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Post by zurac315 on Sept 26, 2024 16:11:08 GMT -8
Hawaii for football + UC Irvine for everything else would be interesting. UCI basketball is pretty solid (Gonzaga and St. Mary's would be great too, obviously) Can't happen now. |
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Post by Cwag on Sept 26, 2024 16:13:38 GMT -8
We are not looking for backfill right now. We need the right schools. patience, money and creativity will get us there. Keep breathing,
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Post by laaztec on Sept 26, 2024 16:19:38 GMT -8
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Post by Den60 on Sept 26, 2024 16:21:58 GMT -8
Don’t look now, Sac State just announced they are building a new 25,000 seat stadium and using the architect Populous. I know everyone says no way but they are located in the top 20 media markets in the nation and have plans to build a new basketball arena as well. They will easily surpass SJSU in the athletic front in the next 5 years. I’d much rather take a young program looking to grow than someone who’s done nothing for decades. I'd rather have UC Davis. Same market. Id rather not. Tex. St. long before any California schools. |
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Post by Cwag on Sept 26, 2024 16:23:02 GMT -8
I'd rather have UC Davis. Same market. Id rather not. Tex. St. long before any California schools. I think Texas State will go to the MWC. |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 26, 2024 16:28:09 GMT -8
It'll be interesting how this plays out as at this point, unfortunately Texas St looks like our best option for # 8. But if the AAC gets them, then we're pretty screwed as not only are we stuck at 7 and having to take a small / bad option for # 8, the AAC got that much better by hamstringing the new PAC into a small school. I'm thinking the original 4 MWC schools assumed we'd be stealing some AAC schools. This isn't turning out as well as I'd originally hoped. Anything is possible if you throw enough money at it. The AAC isn't going to add Tex. St. when they are less than 50 miles from UTSA. Taking the best AAC schools was always iffy, the the PAC did anyway. Taking the best of the MWC was always the most likely outcome. Losing out of UNLV is no big deal, not when you consider they have financial problems. The PAC can add another FB school, bring in Gonzaga and maybe one other WCC school if necessary to encourage Gonzaga while adding needed teams for baseball and men's soccer and it will still be better than the AAC and, much much better than the MWC. You have to understand, unless the remaining MWC schools are run by idiots, the money promised to then is dependent on getting tons of money from the PAC, which is unlikely. Just the money offered to UNLV and AFA likely exceeds what the MWC will get from the departing schools. |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 26, 2024 16:31:45 GMT -8
There are reports that 6 of the 7 MWC football schools signed binding commitment agreements with the hold out being Hawaii. But only UNLV, Air Force and 4 of the other 5 needed to sign to make it binding. Hawaii may be holding out for either full membership in the PAC or football only membership. The rest of the MWC is now off the table which is fine. Any agreement they signed likely is contingent on the MWC being awarded tons of money from the PAC. That is less than unlikely. |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 26, 2024 16:35:19 GMT -8
x.com/Nathan_26_/status/1839324623768572086Get a good TV deal with escalators and make a 2nd run at Memphis and Tulane. They could even come in 2027 instead, reducing their exit fee to $10M which PAC could pay for half. Then take Tex. St for 2026 to have the number of schools required for FBS. Most definitely sign Gonzaga. |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 26, 2024 16:37:47 GMT -8
They signed a MOU. LOL. Need to read the fine print. |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 26, 2024 16:41:51 GMT -8
We need to hurry up and add Texas State, JMO. The dynamics of this have changed rapidly. Just because Nevarez is panicking is no reason for us to join her. |
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Post by 94sdsu on Sept 26, 2024 16:52:28 GMT -8
I disagree, time is of the essence. There's literally nobody left worth taking other than Texas St who's borderline at best away, but at least we're then at 8 and have a good foothold into Texas.
