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Post by hoobs on Aug 4, 2024 10:12:50 GMT -8
Coach can do whatever he wants if it results in 6-7 wins this season and 8-9 wins next season (I know, that's a high bar, but I think it's plausible)
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Post by jp92grad on Aug 4, 2024 10:31:35 GMT -8
Coach can do whatever he wants if it results in 6-7 wins this season and 8-9 wins next season (I know, that's a high bar, but I think it's plausible) 9 win season he maybe gone, turning this program around that quick would get some eyes on him ---Sorry to bring this type of stuff up but it's real! |
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Post by junior on Aug 4, 2024 11:05:36 GMT -8
I will be surprised if they win half their games this season. And not happily surprised, either, I might add… could be the end of a long stretch of years being a FB season ticket holder. With TV and ample single game tickets in good locations, they are really on the clock.
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Aug 4, 2024 11:05:42 GMT -8
It's clear this staff has favorite players or promised players playing time part of the recruiting process. Perhaps this is the new norm in the "Transfer Portal" ERA but with previous staff, playing time was based on performance and how you practiced. There are players at the top of depth chart that transferred in and missed spring camp? Can they really be the best player if not practicing and competing? I can only imagine team chemistry will not be good and likely show up during adversity. The prior staff played favorites as well. Last season was the first season in a longtime where players played that shouldn’t have seen the field or got more snaps then they deserved. The RB, LB’s., and DB’s come to mind. |
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Post by sdsustoner on Aug 4, 2024 13:05:09 GMT -8
So why put a dude who hasn't even suited up for practice as an Aztec at the top of the depth chart? Because he has more potential. Just because he hasn’t seen him practice with sdsu does not mean he hasn’t seen meaningful video So handing players spots they haven't earned in an Aztec uniform based on film without a standout past performance like Cooper? It's one thing to elevate the current active leader in FBS rushing to the top of the depth chart, but without a resume to justify a move, or in the case of 3 of the 4 QBs without any meaningful college snaps it's really giving their guys the reps over hold overs |
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Post by sdsustoner on Aug 4, 2024 13:08:33 GMT -8
I see the negative Nellie's are at it again. Why not let things play out and let the players and coaches figure things out. Let me correct myself. I think it's amazing that Lewis places regular transfers without a standout past performance at the FBS level at the top of the depth chart without a single practice in an Aztec uniform! It's equally outstanding that the QB race was Lewis's two guys immediately getting first team reps while the holdovers had zero shot at them. It's really superb the holdovers got fewer reps the entire process instead of as part of the competition. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 4, 2024 13:17:41 GMT -8
Just what does "playing a favorite" mean? Are you suggesting that the coaches are choosing players based on criteria that have nothing to do with the their playing ability? Maybe where they are from? Or what kind of tattoos they have? Come on, that makes no sense. What could make sense is that they are not very good coaches. If so, they should be replaced.
AzWm Read the other posts It means being put on top of the depth chart without a single practice wearing an Aztec uniform It means two holdover QBs getting fewer reps and not with the first team since Lewis arrived while his two QBs he recruited get the lion's share of reps and with the first unit.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 4, 2024 13:20:08 GMT -8
I see the negative Nellie's are at it again. Why not let things play out and let the players and coaches figure things out. Let me correct myself. I think it's amazing that Lewis places regular transfers without a standout past performance at the FBS level at the top of the depth chart without a single practice in an Aztec uniform! It's equally outstanding that the QB race was Lewis's two guys immediately getting first team reps while the holdovers had zero shot at them. It's really superb the holdovers got fewer reps the entire process instead of as part of the competition. Yeah, it really sucks for the holdovers. I guess they need to take that into consideration when there's a change in a coaching staff, or the current coach brings in new transfers. I get it that the coaches sometimes will say anything to the transfer players that they covet, to get them to play for them, but you would hope he's honest with the holdovers, as well. |
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 4, 2024 13:26:24 GMT -8
Read the other posts It means being put on top of the depth chart without a single practice wearing an Aztec uniform It means two holdover QBs getting fewer reps and not with the first team since Lewis arrived while his two QBs he recruited get the lion's share of reps and with the first unit.
