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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 19, 2024 10:15:17 GMT -8
Only when it's warranted. You don't get a free pass in life. Are you going to explain your opinion? You called the Kavanaugh protests an insurrection. Genuinely curious if you believe that or not. The 2018 "Insurrection" was a question for you based on your indication that the Capital had not been charged since the War of 1812. If these "Insurrections" were "real" for either of these recent events, The Democratic Congress could have enacted Martial Law to address the threat. They must not have viewed it as a serious enough "Threat to Democracy" The optics show that the difference between how the media reports and defines a protest or insurrection is based on Party Lines. Can you disprove this? As an additional point, you are making a false equivalency with the 1814 burning of the Government Buildings in DC with the January 6th protests. January 6th was NOT a protest. It started that way, but as soon as Trump sent that armed mob to the Capitol it became something far more serious and sinister. An armed mob tried to take over Congress by force and stop the certification of a valid, fair, and accurate election. That attempt at taking over Congress by force to keep Trump in power is the textbook definition of an insurrection. Arguing otherwise is an argument in bad faith. The facts are on one side only - the one saying it was an insurrection.
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Post by aztecbrothers on Sept 19, 2024 10:33:32 GMT -8
The 2018 "Insurrection" was a question for you based on your indication that the Capital had not been charged since the War of 1812. If these "Insurrections" were "real" for either of these recent events, The Democratic Congress could have enacted Martial Law to address the threat. They must not have viewed it as a serious enough "Threat to Democracy" The optics show that the difference between how the media reports and defines a protest or insurrection is based on Party Lines. Can you disprove this? As an additional point, you are making a false equivalency with the 1814 burning of the Government Buildings in DC with the January 6th protests. That's not a question, it's a ridiculous false equivalence. There was no insurrection in 2018, it was a protest where police dispersed the crowd after they banged on a door. Nobody was injured, nobody was harmed. A gigantic reach and not remotely comparable to J6. Congress doesn't have the power to enact martial law on its own (legally untested without a presidential declaration.) This is truly among the silliest things I've read, but January 6th occurred during the certification of votes and Congress was evacuated once the insurrectionists, you know, breached the House and Senate floor. Yeah, I can disprove it. Open your eyes and use your brain. And no, I'm not. Your inability to understand, though, is definitely problematic. Now, I'm out of the cult for the day. Such an Independent... You missed the questions. How can you prove that the media is not biased? How can you prove that your personal bias based on the information you believe is correct? The answer to this question is key to validate if you are, or are not a racist.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 19, 2024 10:39:00 GMT -8
That's not a question, it's a ridiculous false equivalence. There was no insurrection in 2018, it was a protest where police dispersed the crowd after they banged on a door. Nobody was injured, nobody was harmed. A gigantic reach and not remotely comparable to J6. Congress doesn't have the power to enact martial law on its own (legally untested without a presidential declaration.) This is truly among the silliest things I've read, but January 6th occurred during the certification of votes and Congress was evacuated once the insurrectionists, you know, breached the House and Senate floor. Yeah, I can disprove it. Open your eyes and use your brain. And no, I'm not. Your inability to understand, though, is definitely problematic. Now, I'm out of the cult for the day. Such an Independent... You missed the questions. How can you prove that the media is not biased? How can you prove that your personal bias based on the information you believe is correct? The answer to this question is key to validate if you are, or are not a racist. What a stupid statement. Truly. You're 63?
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 19, 2024 10:48:24 GMT -8
That's not a question, it's a ridiculous false equivalence. There was no insurrection in 2018, it was a protest where police dispersed the crowd after they banged on a door. Nobody was injured, nobody was harmed. A gigantic reach and not remotely comparable to J6. Congress doesn't have the power to enact martial law on its own (legally untested without a presidential declaration.) This is truly among the silliest things I've read, but January 6th occurred during the certification of votes and Congress was evacuated once the insurrectionists, you know, breached the House and Senate floor. Yeah, I can disprove it. Open your eyes and use your brain. And no, I'm not. Your inability to understand, though, is definitely problematic. Now, I'm out of the cult for the day. Such an Independent... You missed the questions. How can you prove that the media is not biased? How can you prove that your personal bias based on the information you believe is correct? The answer to this question is key to validate if you are, or are not a racist. The first wasn't a question, I didn't miss it. It was a false equivalence. How can I prove a negative? I can't, it's not possible. Stop blaming the media for something we saw with our own eyes and have a mountainous pile of data postmortem to draw from. It's silly. As for your last question, it's pretty simple. Multiple sources and research. I'm not a racist, which is a bizarre conclusion to jump to.
