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Post by mySTRAS on Oct 6, 2024 19:57:21 GMT -8
Except, he's not 3.6 ypc, is he? The 3.6 YPC is what he has done against FBS teams this year (the last 4 games). So far he has 583 yards on 126 carries, and average of 4.6 YPC. But take away the cupcake warm up game against a FCS team, he has 360 yards on 99 carries, which equates to 3.6 YPC. That average would rank him #125 among this year's division 1 RBs. Once again, the point is Cooper has not performed at a level that deserves 100% of the carries. Are you going to review all FBS running backs and remove their week 1 or 2 cupcake stats? Didn't think so. |
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Post by jcljorgenson on Oct 6, 2024 20:02:12 GMT -8
The 3.6 YPC is what he has done against FBS teams this year (the last 4 games). So far he has 583 yards on 126 carries, and average of 4.6 YPC. But take away the cupcake warm up game against a FCS team, he has 360 yards on 99 carries, which equates to 3.6 YPC. That average would rank him #125 among this year's division 1 RBs. Once again, the point is Cooper has not performed at a level that deserves 100% of the carries. Are you going to review all FBS running backs and remove their week 1 or 2 cupcake stats? Didn't think so. He is still only ranked #88 with YPC when you include the cupcake gane. If you think that's good enough to get 100% of the carries, good for you. Let's move on and agree to disagree. |
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Post by sdsustoner on Oct 7, 2024 3:56:54 GMT -8
Why would you want your RB1 in during garbage time? Of course, the same logic that wants the 3.6 YPC guy to get 100 % of the carries Except, he's not 3.6 ypc, is he? Versus his competition level he is. |
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Post by Den60 on Oct 7, 2024 12:23:07 GMT -8
Except, he's not 3.6 ypc, is he? The 3.6 YPC is what he has done against FBS teams this year (the last 4 games). So far he has 583 yards on 126 carries, and average of 4.6 YPC. But take away the cupcake warm up game against a FCS team, he has 360 yards on 99 carries, which equates to 3.6 YPC. That average would rank him #125 among this year's division 1 RBs. At 4.63 YPC, he is still only ranked #88. Once again, the point is Cooper has not performed at a level that deserves 100% of the carries. We don't have anyone better, however. Again, hopefully Christon comes back this week to give us a viable option. According to the coaches, it doesn't appear they feel either Armstead or Sutton give us that. And our O-line was iffy before the season and injuries sure haven't helped. Perhaps when Lewis has a full year to recruit he will be able to assemble better talent. And I have to say, this board absolutely loved the hire of Schmidt as O-line coach. Can't tell if he is on the chopping black (pun intended) yet. It is nice to see that the unit is creating fewer penalties now. The game is relative simple, win the LOS on both sides of the ball and good things happen as long as you aren't giving the ball away or whiffing at tackles. |
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Post by mySTRAS on Oct 7, 2024 12:30:05 GMT -8
Except, he's not 3.6 ypc, is he? Versus his competition level he is. What would be an acceptable YPC to you... running behind the worst O-line in the country, running right up the gut against a stacked box? |
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Post by sdsustoner on Oct 7, 2024 14:17:22 GMT -8
Versus his competition level he is. What would be an acceptable YPC to you... running behind the worst O-line in the country, running right up the gut against a stacked box? For someone to get 100% of all meaningful carries like Cooper has so far? Let's say 7.8 YPC like Penny's senior season when even he didn't get close to the workload Cooper gets In other words, you gotta bring something out of the world special to justify getting almost 100% of the handoffs. Again, why is it so important to you to have Cooper get 100% of the handoffs when his production is pedestrian? |
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Post by Den60 on Oct 7, 2024 15:48:44 GMT -8
What would be an acceptable YPC to you... running behind the worst O-line in the country, running right up the gut against a stacked box? For someone to get 100% of all meaningful carries like Cooper has so far? Let's say 7.8 YPC like Penny's senior season when even he didn't get close to the workload Cooper gets In other words, you gotta bring something out of the world special to justify getting almost 100% of the handoffs. Again, why is it so important to you to have Cooper get 100% of the handoffs when his production is pedestrian? Why is it that you think someone else on the roster can do better? |
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Post by Cwag on Oct 7, 2024 16:15:21 GMT -8
For someone to get 100% of all meaningful carries like Cooper has so far? Let's say 7.8 YPC like Penny's senior season when even he didn't get close to the workload Cooper gets In other words, you gotta bring something out of the world special to justify getting almost 100% of the handoffs. Again, why is it so important to you to have Cooper get 100% of the handoffs when his production is pedestrian? Why is it that you think someone else on the roster can do better? Just because nothing is good enough for them and they have to find something to be negative about because it fits their narrative that Lewis was a bad hire. |
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Oct 7, 2024 16:17:29 GMT -8
We've seen Sutton and Armstead run the ball. They aren't bad. Armstead fumbles too much, so fine go with Sutton for 5-10 carries per game. But to give 30 carries to Cooper and 0 to any other backs seems ridiculous. Cooper isn't that good
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Post by Cwag on Oct 7, 2024 16:26:36 GMT -8
We've seen Sutton and Armstead run the ball. They aren't bad. Armstead fumbles too much, so fine go with Sutton for 5-10 carries per game. But to give 30 carries to Cooper and 0 to any other backs seems ridiculous. Cooper isn't that good To say he isn't that good is not fair in my opinion. He is a good running back. With a solid Offensive line, he could be an excellent running back. |
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Oct 7, 2024 16:30:12 GMT -8