AzWmThe problem with simply putting the transfer players on top of the depth chart right off the bat with no practices performed yet and the resumes of the transfers don't justify it, shows bias and really shows that it happened because of promises made to get them there. It can be frustrating for the holdovers. I get it that the coaches will say anything, at times, to get a player, but I would hope that they would also say that it's an open competition and you have to earn your spot, especially since the QB's coming in don't exactly have a lot of D1 experience. I guess that's unrealistic nowadays. I don't know. |
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Post by jp92grad on Aug 4, 2024 13:45:34 GMT -8
The two QBs he recruited get the lion's share of reps, etc. Why is it not possible that in the coaches' professional opinion those two are better players? If so, how is that playing favorites? Perhaps his professional opinion is flawed. Perhaps not. I would value his opinion higher than yours, in any case.
AzWm The problem with simply putting the transfer players on top of the depth chart right off the bat with no practices performed yet and the resumes of the transfers don't justify it, shows bias and really shows that it happened because of promises made to get them there. It can be frustrating for the holdovers. I get it that the coaches will say anything, at times, to get a player, but I would hope that they would also say that it's an open competition and you have to earn your spot, especially since the QB's coming in don't exactly have a lot of D1 experience. I guess that's unrealistic nowadays. I don't know. Another way to look at it is, last years team was an under performing club that basically had 2/3 of it players replaced and the entire coaching staff was shown the door so lets just say last years team was a compete wash-out. There is now a completely new offensive system with new coaches, a new completely different defensive system with almost a new staff and a new Special Teams coach, so yeah I would say any of the playing time from last year on the Mesa doesn't carry that much weight. New Start New Team New Coaches New Players LFG Aztecs! |
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Post by zbt69 on Aug 4, 2024 13:51:17 GMT -8
Let me correct myself. I think it's amazing that Lewis places regular transfers without a standout past performance at the FBS level at the top of the depth chart without a single practice in an Aztec uniform! It's equally outstanding that the QB race was Lewis's two guys immediately getting first team reps while the holdovers had zero shot at them. It's really superb the holdovers got fewer reps the entire process instead of as part of the competition. Yeah, it really sucks for the holdovers. I guess they need to take that into consideration when there's a change in a coaching staff, or the current coach brings in new transfers. I get it that the coaches sometimes will say anything to the transfer players that they covet, to get them to play for them, but you would hope he's honest with the holdovers, as well. Wow the speculation out there has gone to extremes with no evidence to back up the opinions accept ones own opinions. Unless you have been in the meeting, at all the practices you don't have enough information to be making judgement calls. Step back and let the team adjust to the new system |
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Post by wakelaunch on Aug 4, 2024 14:12:25 GMT -8
Coach can do whatever he wants if it results in 6-7 wins this season and 8-9 wins next season (I know, that's a high bar, but I think it's plausible) 9 win season he maybe gone, turning this program around that quick would get some eyes on him ---Sorry to bring this type of stuff up but it's real! damn they haven't even played a game and you are already talking about him leaving lol Man sometimes this board really jumps the shark |
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 4, 2024 14:16:04 GMT -8
Yeah, it really sucks for the holdovers. I guess they need to take that into consideration when there's a change in a coaching staff, or the current coach brings in new transfers. I get it that the coaches sometimes will say anything to the transfer players that they covet, to get them to play for them, but you would hope he's honest with the holdovers, as well. Wow the speculation out there has gone to extremes with no evidence to back up the opinions accept ones own opinions. Unless you have been in the meeting, at all the practices you don't have enough information to be making judgement calls. Step back and let the team adjust to the new system I'm not saying these situations happened, or didn't happen. It was a hypothetical situation. Something that CAN happen. |
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 4, 2024 14:18:33 GMT -8
