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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Oct 23, 2024 18:54:30 GMT -8
The fact that you beleive trump is all about the American people..is hilarious...and sad at the same time. He's about who he can manipulate. Dude has not one altruistic molecule in his body...none. "I could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose any supporters"..he knew that from Limbaugh and "dittos"..he also knew "I love the poorly educated". As for me, if he wins, I fully expect him to reopen Manzanar. (the poorly educated can look that up). I get it, Trump is human, not a politician, and says some stupid shi*t. I also get that some can't look past that stupid sh*t. That is why we have the 1st Amendment and should protect it. That said, we also don't have the best options in this election. But Musk is supporting him, Vance is smart, Gabbard is smart, RFK is spot on with American health issues with kids. For me, Trump over Harris is not even close; even if we only get 50% of Trump's promises. I don't see any of the radical collapse of Democracy fear mongering coming from the Left ever happening under Trump. Good luck with that crap! |
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Post by aztecbrothers on Oct 23, 2024 18:58:11 GMT -8
As for the Mein Kompf book by his bed like a Bible, I find that hard to believe. I would find it easier to believe that he would have a copy of the Prince by his bed. I would also believe that there is a good chance that Obama and Clinton have read Mein Kompf and the Prince as well.
It would be interesting to see how each candidate ranks on the MACH-IV test. Based on my observations, I would say that Harris would be higher on the scale than Trump. I have seen that more acts of kindness demonstrated by Trump, where I see Harris only talking about her kindness. That might be due to his ability to donate more $$ with his wealth?
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Post by aztecbrothers on Oct 23, 2024 19:06:36 GMT -8
I get it, Trump is human, not a politician, and says some stupid shi*t. I also get that some can't look past that stupid sh*t. That is why we have the 1st Amendment and should protect it. That said, we also don't have the best options in this election. But Musk is supporting him, Vance is smart, Gabbard is smart, RFK is spot on with American health issues with kids. For me, Trump over Harris is not even close; even if we only get 50% of Trump's promises. I don't see any of the radical collapse of Democracy fear mongering coming from the Left ever happening under Trump. Good luck with that crap! I don't think it will come down to luck because Harris is sh*tting the bed on CNN, and Walz is trying to school Union Leaders on how uneducated their members are for supporting Trump. Not going good!!! |
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 23, 2024 19:09:55 GMT -8
I definitely didn't buy his Bible. I never think you're trying to insult me, because you don't do it. We can disagree and go have a beverage afterwards. I think we're the same in that department. I understand that when I defend something against Trump, it's going to make me look like I'm a Trump fan, but that's not the case. I've said this plenty before, that I would defend ANYBODY that I feel is wrongly accused. I did that for Biden. I've done that for others on here. The difference is that there's so much more thrown out there at Trump. A lot of it is accurate, and some of it is questionable, or not accurate. I understand that Trump provides more ammo, but like to try and set the record straight. I also understand that there are thoughts on here, and in the Country, that would never defend anything thrown out there at him and I get that. That's just not who I am. I'm not saying I'm a Saint and I'm a crusader for that, but at the same time, I don't like it when people throw crap out there to see if it will stick on the wall. A person shouldn't care if I refute what they say if they know they posted is 100 percent accurate. I don't understand why people get upset that I defend something Trump, or anyone else if it's questionable, or not correct. Again, that's just who I am. For example, when he said there's good people on both sides, I've read that he was referring to only the people who protested that weren't white supremacists and we're only there to protest the taking down of the statues. They have said that not all of them were white supremacists, and that's why he said there's good people on both sides, but not all of them. Trump actually says that the white supremacists and neo Nazis should be condemned, not the ones that were only there to protest, and not members of those organizations. Here's the interview where Trump said "both sides." www.politifact.com/article/2019/apr/26/context-trumps-very-fine-people-both-sides-remarks/I definitely think that what he says, at times, gets twisted because of the hate for him. Lambasted him for what he really does say that's not appropriate, but people shouldn't sensationalize what he says either, or put words in his mouth and that goes for ANYBODY John, do you think General Kelley is lying? other generals, Bolton, Esper, Mooch, Pence and all the rest? What we say means nothing, but they know. Historically, nothing has even come close. I definitely think that what those people you mentioned have to say about Trump helped make my decision to not vote for him. I only speak up when I think people go overboard on ANYBODY and post half truths or try to sensationalize what they have said. I don't think you do that. I also understand it when people post anything and everything negative about Trump whether it's the truth, a half truth, or a complete lie because that's the division he created with his rhetoric. I get it. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 23, 2024 20:11:45 GMT -8
