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Post by zurac315 on Sept 26, 2024 19:23:12 GMT -8
I certainly do NOT want anything to do with El Paso. Most of Texas doesn't want El Paso. Twice, the state has tried to put El Paso in a different time zone. I think they'd give that part of their state to New Mexico, they'd take them. We do need to stress propinquity in the formation of the conference. |
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Post by Gundo on Sept 26, 2024 19:30:49 GMT -8
I think we end up with Memphis ( just need to up the offer) . DO we stop at 8 football and then add Gonzaga or does Memphis need a travel partner ie. Tulane ? Personally 9 is best, allows for 8 conference football games, 16 basketball, or 18 should we get a basketball only school (that being Gonzaga.) |
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Post by sdsu2000 on Sept 26, 2024 19:39:36 GMT -8
There’s a thread on X and it makes sense to what the Pac is dealing with. They currently owe $55M to the MW which they are trying to avoid paying or decrease the amount. That only leaves them $10M to help with buyout fees so it was evenly split among the 4 AAC schools.
They could offer all $10M to one program and tell the others to wait. If they don’t have to pay the full $55M they can offer more. Or they can wait till 2026. If they are recognized as a conference in 2026 they get $250M but if they aren’t it gets split evenly among the old Pac-12 teams.
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Post by Cwag on Sept 26, 2024 19:42:23 GMT -8
There’s a thread on X and it makes sense to what the Pac is dealing with. They currently owe $55M to the MW which they are trying to avoid paying or decrease the amount. That only leaves them $10M to help with buyout fees so it was evenly split among the 4 AAC schools. They could offer all $10M to one program and tell the others to wait. If they don’t have to pay the full $55M they can offer more. Or they can wait till 2026. If they are recognized as a conference in 2026 they get $250M but if they aren’t it gets split evenly among the old Pac-12 teams. Why can’t they just agree to defer any payment until 2026 when they get the $250 million? |
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Post by Gundo on Sept 26, 2024 19:55:26 GMT -8
I certainly do NOT want anything to do with El Paso. Most of Texas doesn't want El Paso. Twice, the state has tried to put El Paso in a different time zone. I think they'd give that part of their state to New Mexico, they'd take them. UNM and NMSU are hated arch-rivals, and it's unlikely that the Lobos would be eager to align with the Aggies. However, NMSU and UTEP have their own long-standing rivalry, known as the "Battle of I-10." As of 2023, UTEP leads the series with a 59–38–2 record after 99 games. This rivalry spans over a century of college football, starting in 1914. They may be a package deal. |
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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on Sept 26, 2024 20:57:56 GMT -8
I think we end up with Memphis ( just need to up the offer) . DO we stop at 8 football and then add Gonzaga or does Memphis need a travel partner ie. Tulane ? Memphis and Tulane to get to 9 Gonzaga to get basket basketball to 10 I would think you need to take four eastern to lower their travel |
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Post by AzTex on Sept 26, 2024 21:16:18 GMT -8
I certainly do NOT want anything to do with El Paso. Most of Texas doesn't want El Paso. Twice, the state has tried to put El Paso in a different time zone. I think they'd give that part of their state to New Mexico, they'd take them. El Paso is in a different time zone than almost all of Texas. El Paso is in the Mountain time zone, The rest of Texas is Central time. |
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Post by moctezumaii on Sept 27, 2024 4:00:58 GMT -8
These 7 schools are fighting against a whole lot of entities at the moment, the ncaa would be no different. You know what’s so outrageous? The entire college football community is out here calling Washington State, Oregon State, and the remaining Pac-6 greedy, claiming they should just accept a Mountain West/Pac merger. Sure, that might sound logical, but it’s far from knowledgeable. The real greed has been from the likes of UCLA and USC jumping ship to the Big Ten for fatter paychecks, Oklahoma and Texas heading to the SEC for the cash grab and exposure, and the four corner schools running to the Big 12 for, you guessed it—more money, more money, more money and a fear of being left behind. WSU and OSU dis not rebuilding the Pac for greed—they doing it for survival. They're not accepting relegation. They fought in court, won $255 million, retained the Pac-12 branding and assets and even the TV studio, and now they’re standing up for schools that want more than the status quo of being a Group of 5 as an afterthought. This is a true American underdog story. Yet, despite all that, the press, clueless commentators, and TV broadcasters keep saying, "Just merge, or give up." That’s not in the DNA of any of the Pac-6 schools. In a country split between the haves and have-nots, why bow down to the haves and settle for the scraps tossed at the G5? It’s time to rise up! Screw them all, find a partner and move onward & upward. Better to die standing, than live on your knees. |