The problem with simply putting the transfer players on top of the depth chart right off the bat with no practices performed yet and the resumes of the transfers don't justify it, shows bias and really shows that it happened because of promises made to get them there. It can be frustrating for the holdovers. I get it that the coaches will say anything, at times, to get a player, but I would hope that they would also say that it's an open competition and you have to earn your spot, especially since the QB's coming in don't exactly have a lot of D1 experience. I guess that's unrealistic nowadays. I don't know. Another way to look at it is, last years team was an under performing club that basically had 2/3 of it players replaced and the entire coaching staff was shown the door so lets just say last years team was a compete wash-out. There is now a completely new offensive system with new coaches, a new completely different defensive system with almost a new staff and a new Special Teams coach, so yeah I would say any of the playing time from last year on the Mesa doesn't carry that much weight. New Start New Team New Coaches New Players LFG Aztecs! Yes, I can agree with this. I'm just hoping the coaching staff has been honest with ALL players. What I have brought up is a hypothetical, or that it CAN happen. I don't know the ins and outs of their meetings, just to clarify. |
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Post by jp92grad on Aug 4, 2024 15:38:23 GMT -8
9 win season he maybe gone, turning this program around that quick would get some eyes on him ---Sorry to bring this type of stuff up but it's real! damn they haven't even played a game and you are already talking about him leaving lol Man sometimes this board really jumps the shark Somebody turning around this program and winning 9 games this coming season from last years team, that is doing some serious Black Magic/Voodoo stuff and will get EVERYBODY talking. |
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Post by fisherville on Aug 4, 2024 19:55:51 GMT -8
Players can transfer out if they’d like. Lewis has obligation to do what he think is best for the program, not to give playing time for the holdovers that stuck out the worst year in sdsu football for more than a decade. It’s honestly pretty startling some of the posts in this thread that ignore logic. Especially from sdsustoner
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Post by zurac315 on Aug 4, 2024 20:04:11 GMT -8
Favoritism? Is that why Faulk sat on the bench while TC Wright started at running back? It seems that Wright had to get injured for the coaches to realize that maybe Faulk should be starting. Favoritism or bad talent analysis?
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 4, 2024 21:28:44 GMT -8
Players can transfer out if they’d like. Lewis has obligation to do what he think is best for the program, not to give playing time for the holdovers that stuck out the worst year in sdsu football for more than a decade. It’s honestly pretty startling some of the posts in this thread that ignore logic. Especially from sdsustoner I agree that players can simply transfer out if they'd like to. Also, yes, Lewis has to do what's best for the team and he wants/needs to win, so he's not going to jeopardize his win/loss record by playing someone inferior than the next guy. I'm only hoping he has a fair competition. Maybe he told the new transfers that they'll get preferential treatment, so to speak, so he put them at the top of the depth chart, and that's it. He fulfilled his promise. After that, it's best man wins. The guys at the top of the depth chart still have to perform, so the status can change at any given moment. |
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Post by aztecalum on Aug 5, 2024 2:13:26 GMT -8
not a matter of holdover vs new players. It's always about playing the "best" players. If players believe coaches are favoring players they recruited opposed to who's performing best you have no team unity and chemistry thus losing seasons and fired coaches will come. If the "best" performing players are at top of depth chart I have no issue.
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Post by longtimebooster on Aug 5, 2024 7:11:57 GMT -8
Favoritism? Is that why Faulk sat on the bench while TC Wright started at running back? It seems that Wright had to get injured for the coaches to realize that maybe Faulk should be starting. Favoritism or bad talent analysis? Not quite analogous. Wright was a returning starter entering his senior year. And he was no slouch, coming off a season in which he had 700 yards rushing and 100 yard receiving, while averaging an impressive 6.3 yds/carry. Faulk was dazzling in practice and the coaches sensed they'd somehow captured lightening in a bottle. But he hadn't played at the college level, so no telling if or how that practice-field talent would translate to a game situation. Turns out the translation was fluent and the rest was history. |
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