench that's been almost unplayable isn't a feel-good story. I'm glad he loves SDSU, so do I. But in today's environment, I'd rather have someone at #13 in the roster that can contribute more. That being said, I hope he surprises all of us and shows a marked improvement this year but I'm not holding my breath. What kind of contribution do you want from the 12th/13th person off the bench? Good teams are 7-9 players deep. Having a player above 6'7 for scout team/emergency mins is a luxury most teams don't have. He's clearly well liked and appreciated with the team, yet this message board was blaming him last season for our lack of rebounding. Makes zero sense to me. Looks like another season where we're up 30 against air force and people are still complaining about DJ's free throw form. |
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Post by adfrank on Oct 22, 2024 10:13:32 GMT -8
I’m going to disagree with all the DJ haters. Schollies are revocable. If Dutch wasn’t getting something he wanted out of him, he’d be gone. I won’t argue with the way his FT’s look, but doubt any of us know what work he’s putting in there. He’s changed his body since he got here and provides valuable depth. We’re loaded with talented bigs this year, but it’s really nice to have a guy who seems to be improving and is a TEAM first guy with one of your scholarships. I’m not sure he won’t be productive if needed. You don’t play 13 guys in a rotation, so having DJ if you need him and having an extra tough defender with size in practice seems to me to be a good thing. As far as judging him for not leaving, seems a bit unfair to me. We fault a guy who LOVES being an Aztec for staying? Maybe being part of this team and university means a lot to him. Maybe more than scoring 10 points a game at CSUN on a bad team would. I’m cool with that. We have a scholly open as it is. Clearly, something is working out here. Has Dutcher (or Fisher for that matter) ever revoked a scholarship or asked someone to leave absent a legitimate off-court reason like that they broke a team rule? Sometimes it’s just obvious. I hate naming guys, and have no inside info on what actually happened but guys like Alec Williams, Dinwiddie, Zabo MAY be examples? Did Labradford Franklin finish up as an Aztec? |
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Post by sdsuball on Oct 22, 2024 10:27:45 GMT -8
Has Dutcher (or Fisher for that matter) ever revoked a scholarship or asked someone to leave absent a legitimate off-court reason like that they broke a team rule? Sometimes it’s just obvious. I hate naming guys, and have no inside info on what actually happened but guys like Alec Williams, Dinwiddie, Zabo MAY be examples? Did Labradford Franklin finish up as an Aztec? Kevin Zabo was a stud - I was sad to see him transfer. Our team was loaded his freshman year. He did well at Kent State. Dinwiddie maybe, yeah. |
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Post by aztecm on Oct 22, 2024 10:42:17 GMT -8
Sometimes it’s just obvious. I hate naming guys, and have no inside info on what actually happened but guys like Alec Williams, Dinwiddie, Zabo MAY be examples? Did Labradford Franklin finish up as an Aztec? Kevin Zabo was a stud - I was sad to see him transfer. Our team was loaded his freshman year. He did well at Kent State. Dinwiddie maybe, yeah. Zabo, Trey Kell, and Malik Pope all came into the ARC when I was there for pickup ball the Summer it was announced Zabo was transferring. Zabo ended up on one team and Kell/Pope on another team. Usually SDSU bball guys kind of BS at the ARC but they were going at each other. Zabo put on one of the most impressive pickup performances I've seen. He was scoring on both Kell/Pope and was getting stops on both of them. He was even getting his team involved and coaching them up. Zabo's team won a bunch of games in a row, I left disappointed he was transferring. Think he had a couple injuries at Kent State but still had a solid career overall. I think the Mark Zeigler mentioned over the Summer it would be unprecedented for Dutch to take a kid's scholarship that hasn't caused an issue. It's more likely Dutch and the staff will candidly tell them they're being recruited over and can't guarantee minutes. Usually the writing is on the wall already. |
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Post by docmm on Oct 22, 2024 13:08:01 GMT -8
That's a bit harsh isn't it? Do you think we hate him because of the way he shoots FTs? Do you not think he might try something different? I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to expect or hope for more from a guy entering his 4th season in the program. Having a guy on your bench that's been almost unplayable isn't a feel-good story. I'm glad he loves SDSU, so do I. But in today's environment, I'd rather have someone at #13 in the roster that can contribute more. That being said, I hope he surprises all of us and shows a marked improvement this year but I'm not holding my breath. What kind of contribution do you want from the 12th/13th person off the bench? Good teams are 7-9 players deep. Having a player above 6'7 for scout team/emergency mins is a luxury most teams don't have. He's clearly well liked and appreciated with the team, yet this message board was blaming him last season for our lack of rebounding. Makes zero sense to me. Looks like another season where we're up 30 against air force and people are still complaining about DJ's free throw form. Pretty sure no one on this board was directly blaming him for our team's lack of rebounding. LeDee was always being at least double-teamed, Parrish wasn't tall enough, Pal wasn't big enough and Saunders didn't crash the boards enough. Heide actually rebounded well, especially on the offensive boards. Nothing about that was Demarshay's fault. I want a good back-up emergency guy at that 13th slot. If he has to come in at an important time, he'll get hacked to send him to the line. He's foul-prone also. He's not a terrible rebounder and he can be athletic. Here's hoping some of the very rough skills he has have smoothed out a bit in that past 6 months. The reason people are frustrated when the back-ups don't do well when we're up 30 against Air Force is because if we're "supposed" to beat AF by 30 and the back-ups let AF go on a 10-0 run to end the game, it can significantly affect our numbers in the various lists and polls. Yes, it's not fair and we all wish things weren't like that but this year, more than most in the past, we will need to keep our numbers as high as possible to offset the probable losses we'll have in OOC games. We don't want to have to win the MWCT to get into MM. |