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Post by azson on Sept 19, 2024 10:56:01 GMT -8
The 2018 "Insurrection" was a question for you based on your indication that the Capital had not been charged since the War of 1812. If these "Insurrections" were "real" for either of these recent events, The Democratic Congress could have enacted Martial Law to address the threat. They must not have viewed it as a serious enough "Threat to Democracy" The optics show that the difference between how the media reports and defines a protest or insurrection is based on Party Lines. Can you disprove this? As an additional point, you are making a false equivalency with the 1814 burning of the Government Buildings in DC with the January 6th protests. January 6th was NOT a protest. It started that way, but as soon as Trump sent that armed mob to the Capitol it became something far more serious and sinister. An armed mob tried to take over Congress by force and stop the certification of a valid, fair, and accurate election. That attempt at taking over Congress by force to keep Trump in power is the textbook definition of an insurrection. Arguing otherwise is an argument in bad faith. The facts are on one side only - the one saying it was an insurrection. It's pretty clear he's trolling and in violation of forum rules, Erik.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 19, 2024 11:59:51 GMT -8
January 6th was NOT a protest. It started that way, but as soon as Trump sent that armed mob to the Capitol it became something far more serious and sinister. An armed mob tried to take over Congress by force and stop the certification of a valid, fair, and accurate election. That attempt at taking over Congress by force to keep Trump in power is the textbook definition of an insurrection. Arguing otherwise is an argument in bad faith. The facts are on one side only - the one saying it was an insurrection. It's pretty clear he's trolling and in violation of forum rules, Erik. Yeah, it's really starting to look that way. There are consequences for trolling.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Sept 19, 2024 12:00:30 GMT -8
Absolutely, you didn't have any very fine people breaking windows, smashing doors and trashing the Capitol.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 19, 2024 12:01:24 GMT -8
Absolutely, you didn't have any very fine people breaking windows, smashing doors and trashing the Capitol. And putting cops in the hospital!
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 19, 2024 12:11:25 GMT -8
Absolutely, you didn't have any very fine people breaking windows, smashing doors and trashing the Capitol. You have to remember that close to half of America feels the opposite of you, and a few others on here. Like I've said before, if someone truly feels one way or another, it's not trolling. It's not as if only one or two others in the world feel that way. Maybe you shouldn't be so involved here on the political forum if you're going to make threats like that, about someone else's opinion. It doesn't look good especially you being a Moderator/Administrator.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 19, 2024 12:19:54 GMT -8
Absolutely, you didn't have any very fine people breaking windows, smashing doors and trashing the Capitol. You have to remember that close to half of America feels the opposite of you, and a few others on here. Like I've said before, if someone truly feels one way or another, it's not trolling. It's not only one or two others in the world feel that way. Maybe you shouldn't be so involved here on the political forum if you're going to make threats like that, about someone else's opinion. It doesn't look good especially you being a Moderator/Administrator. There are some absolutes where it doesn't matter how people FEEL about them. January 6th is one of them. Comparing that to a true protest is absurd and done in bad faith, stupidity, or political bias so strong that it overpowers facts and logic.
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Post by aztecbrothers on Sept 19, 2024 12:36:14 GMT -8
You have to remember that close to half of America feels the opposite of you, and a few others on here. Like I've said before, if someone truly feels one way or another, it's not trolling. It's not only one or two others in the world feel that way. Maybe you shouldn't be so involved here on the political forum if you're going to make threats like that, about someone else's opinion. It doesn't look good especially you being a Moderator/Administrator. There are some absolutes where it doesn't matter how people FEEL about them. January 6th is one of them. Comparing that to a true protest is absurd and done in bad faith, stupidity, or political bias so strong that it overpowers facts and logic. Erik, You have to remember it was a response to the comparison of January 6 to the British attacks in 1814. I have no idea what fools were at the Capital protesting, burning down Minneapolis and Portland and who is funding these groups. I am all for not forgetting history and have not made any arguments for a candidate. The focus has been on how distraction against the real issues are perpetuated in the media. The name calling was done by Ryan. If you are talking about banning me for addressing Democracy and Hate. Just let me know and I will go away. I should also add that I thought that this forum was at heart for Aztec fans and Alumni. Pinning polarizing posts is a bias in its self. I know we are fighting for free speech on many fronts and agree as a moderator it is important to not influence an open forum. This is an important part of the site to minimize crap from sports talk. Just don't pin any messages.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 19, 2024 12:43:06 GMT -8
Absolutely, you didn't have any very fine people breaking windows, smashing doors and trashing the Capitol. You have to remember that close to half of America feels the opposite of you, and a few others on here. Like I've said before, if someone truly feels one way or another, it's not trolling. It's not as if only one or two others in the world feel that way. Maybe you shouldn't be so involved here on the political forum if you're going to make threats like that, about someone else's opinion. It doesn't look good especially you being a Moderator/Administrator. What doesn't look good is posts like this.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 19, 2024 12:46:04 GMT -8