We've seen Sutton and Armstead run the ball. They aren't bad. Armstead fumbles too much, so fine go with Sutton for 5-10 carries per game. But to give 30 carries to Cooper and 0 to any other backs seems ridiculous. Cooper isn't that good To say he isn't that good is not fair in my opinion. He is a good running back. With a solid Offensive line, he could be an excellent running back. I think it's fair. He's good... but not that good. He's not good enough to warrant not ever taking him off the field |
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Post by sdsuballer on Oct 7, 2024 16:58:22 GMT -8
We've seen Sutton and Armstead run the ball. They aren't bad. Armstead fumbles too much, so fine go with Sutton for 5-10 carries per game. But to give 30 carries to Cooper and 0 to any other backs seems ridiculous. Cooper isn't that good To say he isn't that good is not fair in my opinion. He is a good running back. With a solid Offensive line, he could be an excellent running back. He is a good running back that can't block worth a lick. On two occasions he had one on one with an DL that was not block, and he decided to do nothing. |
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Post by sdsustoner on Oct 7, 2024 17:18:56 GMT -8
Why is it that you think someone else on the roster can do better? Just because nothing is good enough for them and they have to find something to be negative about because it fits their narrative that Lewis was a bad hire. Lmao 🤣😂 @ this gaslighting Go make fictional narratives elsewhere |
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Post by sdsustoner on Oct 7, 2024 17:21:36 GMT -8
For someone to get 100% of all meaningful carries like Cooper has so far? Let's say 7.8 YPC like Penny's senior season when even he didn't get close to the workload Cooper gets In other words, you gotta bring something out of the world special to justify getting almost 100% of the handoffs. Again, why is it so important to you to have Cooper get 100% of the handoffs when his production is pedestrian? Why is it that you think someone else on the roster can do better? I've never made that claim Mr King of False Arguments All I've done the entire time is talk about how his pedestrian production doesn't justify 100% of the meaningful workload. I've even said he deserves to start What I've also repeated and you've ignored is Cooper doesn't deserve all the carries he's getting So once again, Master of Deflection...why is it so crucial to you for Cooper to have 100% of meaningful carries? |
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Post by mySTRAS on Oct 7, 2024 18:02:39 GMT -8
Why is it that you think someone else on the roster can do better? I've never made that claim Mr King of False Arguments All I've done the entire time is talk about how his pedestrian production doesn't justify 100% of the meaningful workload. I've even said he deserves to start What I've also repeated and you've ignored is Cooper doesn't deserve all the carries he's getting So once again, Master of Deflection...why is it so crucial to you for Cooper to have 100% of meaningful carries? So you admit Cooper is the best option? Yet, you still want someone else to get carries? Explain that logic, please! 7.8 ypc is your hurdle? Behind our O-line... running up the gut vs. stacked boxes... that is the dumbest f****** statement ever written on Aztec Mesa... no, it is actually retarded. Marshall Faulk's numbers were severely stunted because Luginbill ran him up the middle instead of pitching him the ball more often for plays outside the tackles. Thank you for confirming that you aren't actually serious about this difference of opinions. |
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Post by mySTRAS on Oct 7, 2024 18:05:07 GMT -8
Why is it that you think someone else on the roster can do better? I've never made that claim Mr King of False Arguments All I've done the entire time is talk about how his pedestrian production doesn't justify 100% of the meaningful workload. I've even said he deserves to start What I've also repeated and you've ignored is Cooper doesn't deserve all the carries he's getting So once again, Master of Deflection... why is it so crucial to you for Cooper to have 100% of meaningful carries?Because he is the best option we have! How hard is that to understand? |
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Post by Cwag on Oct 7, 2024 18:22:17 GMT -8
I've never made that claim Mr King of False Arguments All I've done the entire time is talk about how his pedestrian production doesn't justify 100% of the meaningful workload. I've even said he deserves to start What I've also repeated and you've ignored is Cooper doesn't deserve all the carries he's getting So once again, Master of Deflection... why is it so crucial to you for Cooper to have 100% of meaningful carries?Because he is the best option we have! How hard is that to understand? The grass is always greener and the other running backs are always better. |
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Post by azman on Oct 7, 2024 18:29:13 GMT -8
I've never made that claim Mr King of False Arguments All I've done the entire time is talk about how his pedestrian production doesn't justify 100% of the meaningful workload. I've even said he deserves to start What I've also repeated and you've ignored is Cooper doesn't deserve all the carries he's getting So once again, Master of Deflection... why is it so crucial to you for Cooper to have 100% of meaningful carries?Because he is the best option we have! How hard is that to understand? How do you know that when nobody else even gets a chance? Sutton had a 5.2 yard average last year on a horrible offense. Maybe give him at least 5 carries a game?? |
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Post by mySTRAS on Oct 7, 2024 18:32:30 GMT -8
Because he is the best option we have! How hard is that to understand? How do you know that when nobody else even gets a chance? Sutton had a 5.2 yard average last year on a horrible offense. Maybe give him at least 5 carries a game?? I should have said: "I believe he is the best option that we have!" Also, because I believe the coaching staff isn't intentionally throwing games. |
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Post by Cwag on Oct 7, 2024 18:40:10 GMT -8
Because he is the best option we have! How hard is that to understand? How do you know that when nobody else even gets a chance? Sutton had a 5.2 yard average last year on a horrible offense. Maybe give him at least 5 carries a game?? It’s called practice. Have you been attending those? |
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