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Post by aztecm on Oct 22, 2024 16:01:06 GMT -8
What kind of contribution do you want from the 12th/13th person off the bench? Good teams are 7-9 players deep. Having a player above 6'7 for scout team/emergency mins is a luxury most teams don't have. He's clearly well liked and appreciated with the team, yet this message board was blaming him last season for our lack of rebounding. Makes zero sense to me. Looks like another season where we're up 30 against air force and people are still complaining about DJ's free throw form. Pretty sure no one on this board was directly blaming him for our team's lack of rebounding. LeDee was always being at least double-teamed, Parrish wasn't tall enough, Pal wasn't big enough and Saunders didn't crash the boards enough. Heide actually rebounded well, especially on the offensive boards. Nothing about that was Demarshay's fault. I want a good back-up emergency guy at that 13th slot. If he has to come in at an important time, he'll get hacked to send him to the line. He's foul-prone also. He's not a terrible rebounder and he can be athletic. Here's hoping some of the very rough skills he has have smoothed out a bit in that past 6 months. The reason people are frustrated when the back-ups don't do well when we're up 30 against Air Force is because if we're "supposed" to beat AF by 30 and the back-ups let AF go on a 10-0 run to end the game, it can significantly affect our numbers in the various lists and polls. Yes, it's not fair and we all wish things weren't like that but this year, more than most in the past, we will need to keep our numbers as high as possible to offset the probable losses we'll have in OOC games. We don't want to have to win the MWCT to get into MM. Your concern about the metrics are valid, but that speaks more to the sad need to keep rotation guys in a blowout than expecting the bench to be able to come in after sitting for 35 mins of gametime and produce, Dutcher said the same thing in an interview. A good back-up emergency guy at 13 doesn't exist... otherwise they wouldn't choose to be a back up or 13th off the bench for that matter. Especially at 6'10. Feel free to critique the last center on our depth chart, I just find it odd when all he wants to do is be apart of a winning team, play basketball, and get an education. |
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Post by imhighonx on Oct 22, 2024 18:42:51 GMT -8
Whewww!!!! Aztec Domination!
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Post by heuschele on Oct 27, 2024 11:53:08 GMT -8
In this day and age of NIL, it isn't the worst thing in the world to have a 6'10" player who could give you a few minutes in an emergency, who doesn't mind sitting on the bench. If you replace him with a more capable player, the minutes shrink and players become unhappy. I just don't have a lot of faith in a player that is willing to sit on the bench game after game after game, season after season when he could go somewhere else and actually get to see the court. I also don't have a lot of faith in someone who still shoots FTs that way after a couple D1 years. I was surprised he did not transfer somewhere where he would get more minutes. His shot is literally the worse d1 shot I have ever seen. He is a foul machine. He has legs and speed, but minimal skills. Maybe he could play more at d2, but he chose to continue to sit the bench here. Lots of signs that he is not very motivated. I do wish him the best, but question his rationale to stay on a team that he will sit the bench. Hopefully he gets his degree. |
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Post by ramrodd23 on Oct 27, 2024 12:21:41 GMT -8
He is seemingly never ready to play. What a waste. In this day and age of NIL, it isn't the worst thing in the world to have a 6'10" player who could give you a few minutes in an emergency, who doesn't mind sitting on the bench. If you replace him with a more capable player, the minutes shrink and players become unhappy. The waste comment is uncalled for. DJ was supposed to help two years ago as a backup. He got passed by Saunders as a freshman. Last year he was supposed to come in and help LeDee get less of the workload. He got passed by another true freshman Heide. All the homers here where hyping him up over the years. Cwag and Den60 taking about you. Also, a scrimmage that is missing 3 potential starters. Compton and Taj freshman played. Yet, DJ can’t even play a one min? |
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Post by Den60 on Oct 27, 2024 14:32:14 GMT -8
In this day and age of NIL, it isn't the worst thing in the world to have a 6'10" player who could give you a few minutes in an emergency, who doesn't mind sitting on the bench. If you replace him with a more capable player, the minutes shrink and players become unhappy. The waste comment is uncalled for. DJ was supposed to help two years ago as a backup. He got passed by Saunders as a freshman. Last year he was supposed to come in and help LeDee get less of the workload. He got passed by another true freshman Heide. All the homers here where hyping him up over the years. Cwag and Den60 taking about you. Also, a scrimmage that is missing 3 potential starters. Compton and Taj freshman played. Yet, DJ can’t even play a one min? Talking about what? |
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Post by sdaztecs92115 on Oct 27, 2024 14:37:29 GMT -8
I'm not surprised. The majority of Dutcher's players improve from 1 season to the next, as long as they are willing to work.
