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Post by AzTuba85 on Oct 2, 2024 8:55:53 GMT -8
It makes geographic sense now, with Utah State in there to go along with Colorado State. Travel won't be that bad for Memphis or Tulane. They really should join the PAC. It would be best for all involved. Memphis concerns are in getting their Olys to Pullman, Corvallis, and Logan for a two hour event. We have the same concerns! Get over it Memphis |
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Post by soccer94 on Oct 2, 2024 9:05:21 GMT -8
The Pac currently has four baseball Schools. OSU, Gonzaga, Fresno, and SDSU. The MW has five: AFA, UNM, Joser, Nevada, and UNLV. Do they merge for baseball ? All of the target schools play baseball There are many schools that don't play men's soccer or baseball to try to reach Title IX targets or due to budget issues. This could change with maximum rosters and scholarships numbers potentially changing for all sports soon. I see one of the following happening with this. 1. The Pac hosts men's soccer and baseball and either adds permanent schools that have these sports to reach the minimum number for automatic tournament qualification which I believe is 6 or; 2. Adds associate schools in the region from outside the conference to meet minimum numbers required if they are close but do not have enough teams to form an automatic qualification league, or; 3. The schools join another regional league as SDSU soccer did this season with the WAC or previously with the Pac. The WAC, WCC or Big Sky could also be options, or; 4. Play a skeleton conference schedule with the teams they have, but play a challenging non-conference schedule and hope for at large bids. This option would not allow for an automatic tournament qualifier in these sports. "31.3.5.2 Additional Requirements, Sports Other Than Division I Men's Basketball. The conference must have: To be considered eligible for automatic qualification, a member conference (including a single-sport conference) must include six core institutions that satisfy continuity of membership. For the purposes of this legislation, core refers to an institution that has been an active member of Division I the eight preceding years. Further, the continuity-of-membership requirement shall be met only if a minimum of six core institutions have conducted conference competition together in Division I the preceding two years. There shall be no exceptions to the two-year waiting period. What I don't see is the MWC and Pac working together or combining to get the numbers they need for these sports. There is going to be too much bad blood between the leagues and ongoing litigation and a lot of hurt feelings on the MWC side. |
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Post by Boise Aztec on Oct 2, 2024 9:16:05 GMT -8
All of the target schools play baseball There are many schools that don't play men's soccer or baseball to try to reach Title IX targets or due to budget issues. This could change with maximum rosters and scholarships numbers potentially changing for all sports soon. I see one of the following happening with this. 1. The Pac hosts men's soccer and baseball and either adds permanent schools that have these sports to reach the minimum number for automatic tournament qualification which I believe is 6 or; 2. Adds associate schools in the region from outside the conference to meet minimum numbers required if they are close but do not have enough teams to form an automatic qualification league, or; 3. The schools join another regional league as SDSU soccer did this season with the WAC or previously with the Pac. The WAC, WCC or Big Sky could also be options, or; 4. Play a skeleton conference schedule with the teams they have, but play a challenging non-conference schedule and hope for at large bids. This option would not allow for an automatic tournament qualifier in these sports. "31.3.5.2 Additional Requirements, Sports Other Than Division I Men's Basketball. The conference must have: To be considered eligible for automatic qualification, a member conference (including a single-sport conference) must include six core institutions that satisfy continuity of membership. For the purposes of this legislation, core refers to an institution that has been an active member of Division I the eight preceding years. Further, the continuity-of-membership requirement shall be met only if a minimum of six core institutions have conducted conference competition together in Division I the preceding two years. There shall be no exceptions to the two-year waiting period. What I don't see is the MWC and Pac working together or combining to get the numbers they need for these sports. There is going to be too much bad blood between the leagues and ongoing litigation and a lot of hurt feelings on the MWC side. Expect 6-8 permanent baseball members in the P12 and 6ish soccer members |
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Post by tecsonthebeach on Oct 2, 2024 9:55:55 GMT -8
I consider anything north of Camp Pendleton to be LA myself, but when I was at UCI and called the area LA, my teammates from LA set me straight. That is why I referred to it as the "LA Metropolitan Area". That and LA are two very different things. What is more important is what TV considers LA. I believe the DMA considers Orange County part of the LA market. www.mediamarketmap.com/los-angeles-designated-market-media-map/I agree with you guys, but if you tell Dodger fans (and many longtime Angel fans) that, you’re going to get pooh-poohed. 😂 I grew up in Orange County as an Angels fan, but I never had a problem with Arte Moreno changing the name to the Los Angeles Angels. Now, back to the discussion at hand… |
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Post by aztech on Oct 2, 2024 10:08:55 GMT -8
All of the target schools play baseball There are many schools that don't play men's soccer or baseball to try to reach Title IX targets or due to budget issues. This could change with maximum rosters and scholarships numbers potentially changing for all sports soon. I see one of the following happening with this. 1. The Pac hosts men's soccer and baseball and either adds permanent schools that have these sports to reach the minimum number for automatic tournament qualification which I believe is 6 or; 2. Adds associate schools in the region from outside the conference to meet minimum numbers required if they are close but do not have enough teams to form an automatic qualification league, or; 3. The schools join another regional league as SDSU soccer did this season with the WAC or previously with the Pac. The WAC, WCC or Big Sky could also be options, or; 4. Play a skeleton conference schedule with the teams they have, but play a challenging non-conference schedule and hope for at large bids. This option would not allow for an automatic tournament qualifier in these sports. "31.3.5.2 Additional Requirements, Sports Other Than Division I Men's Basketball. The conference must have: To be considered eligible for automatic qualification, a member conference (including a single-sport conference) must include six core institutions that satisfy continuity of membership. For the purposes of this legislation, core refers to an institution that has been an active member of Division I the eight preceding years. Further, the continuity-of-membership requirement shall be met only if a minimum of six core institutions have conducted conference competition together in Division I the preceding two years. There shall be no exceptions to the two-year waiting period. What I don't see is the MWC and Pac working together or combining to get the numbers they need for these sports. There is going to be too much bad blood between the leagues and ongoing litigation and a lot of hurt feelings on the MWC side. If I recall the chosen members agreed to dedicate more funds to athletics. So those who don't have a specific Olympic sport that others have, will fund one. |
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Post by myownwords on Oct 2, 2024 10:33:47 GMT -8
I wonder if Gonzaga's deal is "contingent"? If we don't get to 8 in a prescribed time, they can bolt?