IF Trump gets elected you are going to get SO roasted for believing in him when the information was right there in front of you that he's a vile human being (rape, sexual assault, racism, treating his workers badly - firing them and refusing to pay them owed overtime). He has used VERBATIM the wording that Hitler used. VERBATIM. (Vermin, poisoning the blood, etc - and there are f****** recordings of him saying that stuff). His own cabinet members have said how he expressed admiration for Hitler. Trump himself has expressed admiration for Putin and Kim. The warning signs are there, and you're choosing to ignore them out of loyalty to your cult. Be prepared. IF he wins, and he then starts doing unconstitutional things, consolidating power above the Congress and Courts, etc, you are going to look unbelievably stupid. The last time he was in office it was a debacle. And that was with people in his administration willing to push back. He has said he will not appoint anyone willing to push back and say no, regardless of how illegal or unconstitutional his actions would be. Just get ready. Your only hope is that Harris wins. Trump will destroy the Republican Party and do damage to our Democracy that will take decades to completely fix. If he gets elected and any of that Nazi sh*t happens, I will be on here to say you are right. I would hope the opposite of you if none of it happens. You do see that Project 2025 - developed by Trump's own people - is a template for how to consolidate more power in the Executive Branch to make the President powerful enough to override or sidestep the Congress and the courts. The plan is written out, and Trump has said many times that he wants to do those things. Generals Milley and Kelly have said that Trump believes that he should have the ability to do whatever he wants as President. They are Republicans, and, more importantly, very, VERY honorable and honest men. They would not lie about something like this. IF he gets elected he will take actions that a President should not have the authority to take, but he will dare Congress and the Courts to do something about it, and then he'll ignore them when they try. It's going to happen. He's not putting people in concentration camps, but he is going to consolidate power in such a way that will fundamentally change this country for decades. The President will have almost unchecked power. Think about that, too. Imagine a DEMOCRAT with unchecked power taking cues from Trump's example. Doing whatever the hell he or she wants. Something tells me you won't be as blase about that as you are about Trump abusing power. |
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Post by aztecbrothers on Oct 23, 2024 20:41:20 GMT -8
If he gets elected and any of that Nazi sh*t happens, I will be on here to say you are right. I would hope the opposite of you if none of it happens. You do see that Project 2025 - developed by Trump's own people - is a template for how to consolidate more power in the Executive Branch to make the President powerful enough to override or sidestep the Congress and the courts. The plan is written out, and Trump has said many times that he wants to do those things. Generals Milley and Kelly have said that Trump believes that he should have the ability to do whatever he wants as President. They are Republicans, and, more importantly, very, VERY honorable and honest men. They would not lie about something like this. IF he gets elected he will take actions that a President should not have the authority to take, but he will dare Congress and the Courts to do something about it, and then he'll ignore them when they try. It's going to happen. He's not putting people in concentration camps, but he is going to consolidate power in such a way that will fundamentally change this country for decades. The President will have almost unchecked power. Think about that, too. Imagine a DEMOCRAT with unchecked power taking cues from Trump's example. Doing whatever the hell he or she wants. Something tells me you won't be as blase about that as you are about Trump abusing power. Have not read Project 2025. I did hear Trump say he has not read any of it, and he and Vance said it is not part of his campaign. It seems to be more of the Left Media creating more fear of something that will never happen. I doubt that Ben Shapiro would be supporting Trump if he was the next Hitler 2.0. In the below podcast, he breaks down how the media manipulates stories to create a smear piece and get people worked up over false claims. The trust the American people have in the media is at an all time low, and the media is not covering how Harris has been exposed plagiarizing. She will make the United States a bigger joke than what Biden has done. www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpQNg2EutD4 |
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 23, 2024 20:43:30 GMT -8
If he gets elected and any of that Nazi sh*t happens, I will be on here to say you are right. I would hope the opposite of you if none of it happens. You do see that Project 2025 - developed by Trump's own people - is a template for how to consolidate more power in the Executive Branch to make the President powerful enough to override or sidestep the Congress and the courts. The plan is written out, and Trump has said many times that he wants to do those things. Generals Milley and Kelly have said that Trump believes that he should have the ability to do whatever he wants as President. They are Republicans, and, more importantly, very, VERY honorable and honest men. They would not lie about something like this. IF he gets elected he will take actions that a President should not have the authority to take, but he will dare Congress and the Courts to do something about it, and then he'll ignore them when they try. It's going to happen. He's not putting people in concentration camps, but he is going to consolidate power in such a way that will fundamentally change this country for decades. The President will have almost unchecked power. Think about that, too. Imagine a DEMOCRAT with unchecked power taking cues from Trump's example. Doing whatever the hell he or she wants. Something tells me you won't be as blase about that as you are about Trump abusing power. One of the most powerful moves that a president can make is with the military. He dictates their moves. I think Trump's a little more trigger happy than Harris would be, but at the same time his words might just be that, words. All talk and no action to scare off other world leaders. It's an unknown for me, which is a bit scary. |