GO AZTECS!!!!
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Post by fisherville on Oct 27, 2024 15:55:38 GMT -8
In this day and age of NIL, it isn't the worst thing in the world to have a 6'10" player who could give you a few minutes in an emergency, who doesn't mind sitting on the bench. If you replace him with a more capable player, the minutes shrink and players become unhappy. The waste comment is uncalled for. DJ was supposed to help two years ago as a backup. He got passed by Saunders as a freshman. Last year he was supposed to come in and help LeDee get less of the workload. He got passed by another true freshman Heide. All the homers here where hyping him up over the years. Cwag and Den60 taking about you. Also, a scrimmage that is missing 3 potential starters. Compton and Taj freshman played. Yet, DJ can’t even play a one min? I’d imagine DJ was hurt, it was reported 5 guys were not available. He definitely would have got a few minutes if he was healthy |
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Post by LostAztec on Oct 27, 2024 16:14:56 GMT -8
I'm not surprised. The majority of Dutcher's players improve from 1 season to the next, as long as they are willing to work. GO AZTECS!!!! The possibility exists that he was over evaluated and never lived up to his billing. The fact he still suits up every game says a lot. He must be a valuable practice and Scout Team performer. |
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Post by aztecanthony on Oct 28, 2024 9:08:55 GMT -8
I'm not surprised. The majority of Dutcher's players improve from 1 season to the next, as long as they are willing to work. GO AZTECS!!!! The possibility exists that he was over evaluated and never lived up to his billing. The fact he still suits up every game says a lot. He must be a valuable practice and Scout Team performer. We have to trust Dutcher on this one, if a very good talented player were to fall in our laps, I think Dutcher would find a way to seal the deal. Delayed scholarship, or some other creative idea. I wouldnt assume DJ could do well D2 either, maybe JC, but too late for that. As recruiting improves Aztecs should continue to recruit over some fringe recruits, just part of being a powerhouse program. |
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Post by aztecanthony on Oct 28, 2024 9:14:46 GMT -8
The possibility exists that he was over evaluated and never lived up to his billing. The fact he still suits up every game says a lot. He must be a valuable practice and Scout Team performer. We have to trust Dutcher on this one, if a very good talented player were to fall in our laps, I think Dutcher would find a way to seal the deal. Delayed scholarship, or some other creative idea. I wouldnt assume DJ could do well D2 either, maybe JC, but too late for that. As recruiting improves Aztecs should continue to recruit over some fringe recruits, just part of being a powerhouse program. I think the bigger concern is Heide, he just needs to develop some touch around the rim, needs a little confidence, Aztecs need him to step up, I’m wondering if he’s done this? He figures to be a part of the 8-9 man rotation so I’m optimistic he’s made some improvement. |
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Post by Den60 on Oct 28, 2024 9:22:17 GMT -8
I'm not surprised. The majority of Dutcher's players improve from 1 season to the next, as long as they are willing to work. GO AZTECS!!!! The possibility exists that he was over evaluated and never lived up to his billing. The fact he still suits up every game says a lot. He must be a valuable practice and Scout Team performer. You mean kinda like Angelo Chol and Michael Cage Jr.? |
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Post by standiego on Oct 28, 2024 10:57:29 GMT -8
seems interesting that people are bagging on Shay Johnson - who has stayed with the program and could be needed if both Heide and JCJ get in foul trouble
would understand if the team could have used his scholarship to land another recruit but that did not happen
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Post by adfrank on Oct 28, 2024 11:43:13 GMT -8
seems interesting that people are bagging on Shay Johnson - who has stayed with the program and could be needed if both Heide and JCJ get in foul trouble would understand if the team could have used his scholarship to land another recruit but that did not happen There is STILL an open spot, even WITH DJ on the team. There is zero downside of having him for depth and whatever else he provides. |
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Post by adfrank on Oct 28, 2024 11:43:53 GMT -8
We have to trust Dutcher on this one, if a very good talented player were to fall in our laps, I think Dutcher would find a way to seal the deal. Delayed scholarship, or some other creative idea. I wouldnt assume DJ could do well D2 either, maybe JC, but too late for that. As recruiting improves Aztecs should continue to recruit over some fringe recruits, just part of being a powerhouse program. I think the bigger concern is Heide, he just needs to develop some touch around the rim, needs a little confidence, Aztecs need him to step up, I’m wondering if he’s done this? He figures to be a part of the 8-9 man rotation so I’m optimistic he’s made some improvement. I think we’ll see a big jump in his game. |
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