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Post by Boise Aztec on Sept 25, 2024 7:43:10 GMT -8
Step 1 - Lock in 8th member - Preferably UNLV, but in reality it doesn’t matter… there is not that much difference between UNLV and AFA or Nevada or UNM - just lock in number 8 - this guarantees you have a conference and byes time.
Step 2 - Lock in Gonzaga - give them a full share. You now have what you need to run the conference which would easily be better than any conference other than the P4.
Step 3 - Invite AAC schools Memphis, Tulane, Rice and UTSA for a June 2027 start which is outside the 27 month window which would reduce the exit fees to only $10m. Since you already have 8 schools you don’t need them until 2027. This would remove all of the leverage from the AAC. You then guarantee them $12m in total payout for the four remaining years on the GOR.
I know I am going to lose some of you with Rice and UTSA, but both are in good markets and more importantly both are R1 schools, meaning all four schools would be R1 additions, with WSU, OSU, CSU, USU and UNLV only SDSU (for a short amount of time), FSU and BSU would be R2 universities… this is important for the long term…
Step 4 - Sign SMC and give them a half media share. This will bring the conference to 12 FB amd 14 BB
Step 5 - Now that you have UNLV and the MWC is down to 6 schools, you hope that at least two decide to leave, for example AFA and one other school… then you are down to 4 schools… all you need is one for them to get to 9 and dissolve the MWC… you work with the other two departing schools to align on a payment to them of say $10m per leaving school or $80m that the four remaining schools can share… or you give one of them a “short term deal” which would allow them to play in the P12 for say three years… as part of this deal the departing six schools agree to pay, say Hawaii, $40m over the three years they play in the P12… then Hawaii votes to disolve…
Step 6 - call Calford
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Post by RiffelBooks on Sept 25, 2024 7:56:22 GMT -8
1. I'm tiring of UNLV's act. At this point, I'd rather go with Hawaii for football-only or even San Jose State to pretend to have the Bay Area market and avoid going into altitude.
2. Giving Gonzaga a full share is radical but it unlocks everything else you're talking about.
3. I'm not sure the AAC schools are necessary, but if the TV people want them, then okay. Keep in mind that Rice and UTSA are minor players in those large markets. So are Memphis and Tulane, TBH.
4. Absolutely, but St Mary's might think they can become the new Gonzaga in the WCC, if the original is gone. I've stated the whole time that I want them, but no guarantee that they'd come over.
5. Stanford and Kal are a long-term play, perhaps five years or so.
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Post by Den60 on Sept 25, 2024 8:51:50 GMT -8
Questions I have about St. Mary's:
1. What happens when Randy Bennet retires?
2. Do you really want to add a school that still plays in 3,500 seat gym? And they have been "asked" by the WCC to enlarge before.
3. Enrollment is just 3,800.
4. Had to look where Moraga is.
If taking another WCC, would USF make more sense?
1. Has a history in BB and seems resurgent recently.
2. Plays in a 5,300 seat gym.
3. Enrollment is 10,600,
4. It is right smack in the middle of San Francisco. OK, watch your step.
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Post by dlangford9 on Sept 25, 2024 8:54:25 GMT -8
I think you need a TV proposal to show the AAC schools to get them to come. Maybe an increased deal from CBS/Fox since the MWC deal is ending. Or a TNT/CW/Apple Streaming deal?
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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on Sept 25, 2024 9:02:59 GMT -8
Grab Gonzaga, then increase offer to AAC 3. Memphis, Tulane & utsa/ usf. Call it a day and wait for AAC
UNlV is going to revert back to a dumpster fire. Plus, it’s better to keep Vegas as neutral site for championships
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Post by sdsu2000 on Sept 25, 2024 9:10:01 GMT -8
UNLV is working behind the scenes to increase the amount they receive from the MW to stay. You need to pivot from them now and go after SJSU. AF and UNLV have no interest in leaving so go grab a program that would have interest. They don’t want to be conference mates with Sacramento State. Not the most ideal addition but just get to 8 and make the MW-6 go expand with lesser tier programs so their TV value drops even more.
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Post by laaztec on Sept 25, 2024 9:11:28 GMT -8
If we land Memphis,Tulane, USF and UTSA for 2027 I would offer UConn full membership. Add Gonzaga and you have a pretty good conference.
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Post by Boise Aztec on Sept 25, 2024 9:33:55 GMT -8
Questions I have about St. Mary's: 1. What happens when Randy Bennet retires? 2. Do you really want to add a school that still plays in 3,500 seat gym. And they have been "asked" by the WCC to enlarge before. 3. Enrollment is just 3,800. 4. Had to look where Moraga is. If taking another WCC, would USF make more sense? 1. Has a history in BB and seems resurgent recently. 2. Plays in a 5,300 seat gym. 3. Enrollment is 10,600, 4. It is right smack in the middle of San Francisco. OK, watch your step. Fair questions… I could be swayed |
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Post by aztecfred on Sept 25, 2024 9:55:32 GMT -8
Just get to 8!!! And Utah St has to be the minimum we will settle for? All those other pipe dreams can be dealt with when we know what $$$ we are talkin about.