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Post by RiffelBooks on Sept 26, 2024 16:58:17 GMT -8
They signed a MOU. LOL. Need to read the fine print. Which means maybe we circle back to them later, but not now. |
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Post by RiffelBooks on Sept 26, 2024 17:05:58 GMT -8
We need to hurry up and add Texas State, JMO. The dynamics of this have changed rapidly. . On this point, I agree with you. The Pac doesn't need to move so fast that they make a mistake. Right now, the available options will devalue the conference when it comes to negotiating TV rights. Let's see if Teresa Gould can inherit Rocky's balls of steel and hold at seven for now, and let things shake out, such as the instability of the ACC and whether the AAC can actually sweeten its TV deal. The Pac will have to make a move for an eighth member at some point, obviously, but now is not the time to panic. Perhaps pivot to signing up non-football members. I do like the UC Irvine idea, btw. Maybe a better add than St Mary's to pair with the Zags. |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 26, 2024 17:09:51 GMT -8
I disagree, time is of the essence. There's literally nobody left worth taking other than Texas St who's borderline at best away, but at least we're then at 8 and have a good foothold into Texas. You didn't read the part about the PAC turning down UNLV? AFA was never going to come and Nevarez is just trying to make it seem like the MWC is standing firm. The MOU they signed likely includes financial gains the conference will never see and is, reportedly, through the year 2032. Those MOUs will never turn into a GOR and I doubt any current MWC member expects those terms to ever be met. Nevarez is trying to get the PAC to panic and do a full merger with the MWC. Don't see the 7 current members panicing. The PAC can easily sign an 8th FB school anytime they want for terms that makes sense. You have Tex. St, UNT, Rice that can all be added for less money than a MWC school. I'm going with TSU. They have a 40K enrollment, their own 28,000 seat stadium and a 10,000 sf arena. Facilities better than SJSU and UNLV and on par with UNR. They sit near the capital of Texas. Their AD budget is about the same as SJSU and they are in a lessor conference. Their exit fee is 2.5M. Take them to get to 8 FB schools, add Gonzaga and that is still the best G conference out there. Then, make a push for Memphis, Tulane for 2027. Much of what the PAC is trying to do is take programs into the conference and get them to grow their programs together. Yes, SDSU, Ore. St and, to a lessor extent, Wazzu are where we want to see the other schools ascend to. What I really like about a small, mostly regional conference, is that we will play each team every year (twice in BB) and that is going to create and nurture rivalries which is one thing that collegiate sports used to do. Now, for the big boys it is simple business. Have some faith. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 26, 2024 17:12:41 GMT -8
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Post by Den60 on Sept 26, 2024 17:14:57 GMT -8
Just because Nevarez is panicking is no reason for us to join her. On this point, I agree with you. The Pac doesn't need to move so fast that they make a mistake. Right now, the available options will devalue the conference when it comes to negotiating TV rights. Let's see if Teresa Gould can inherit Rocky's balls of steel and hold at seven for now, and let things shake out, such as the instability of the ACC and whether the AAC can actually sweeten its TV deal. The Pac will have to make a move for an eighth member at some point, obviously, but now is not the time to panic. Perhaps pivot to signing up non-football members. I do like the UC Irvine idea, btw. Maybe a better add than St Mary's to pair with the Zags. The Anteaters? Maybe. But if you are going to take a Big West school I'd probably go with Long Beach first. Plays in a arena, has a former SDSU assistant AD as their AD and has a former SDSU assistant as head coach. I really hadn't thought about a Big West team add before, interesting. Is right there in LA. UCSB might be more deserving but LBSU has potential. They also have a very solid baseball program that Ore. St. would love to add. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 26, 2024 17:33:41 GMT -8
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Post by bschmurda on Sept 26, 2024 19:03:38 GMT -8
Pac needs to grab Texas State, make another run at Memphis and Tulane
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Post by sdaztec4life on Sept 26, 2024 19:56:29 GMT -8
I disagree, time is of the essence. There's literally nobody left worth taking other than Texas St who's borderline at best away, but at least we're then at 8 and have a good foothold into Texas. As for having a foothold in Texas goes, SDSU will Never out recruit U of Texas, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, TCU, Baylor, Houston, and yes Oklahoma which recruits hard in TX. SDSU is even behind SMU with their war chest of NIL money. The new PAC members don't recruit hard in TX especially when there is a ton of recruits in CAL. SDSU seldom gets recruits in TX, and having Texas St as a PAC member isn't a game changer. If the PAC goes into TX, I'd rather have a name recognition University like RICE with a high academia. I'm good with the PAC taking a pause, not panic and making a smart pick for #8. Just because they haven't announced #8 doesn't mean the PAC isn't trying to get another team right now, I'm sure they are constantly talking to schools. We shall see what happens, but ANY team that is picked #8, and the New PAC is better than the MWC. |
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Post by sdsuball on Sept 26, 2024 20:05:36 GMT -8
They signed a MOU. LOL. Need to read the fine print. Which means maybe we circle back to them later, but not now. The whole thing with Hawaii and time zones, I don't quite understand - don't you just have them play games in the morning local time? |
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