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Post by Cwag on Oct 2, 2024 10:36:28 GMT -8
I wonder if Gonzaga's deal is "contingent"? If we don't get to 8 in a prescribed time, they can bolt? The odds if us getting to 8 is 100%. There are probably 5-6 teams that are on a list and we will get at least one of them. |
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Post by Den60 on Oct 2, 2024 10:38:11 GMT -8
It makes geographic sense now, with Utah State in there to go along with Colorado State. Travel won't be that bad for Memphis or Tulane. They really should join the PAC. It would be best for all involved. Memphis concerns are in getting their Olys to Pullman, Corvallis, and Logan for a two hour event. Going to the Northwest is a decent flight for them, but Gonzaga is there as well. Flights into SLC are easy to find. Yes, it is an hour and a half drive from there to Logan. |
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Post by LostAztec on Oct 2, 2024 10:40:18 GMT -8
I wonder if Gonzaga's deal is "contingent"? If we don't get to 8 in a prescribed time, they can bolt? The odds if us getting to 8 is 100%. There are probably 5-6 teams that are on a list and we will get at least one of them. Even if it's Texass State |
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Post by Den60 on Oct 2, 2024 10:40:55 GMT -8
I was an Anteater for a while... ZOT! The B.C. coming strip ? That was a good one Yep, we would line up next to UCLA before a meet and they would be doing their "U-C-L-A" chant and we would break with "Zot." I really should have gone to UCLA. |
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Post by LostAztec on Oct 2, 2024 10:41:20 GMT -8
Memphis concerns are in getting their Olys to Pullman, Corvallis, and Logan for a two hour event. Going to the Northwest is a decent flight for them, but Gonzaga is there as well. Flights into SLC are easy to find. Yes, it is an hour and a half drive from there to Logan. It's quite the bus ride from Spokane to Pullman so the Golf Squads can tee off |
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Post by Den60 on Oct 2, 2024 10:42:28 GMT -8
Cal/Stanford will never come back to the Pac-12 with GCU in it. Mind blowing that a "for profit" private Christian university would even be considered. I would take BYU over them! The current PAC would have taken BYU in a heartbeat. |
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Post by Den60 on Oct 2, 2024 10:45:05 GMT -8
Going to the Northwest is a decent flight for them, but Gonzaga is there as well. Flights into SLC are easy to find. Yes, it is an hour and a half drive from there to Logan. It's quite the bus ride from Spokane to Pullman so the Golf Squads can tee off Golf doesn't do dual meets. Check out SDSU's schedule last year, they traveled a lot. Soccer. volleyball, baseball, softball and basketball are those that are most impacted by travel. |
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Post by Den60 on Oct 2, 2024 10:47:51 GMT -8
Memphis concerns are in getting their Olys to Pullman, Corvallis, and Logan for a two hour event. We have the same concerns! Get over it Memphis We could add Memphis, Tulane and UNT and still be better off with travel than in the MGC. |
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Post by Boise Aztec on Oct 2, 2024 11:20:35 GMT -8
I wonder if Gonzaga's deal is "contingent"? If we don't get to 8 in a prescribed time, they can bolt? They have a signed GOR |
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Post by fisherville on Oct 2, 2024 11:26:55 GMT -8
Memphis come on down
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Post by myownwords on Oct 2, 2024 11:29:08 GMT -8
I wonder if Gonzaga's deal is "contingent"? If we don't get to 8 in a prescribed time, they can bolt? They have a signed GOR Well, there you go. End of story. |
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Post by myownwords on Oct 2, 2024 11:31:54 GMT -8
Gonzaga's addition likely made new "acquisitions" less costly. |
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Post by soccer94 on Oct 2, 2024 11:42:02 GMT -8
Well, there you go. End of story. As long as the MWC comes through with the money that was promised in the agreement. |
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Post by Den60 on Oct 2, 2024 15:14:33 GMT -8
Well, there you go. End of story. As long as the MWC comes through with the money that was promised in the agreement. That would be a MOU, not a GOR. |
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