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Post by sdsu2000 on Sept 25, 2024 10:25:36 GMT -8
If you believe that X rumor guy. UNLV is in debt and has no money to leave the MW. The original offer from the Pac is no longer on the table as they turned it down. UNLV is now stuck and their best option is try to use the MW to get out of debt.
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Post by Den60 on Sept 25, 2024 10:26:46 GMT -8
If we land Memphis,Tulane, USF and UTSA for 2027 I would offer UConn full membership. Add Gonzaga and you have a pretty good conference. If you go that far how about this? Add Creighton. They are kind of an outlier in the Big East, way west of the rest (yes, I am a poet). Has great basketball. And would likely follow UConn and Gonzaga if asked. West SDSU OSU Wazzu Fresno Boise USU Gonzaga East CSU UConn (2026 FB, 2027 All Sports) USF (2027) Memphis (2027) Tulane (2027) UTSA (2027) Creighton(2027) |
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Post by laaztec on Sept 25, 2024 10:36:43 GMT -8
If we land Memphis,Tulane, USF and UTSA for 2027 I would offer UConn full membership. Add Gonzaga and you have a pretty good conference. If you go that far how about this? Add Creighton. They are kind of an outlier in the Big East, way west of the rest (yes, I am a poet). Has great basketball. And would likely follow UConn and Gonzaga if asked. Yep. Good idea |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 25, 2024 10:38:26 GMT -8
If you go that far how about this? Add Creighton. They are kind of an outlier in the Big East, way west of the rest (yes, I am a poet). Has great basketball. And would likely follow UConn and Gonzaga if asked. Yep. Good idea I'm full of 'em.  Also, I have CWAG's credit card so money is no object. |
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Post by mySTRAS on Sept 25, 2024 10:44:48 GMT -8
Questions I have about St. Mary's: 1. What happens when Randy Bennet retires? 2. Do you really want to add a school that still plays in 3,500 seat gym? And they have been "asked" by the WCC to enlarge before. 3. Enrollment is just 3,800. 4. Had to look where Moraga is. If taking another WCC, would USF make more sense? 1. Has a history in BB and seems resurgent recently. 2. Plays in a 5,300 seat gym. 3. Enrollment is 10,600, 4. It is right smack in the middle of San Francisco. OK, watch your step. Moraga is a VERY affluent area. And St. Mary's is far more desirable than USF. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 25, 2024 11:34:45 GMT -8
I would add Hawaii on the same terms they have with the MWC (they can keep their PPV revenue) with the provisio that they build their stadium by 2030 and budget targets. they would be cut if they don't meet those requirements. I would then add Gonzaga. If they balk add in Seattle or Denver for a partial share.
You have 8 fte's with the aggregate 8th member costing you nothing and not dilutive, from there you get a tv deal.
With a tv deal in hand you can have conversation with Memphis, USF, or tulane on joining with 27 months notice and a much lower exit fee to negotiate.
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Post by Den60 on Sept 25, 2024 11:38:08 GMT -8
Questions I have about St. Mary's: 1. What happens when Randy Bennet retires? 2. Do you really want to add a school that still plays in 3,500 seat gym? And they have been "asked" by the WCC to enlarge before. 3. Enrollment is just 3,800. 4. Had to look where Moraga is. If taking another WCC, would USF make more sense? 1. Has a history in BB and seems resurgent recently. 2. Plays in a 5,300 seat gym. 3. Enrollment is 10,600, 4. It is right smack in the middle of San Francisco. OK, watch your step. Moraga is a VERY affluent area. And St. Mary's is far more desirable than USF. And yet they still play in a 3,500 seat gym, second smallest in the WCC after Pepperdine. They have been pushed to build a bigger arena and they haven't. And Gonzaga was the biggest "pusher" involved. And USF has a brand new practice facility for basketball. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 25, 2024 11:42:34 GMT -8
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 25, 2024 11:47:21 GMT -8
And they only receive $1.5M in conference disbursements, so their buyout is $4.5M. |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 25, 2024 11:56:54 GMT -8
Is AFA definitely a no-go for the PAC? I'd only consider them as FB only. |
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Post by 2010aztec on Sept 25, 2024 12:06:02 GMT -8
And they only receive $1.5M in conference disbursements, so their buyout is $4.5M. Maybe their fans are just jaded, but read the comments on that article. There is zero faith the new stadium will be built anytime soon (or at all). If it were already in motion or complete, I'm sure they would be getting the nod. |
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