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Post by aztecbrothers on Oct 23, 2024 20:56:29 GMT -8
You do see that Project 2025 - developed by Trump's own people - is a template for how to consolidate more power in the Executive Branch to make the President powerful enough to override or sidestep the Congress and the courts. The plan is written out, and Trump has said many times that he wants to do those things. Generals Milley and Kelly have said that Trump believes that he should have the ability to do whatever he wants as President. They are Republicans, and, more importantly, very, VERY honorable and honest men. They would not lie about something like this. IF he gets elected he will take actions that a President should not have the authority to take, but he will dare Congress and the Courts to do something about it, and then he'll ignore them when they try. It's going to happen. He's not putting people in concentration camps, but he is going to consolidate power in such a way that will fundamentally change this country for decades. The President will have almost unchecked power. Think about that, too. Imagine a DEMOCRAT with unchecked power taking cues from Trump's example. Doing whatever the hell he or she wants. Something tells me you won't be as blase about that as you are about Trump abusing power. One of the most powerful moves that a president can make is with the military. He dictates their moves. I think Trump's a little more trigger happy than Harris would be, but at the same time his words might just be that, words. All talk and no action to scare off other world leaders. It's an unknown for me, which is a bit scary. The most direct power Congress has is the power to declare war. The principle behind this is that no one person should put the burden of war on the entire country, and such a choice should instead require the masses’ approval. As U.S. Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story wrote in 1838, “ t should therefore be difficult in a republic to declare war; but not to make peace.” This is why the Constitution grants Congress the power to declare war and not the president.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 23, 2024 22:07:48 GMT -8
One of the most powerful moves that a president can make is with the military. He dictates their moves. I think Trump's a little more trigger happy than Harris would be, but at the same time his words might just be that, words. All talk and no action to scare off other world leaders. It's an unknown for me, which is a bit scary. The most direct power Congress has is the power to declare war. The principle behind this is that no one person should put the burden of war on the entire country, and such a choice should instead require the masses’ approval. As U.S. Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story wrote in 1838, “ t should therefore be difficult in a republic to declare war; but not to make peace.” This is why the Constitution grants Congress the power to declare war and not the president.
Who gives a rat's ass about being able to declare war? Presidents have been getting around that for 70+ years. And Biden hasn't gotten the U.S. involved in any wars during his term, so let's not make that an issue, because it isn't. |
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Post by sdsuball on Oct 23, 2024 23:10:35 GMT -8
The most direct power Congress has is the power to declare war. The principle behind this is that no one person should put the burden of war on the entire country, and such a choice should instead require the masses’ approval. As U.S. Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story wrote in 1838, “ t should therefore be difficult in a republic to declare war; but not to make peace.” This is why the Constitution grants Congress the power to declare war and not the president.
Who gives a rat's ass about being able to declare war? Presidents have been getting around that for 70+ years. And Biden hasn't gotten the U.S. involved in any wars during his term, so let's not make that an issue, because it isn't. He absolutely got us involved in the conflict in the Middle East. He got us involved in the war in Gaza - supplying Israel with weapons, building a dock to bring in food because Israel blockaded aid at the border. He got us involved in whatever you want to call shooting down Iranian missiles bound for Israel - I mean that is a military action, using our destroyers and fighter jets to shoot down missiles. Biden deserves at least a D for his foreign policy, and it would make for a difficult decision were he running instead of Harris. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 24, 2024 4:59:18 GMT -8
Who gives a rat's ass about being able to declare war? Presidents have been getting around that for 70+ years. And Biden hasn't gotten the U.S. involved in any wars during his term, so let's not make that an issue, because it isn't. He absolutely got us involved in the conflict in the Middle East. He got us involved in the war in Gaza - supplying Israel with weapons, building a dock to bring in food because Israel blockaded aid at the border. He got us involved in whatever you want to call shooting down Iranian missiles bound for Israel - I mean that is a military action, using our destroyers and fighter jets to shoot down missiles. Biden deserves at least a D for his foreign policy, and it would make for a difficult decision were he running instead of Harris. We do not have troops on the ground fighting. Hamas got us involved in the war in Gaza. They knew damned well that Israel would start a war over that attack. We are just supporting our allies - which every single U.S. President would do. Turning on our allies and not supporting them would negatively impact our foreign relations with every other ally for generations. We are not fighting a war. We did not start a war. Stop with the ridiculous statements. And, by the way, building that dock to supply innocent civilians with food and medical supplies is a good thing, not a bad thing. |
