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Post by soccer94 on Sept 26, 2024 9:49:34 GMT -8
If I am from Nevada, New Mexico or San Jose State, I am begging for a Pac invite and willing to pay what is necessary to get it. UNLV made a long term tactical error. They took some short term cash that may or may not be available to bury their athletic department over the long term. Nevada and UNM would both be great adds for basketball, and every conference needs a Vanderbilt or a Rutgers to anchor the bottom of the football standings. San Jose State has a big TV market, but they are not overly relevant within the market.
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Post by laaztec on Sept 26, 2024 9:49:56 GMT -8
Don’t look now, Sac State just announced they are building a new 25,000 seat stadium and using the architect Populous. I know everyone says no way but they are located in the top 20 media markets in the nation and have plans to build a new basketball arena as well. They will easily surpass SJSU in the athletic front in the next 5 years. I’d much rather take a young program looking to grow than someone who’s done nothing for decades. It's not happening. |
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Post by Cwag on Sept 26, 2024 9:50:44 GMT -8
Don’t look now, Sac State just announced they are building a new 25,000 seat stadium and using the architect Populous. I know everyone says no way but they are located in the top 20 media markets in the nation and have plans to build a new basketball arena as well. They will easily surpass SJSU in the athletic front in the next 5 years. I’d much rather take a young program looking to grow than someone who’s done nothing for decades. I'd rather have UC Davis. Same market. |
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Post by 01aztecgrad on Sept 26, 2024 9:57:00 GMT -8
Don’t look now, Sac State just announced they are building a new 25,000 seat stadium and using the architect Populous. I know everyone says no way but they are located in the top 20 media markets in the nation and have plans to build a new basketball arena as well. They will easily surpass SJSU in the athletic front in the next 5 years. I’d much rather take a young program looking to grow than someone who’s done nothing for decades. I'd rather have UC Davis. Same market. Yep. I was going to write the same thing. Already have a stadium designed to be upgraded to 30k by filling in the end zones with seats. Not the first through 5th choice, but as a fallback option it's better than nothing. |
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Post by sdsu2000 on Sept 26, 2024 10:00:39 GMT -8
Don’t look now, Sac State just announced they are building a new 25,000 seat stadium and using the architect Populous. I know everyone says no way but they are located in the top 20 media markets in the nation and have plans to build a new basketball arena as well. They will easily surpass SJSU in the athletic front in the next 5 years. I’d much rather take a young program looking to grow than someone who’s done nothing for decades. It's not happening. Well, if the 7 MW schools all sign today the not happening gets a small opening. The AAC is looking to expand with Texas State. Sac State is by far a better option than UTEP and NMSU. Just not sure what’s really left out there. The AAC teams aren’t leaving. |
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Post by sdsu2000 on Sept 26, 2024 10:13:42 GMT -8
Don’t look now, Sac State just announced they are building a new 25,000 seat stadium and using the architect Populous. I know everyone says no way but they are located in the top 20 media markets in the nation and have plans to build a new basketball arena as well. They will easily surpass SJSU in the athletic front in the next 5 years. I’d much rather take a young program looking to grow than someone who’s done nothing for decades. I'd rather have UC Davis. Same market. Has UC Davis announced a desire to leave FCS? Because if they have then that would be an option but if they haven’t then that is not an option. |
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Post by laaztec on Sept 26, 2024 10:18:42 GMT -8
Well, if the 7 MW schools all sign today the not happening gets a small opening. The AAC is looking to expand with Texas State. Sac State is by far a better option than UTEP and NMSU. Just not sure what’s really left out there. The AAC teams aren’t leaving. It’s not happening |
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Post by 94sdsu on Sept 26, 2024 10:23:19 GMT -8
Well, if the 7 MW schools all sign today the not happening gets a small opening. The AAC is looking to expand with Texas State. Sac State is by far a better option than UTEP and NMSU. Just not sure what’s really left out there. The AAC teams aren’t leaving. It'll be interesting how this plays out as at this point, unfortunately Texas St looks like our best option for # 8. But if the AAC gets them, then we're pretty screwed as not only are we stuck at 7 and having to take a small / bad option for # 8, the AAC got that much better by hamstringing the new PAC into a small school. I'm thinking the original 4 MWC schools assumed we'd be stealing some AAC schools. This isn't turning out as well as I'd originally hoped. |
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Post by Cwag on Sept 26, 2024 10:30:12 GMT -8
Well, if the 7 MW schools all sign today the not happening gets a small opening. The AAC is looking to expand with Texas State. Sac State is by far a better option than UTEP and NMSU. Just not sure what’s really left out there. The AAC teams aren’t leaving. It'll be interesting how this plays out as at this point, unfortunately Texas St looks like our best option for # 8. But if the AAC gets them, then we're pretty screwed as not only are we stuck at 7 and having to take a small / bad option for # 8, the AAC got that much better by hamstringing the new PAC into a small school. I'm thinking the original 4 MWC schools assumed we'd be stealing some AAC schools. This isn't turning out as well as I'd originally hoped. Anything is possible if you throw enough money at it. |