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Post by myownwords on Sept 27, 2024 6:05:41 GMT -8
I certainly do NOT want anything to do with El Paso. Most of Texas doesn't want El Paso. Twice, the state has tried to put El Paso in a different time zone. I think they'd give that part of their state to New Mexico, they'd take them. El Paso is in a different time zone than almost all of Texas. El Paso is in the Mountain time zone, The rest of Texas is Central time. You're right. I guess the fight was to be INCULDED into the same TZ as the rest of Texas and that wouldn't fly |
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Post by bschmurda on Sept 27, 2024 8:00:32 GMT -8
Add Texas State to get to 8 -- Then you have bait either UTSA, Memphis, or Tulane with an offer they cant refuse. First to jump gets $15M to cover fees next one gets $5M. And the last one gets stuck in the AAC for the foreseeable future. It's game theory at this point. You're only as strong as your weakest link, same thing Big12 did with Colorado and same thing Pac12 did with Utah State.
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Post by AzTuba85 on Sept 27, 2024 8:30:46 GMT -8
No to Texas schools at this point. There is no rush to get to 8, and do you REALLY want to do a roadie to San Marcos, TX? You would have to go through Austin or San Antonio to get there...
The Memphis AD is literally BEGGING for an opportunity to join!
From an Aztec and PAC12 committee perspective, the only targets for conference slots 8 and 9 should be:
Memphis (#8) and
One and only one of the following: Tulane, USF (Football Only), or UCONN (Football Only) (#9)
And if AAC is really able to circle the wagons then...
UTEP and NMSU should only be a LAST RESORT to potentially block MWC
PAC should be all in on Memphis right now. Everything else you are hearing (UCONN, etc) is just noise. Beale Street and Bourbon Street here we come *xxfingerscrossed
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Post by bschmurda on Sept 27, 2024 8:46:26 GMT -8
No to Texas schools at this point. There is no rush to get to 8, and do you REALLY want to do a roadie to San Marcos, TX? You would have to go through Austin or San Antonio to get there... The Memphis AD is literally BEGGING for an opportunity to join! From an Aztec and PAC12 committee perspective, the only targets for conference slots 8 and 9 should be: Memphis (#8) and One and only one of the following: Tulane, USF (Football Only), or UCONN (Football Only) (#9) And if AAC is really able to circle the wagons then... UTEP and NMSU should only be a LAST RESORT to potentially block MWC PAC should be all in on Memphis right now. Everything else you are hearing (UCONN, etc) is just noise. Beale Street and Bourbon Street here we come *xxfingerscrossed Getting 8 gets you leverage and you can actually start negotiating a media rights deal. I was in ATX this past memorial day, Texas State is 30 minutes from Downtown Austin and 50 min from the San Antonio river walk. Austin is exploding as a city, so yeah give me San Marcos. Then go after Memphis and NOLA. |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 27, 2024 8:52:14 GMT -8
No to Texas schools at this point. There is no rush to get to 8, and do you REALLY want to do a roadie to San Marcos, TX? You would have to go through Austin or San Antonio to get there... The Memphis AD is literally BEGGING for an opportunity to join! From an Aztec and PAC12 committee perspective, the only targets for conference slots 8 and 9 should be: Memphis (#8) and One and only one of the following: Tulane, USF (Football Only), or UCONN (Football Only) (#9) And if AAC is really able to circle the wagons then... UTEP and NMSU should only be a LAST RESORT to potentially block MWC PAC should be all in on Memphis right now. Everything else you are hearing (UCONN, etc) is just noise. Beale Street and Bourbon Street here we come *xxfingerscrossed Add Memphis and Gonzaga then consider Tulane and one other AAC school for 2027 when exit fees are lower. |
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Post by hoobs on Sept 27, 2024 8:54:40 GMT -8
Based on the Memphis AD's comments, it does really seem like just a matter of negotiating the $$$
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Post by AzTuba85 on Sept 27, 2024 8:57:38 GMT -8
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