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Post by aztecbrothers on Oct 24, 2024 5:38:37 GMT -8
He absolutely got us involved in the conflict in the Middle East. He got us involved in the war in Gaza - supplying Israel with weapons, building a dock to bring in food because Israel blockaded aid at the border. He got us involved in whatever you want to call shooting down Iranian missiles bound for Israel - I mean that is a military action, using our destroyers and fighter jets to shoot down missiles. Biden deserves at least a D for his foreign policy, and it would make for a difficult decision were he running instead of Harris. We do not have troops on the ground fighting. Hamas got us involved in the war in Gaza. They knew damned well that Israel would start a war over that attack. We are just supporting our allies - which every single U.S. President would do. Turning on our allies and not supporting them would negatively impact our foreign relations with every other ally for generations. We are not fighting a war. We did not start a war. Stop with the ridiculous statements. And, by the way, building that dock to supply innocent civilians with food and medical supplies is a good thing, not a bad thing. Biden/Harris screwed up Trump's historic Abraham Accord that led to October 7th. Biden will most likely be labeled the worst, or most incompetent President in US history. "Love Trump or hate him, the accords represented a stunning advancement in Washington’s decadeslong quest to secure its vital interests in the Middle East by helping reconcile its most important regional partners." |
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Post by sdsuball on Oct 24, 2024 11:54:12 GMT -8
He absolutely got us involved in the conflict in the Middle East. He got us involved in the war in Gaza - supplying Israel with weapons, building a dock to bring in food because Israel blockaded aid at the border. He got us involved in whatever you want to call shooting down Iranian missiles bound for Israel - I mean that is a military action, using our destroyers and fighter jets to shoot down missiles. Biden deserves at least a D for his foreign policy, and it would make for a difficult decision were he running instead of Harris. We do not have troops on the ground fighting. Hamas got us involved in the war in Gaza. They knew damned well that Israel would start a war over that attack. We are just supporting our allies - which every single U.S. President would do. Turning on our allies and not supporting them would negatively impact our foreign relations with every other ally for generations. We are not fighting a war. We did not start a war. Stop with the ridiculous statements. And, by the way, building that dock to supply innocent civilians with food and medical supplies is a good thing, not a bad thing. Oh so, we just have troops on the dock - but not on the ground, which is 100 yards away. Right. The dock is a good thing, that we were forced to do because our ally (Israel) is a bad actor that has been starving Palestinians. His foreign policy in the Middle East has been awful. He has not been able to control Israel, despite sending them billions of dollars. We see those billions of dollars going to bomb Palestinian refugee camps, and now even bombing residential buildings in Lebanon. Use your eyes, and see what's actually going on here. |
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 24, 2024 14:09:19 GMT -8
We do not have troops on the ground fighting. Hamas got us involved in the war in Gaza. They knew damned well that Israel would start a war over that attack. We are just supporting our allies - which every single U.S. President would do. Turning on our allies and not supporting them would negatively impact our foreign relations with every other ally for generations. We are not fighting a war. We did not start a war. Stop with the ridiculous statements. And, by the way, building that dock to supply innocent civilians with food and medical supplies is a good thing, not a bad thing. Biden/Harris screwed up Trump's historic Abraham Accord that led to October 7th. Biden will most likely be labeled the worst, or most incompetent President in US history. "Love Trump or hate him, the accords represented a stunning advancement in Washington’s decadeslong quest to secure its vital interests in the Middle East by helping reconcile its most important regional partners." What exactly do the Abraham Accords have to do with Gaza? The Abraham Accords were between Israel and Bahrain...and Israel and the UAE. The basic bulletin points of "Peace in the Middle East" and recognizing sovereignty are fine, but this had nothing to do with the Israel-Palestine conflict. And the end result is Jared Kushner was able to funnel money in the billions to businesses that's resulted in this. |
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Post by uwphoto on Oct 24, 2024 16:44:31 GMT -8