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Post by Boise Aztec on Sept 26, 2024 10:30:57 GMT -8
Don’t look now, Sac State just announced they are building a new 25,000 seat stadium and using the architect Populous. I know everyone says no way but they are located in the top 20 media markets in the nation and have plans to build a new basketball arena as well. They will easily surpass SJSU in the athletic front in the next 5 years. I’d much rather take a young program looking to grow than someone who’s done nothing for decades. Not a horrible idea… |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 26, 2024 10:34:27 GMT -8
Don’t look now, Sac State just announced they are building a new 25,000 seat stadium and using the architect Populous. I know everyone says no way but they are located in the top 20 media markets in the nation and have plans to build a new basketball arena as well. They will easily surpass SJSU in the athletic front in the next 5 years. I’d much rather take a young program looking to grow than someone who’s done nothing for decades. Not a horrible idea… this would only get them closer to the top of FCS. Sac State is not a real option for another decade. |
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Post by Boise Aztec on Sept 26, 2024 10:52:48 GMT -8
this would only get them closer to the top of FCS. Sac State is not a real option for another decade. You may be right… I grew up in Elk Grove… 200k suburb of Sacramento… small town when I was in school… hearing that Sac State is going to build their stadium and then eventually share it with an MLS team… Sacramento has a strong soccer fan base… but yeah, that is a ways away |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 26, 2024 10:55:52 GMT -8
this would only get them closer to the top of FCS. Sac State is not a real option for another decade. You may be right… I grew up in Elk Grove… 200k suburb of Sacramento… small town when I was in school… hearing that Sac State is going to build their stadium and then eventually share it with an MLS team… Sacramento has a strong soccer fan base… but yeah, that is a ways away I hope they carry through, because even as an FCS squad they deserve better. But they aren't a consideration for the MW either. |
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Post by soccer94 on Sept 26, 2024 11:28:12 GMT -8
There are reports that 6 of the 7 MWC football schools signed binding commitment agreements with the hold out being Hawaii. But only UNLV, Air Force and 4 of the other 5 needed to sign to make it binding. Hawaii may be holding out for either full membership in the PAC or football only membership. The rest of the MWC is now off the table which is fine.
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Post by soccer94 on Sept 26, 2024 11:36:19 GMT -8
The MWC is reportedly offering $100 million to the remaining committed schools. The problem is that money may not exist and may never be available to distribute. The PAC has already filed a lawsuit claiming the poaching fee is illegal and several legal experts have said their case is very strong. It is reasonable to expect that there will also be litigation and negotiations over the exit fees from the departing schools. The MWC can and likely will withhold 2 years of media distributions which may get the league to about $50 million total, but I don't see them getting the remainder without years of litigation. Air Force and UNLV are allegedly supposed to get $25 million each. That would only leave a little over $50 million for the remaining schools to split if all of the money were realized. But if that money never becomes available, how does that impact these schools and what do the schools do if it does not materialize? Do UNLV and Air Force demand their $25 million and give nothing to the remainders? Does the binding agreement desinigrate if the terms are not met?
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Post by soccer94 on Sept 26, 2024 11:48:03 GMT -8
There is NCAA Tournament money too. The MWC has 26 units over the past 6 tournaments (most of which is thanks to SDSU). That is probably around $50 million over the next 6 years, but that is money that the schools would have already been receiving a portion of, so most of it should not be part of any "signing bonuses".
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Post by fowl on Sept 26, 2024 11:51:00 GMT -8
Don’t look now, Sac State just announced they are building a new 25,000 seat stadium and using the architect Populous. I know everyone says no way but they are located in the top 20 media markets in the nation and have plans to build a new basketball arena as well. They will easily surpass SJSU in the athletic front in the next 5 years. I’d much rather take a young program looking to grow than someone who’s done nothing for decades. The cost for the football stadium is estimated at $300mm and the basketball arena $225mm. Where do they get the money? |
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Post by Cwag on Sept 26, 2024 11:52:57 GMT -8
Don’t look now, Sac State just announced they are building a new 25,000 seat stadium and using the architect Populous. I know everyone says no way but they are located in the top 20 media markets in the nation and have plans to build a new basketball arena as well. They will easily surpass SJSU in the athletic front in the next 5 years. I’d much rather take a young program looking to grow than someone who’s done nothing for decades. The cost for the football stadium is estimated at $300mm and the basketball arena $225mm. Where do they get the money? They can ask the MWC as they are spending money like drunken sailors. |
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Post by fowl on Sept 26, 2024 11:54:09 GMT -8
Texas St is the best non-AAC add at the moment. By far.
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Post by sdmotohead on Sept 26, 2024 11:54:56 GMT -8
I still say the pac should throw money at Cal instead of Memphis
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