You do see that Project 2025 - developed by Trump's own people - is a template for how to consolidate more power in the Executive Branch to make the President powerful enough to override or sidestep the Congress and the courts. The plan is written out, and Trump has said many times that he wants to do those things. Generals Milley and Kelly have said that Trump believes that he should have the ability to do whatever he wants as President. They are Republicans, and, more importantly, very, VERY honorable and honest men. They would not lie about something like this. IF he gets elected he will take actions that a President should not have the authority to take, but he will dare Congress and the Courts to do something about it, and then he'll ignore them when they try. It's going to happen. He's not putting people in concentration camps, but he is going to consolidate power in such a way that will fundamentally change this country for decades. The President will have almost unchecked power. Think about that, too. Imagine a DEMOCRAT with unchecked power taking cues from Trump's example. Doing whatever the hell he or she wants. Something tells me you won't be as blase about that as you are about Trump abusing power. Have not read Project 2025. I did hear Trump say he has not read any of it, and he and Vance said it is not part of his campaign. It seems to be more of the Left Media creating more fear of something that will never happen. I doubt that Ben Shapiro would be supporting Trump if he was the next Hitler 2.0. In the below podcast, he breaks down how the media manipulates stories to create a smear piece and get people worked up over false claims. The trust the American people have in the media is at an all time low, and the media is not covering how Harris has been exposed plagiarizing. She will make the United States a bigger joke than what Biden has done. www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpQNg2EutD4Everything that orange cancer touches..dies. Go ask Rudy Giuliani. |
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Post by uwphoto on Oct 24, 2024 19:18:05 GMT -8
Have not read Project 2025. I did hear Trump say he has not read any of it, and he and Vance said it is not part of his campaign. It seems to be more of the Left Media creating more fear of something that will never happen. I doubt that Ben Shapiro would be supporting Trump if he was the next Hitler 2.0. In the below podcast, he breaks down how the media manipulates stories to create a smear piece and get people worked up over false claims. The trust the American people have in the media is at an all time low, and the media is not covering how Harris has been exposed plagiarizing. She will make the United States a bigger joke than what Biden has done. www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpQNg2EutD4Everything that orange cancer touches..dies. Go ask Rudy Giuliani. ps: Giuliani's own daughter says "trump ruined his life". |
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Post by aztecbrothers on Oct 25, 2024 7:01:15 GMT -8
Everything that orange cancer touches..dies. Go ask Rudy Giuliani. ps: Giuliani's own daughter says "trump ruined his life". Some people need someone else to blame. Giuliani ruined his own life before Trump. |
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Post by aztecbrothers on Oct 25, 2024 7:07:06 GMT -8
Have not read Project 2025. I did hear Trump say he has not read any of it, and he and Vance said it is not part of his campaign. It seems to be more of the Left Media creating more fear of something that will never happen. I doubt that Ben Shapiro would be supporting Trump if he was the next Hitler 2.0. In the below podcast, he breaks down how the media manipulates stories to create a smear piece and get people worked up over false claims. The trust the American people have in the media is at an all time low, and the media is not covering how Harris has been exposed plagiarizing. She will make the United States a bigger joke than what Biden has done. www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpQNg2EutD4Everything that orange cancer touches..dies. Go ask Rudy Giuliani. Not sure what you are saying here. Are you saying that Trump should touch Project 2025 to kill it, and to put everyone at ease? Trump should adopt project 2030 first. We need more nuclear energy. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 25, 2024 8:26:47 GMT -8
Anyone questioning General Kelly's assertations about Trump need to read this - several more people from the Trump administration back him up and say that his statements about Trump were 100% accurate - Trump is a fascist and a threat to democracy. www.politico.com/news/2024/10/25/never-trump-former-officials-back-kelly-warning-00185435Ex-Trump aides emerge to back Kelly’s harsh warningsWe have so many people corroborating what each is saying that this now has to be accepted as fact. These people aren't Democrats. These people aren't his political enemies - they are people who worked in his Administration! They know him, they worked for him, they heard what he said and saw what he did. Trump is a fascist. |
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Post by aztecbrothers on Oct 25, 2024 9:58:28 GMT -8
Anyone questioning General Kelly's assertations about Trump need to read this - several more people from the Trump administration back him up and say that his statements about Trump were 100% accurate - Trump is a fascist and a threat to democracy. www.politico.com/news/2024/10/25/never-trump-former-officials-back-kelly-warning-00185435Ex-Trump aides emerge to back Kelly’s harsh warningsWe have so many people corroborating what each is saying that this now has to be accepted as fact. These people aren't Democrats. These people aren't his political enemies - they are people who worked in his Administration! They know him, they worked for him, they heard what he said and saw what he did. Trump is a fascist. Not a good "Trump is a facist" argument based on the below definition: Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived ... However, Pelosi, Waters, and Clinton might be more aligned with being a Machiavellian Fascist? The team Trump has assembled with Gabbard, Vance, Kennedy, and Musk does not support any sort of subordination of individual interests or belief of a natural social hierarchy. No wars/Global Conflicts with US Support under Trump also blows up your argument since militarism is the key component of a facist. |
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