There are some absolutes where it doesn't matter how people FEEL about them. January 6th is one of them. Comparing that to a true protest is absurd and done in bad faith, stupidity, or political bias so strong that it overpowers facts and logic. Erik, You have to remember it was a response to the comparison of January 6 to the British attacks in 1814. I have no idea what fools were at the Capital protesting, burning down Minneapolis and Portland and who is funding these groups. I am all for not forgetting history and have not made any arguments for a candidate. The focus has been on how distraction against the real issues are perpetuated in the media. The name calling was done by Ryan. If you are talking about banning me for addressing Democracy and Hate. Just let me know and I will go away. I should also add that I thought that this forum was at heart for Aztec fans and Alumni. Pinning polarizing posts is a bias in its self. I know we are fighting for free speech on many fronts and agree as a moderator it is important to not influence an open forum. This is an important part of the site to minimize crap from sports talk. Just don't pin any messages. The last time there was an insurrection prior to J6 at the Capitol was in 1814. That is a fact. You have no idea? You don't say. It only shows in every post. Predictable BLM false equivalence. You literally implied I was a racist. You don't get a free pass when you post extremely dumb things under the facade of impartiality. There are ways to convey a point faithfully that you can actually do that don't rise to the level of what you've already done.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 19, 2024 12:47:04 GMT -8
You have to remember that close to half of America feels the opposite of you, and a few others on here. Like I've said before, if someone truly feels one way or another, it's not trolling. It's not as if only one or two others in the world feel that way. Maybe you shouldn't be so involved here on the political forum if you're going to make threats like that, about someone else's opinion. It doesn't look good especially you being a Moderator/Administrator. What doesn't look good is posts like this. This is not unexpected coming from you. I had the count down on.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 19, 2024 12:51:43 GMT -8
What doesn't look good is posts like this. This is not unexpected coming from you. I had the count down on. Don't post dumb things? What someone believes in the face of actual facts is irrelevant. Irrelevant. To illustrate just how dumb a theory like this is: I believe Barack Obama was born in Kenya. I believe Kamala Harris isn't "really" Black. Both of those things I could really believe in my heart of hearts....but they are utter bull$#!+ and disproven by facts. 10% of people surveyed in 2022 think the Earth is flat and NASA faked the moon landings. Should we believe them, too? This is kindergarten logic you're using. Trolling is trolling. It's easy to spot.
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Post by aztecbrothers on Sept 19, 2024 12:52:50 GMT -8
Erik, You have to remember it was a response to the comparison of January 6 to the British attacks in 1814. I have no idea what fools were at the Capital protesting, burning down Minneapolis and Portland and who is funding these groups. I am all for not forgetting history and have not made any arguments for a candidate. The focus has been on how distraction against the real issues are perpetuated in the media. The name calling was done by Ryan. If you are talking about banning me for addressing Democracy and Hate. Just let me know and I will go away. I should also add that I thought that this forum was at heart for Aztec fans and Alumni. Pinning polarizing posts is a bias in its self. I know we are fighting for free speech on many fronts and agree as a moderator it is important to not influence an open forum. This is an important part of the site to minimize crap from sports talk. Just don't pin any messages. The last time there was an insurrection prior to J6 at the Capitol was in 1814. That is a fact. You have no idea? You don't say. It only shows in every post. Predictable BLM false equivalence. You literally implied I was a racist. You don't get a free pass when you post extremely dumb things under the facade of impartiality. There are ways to convey a point faithfully that you can actually do that don't rise to the level of what you've already done. Who are you to judge. Erik, ban this guy!
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 19, 2024 12:54:39 GMT -8
The last time there was an insurrection prior to J6 at the Capitol was in 1814. That is a fact. You have no idea? You don't say. It only shows in every post. Predictable BLM false equivalence. You literally implied I was a racist. You don't get a free pass when you post extremely dumb things under the facade of impartiality. There are ways to convey a point faithfully that you can actually do that don't rise to the level of what you've already done. Who are you to judge. Erik, ban this guy! For telling you the truth? Good luck with that.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 19, 2024 13:00:03 GMT -8
This is not unexpected coming from you. I had the count down on. Don't post dumb things? What someone believes in the face of actual facts is irrelevant. Irrelevant. To illustrate just how dumb a theory like this is: I believe Barack Obama was born in Kenya. I believe Kamala Harris isn't "really" Black. Both of those things I could really believe in my heart of hearts....but they are utter bull$#!+ and disproven by facts. This is kindergarten logic you're using. Trolling is trolling. It's easy to spot. My post was more about Erik. If he's going to offer opinions on this forum as a Moderator, then he shouldn't use his power of banning someone just because they have a different opinion, right or wrong. Take a out a kindergartner, that's what you'll fight like if an opinion doesn't align with yours. It's pretty sad, actually. Does it really upset you that much, and Erik for that matter, that someone is thinking differently than you? You're not going to change their mind, and vice versa. Lighten up Francis. Sheesh.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 19, 2024 13:01:36 GMT -8
Who are you to judge. Erik, ban this guy! For telling you the truth? Good luck with that. How about for A LOT of name calling. Do you have any warning percentage level? If not, then that says a lot about the moderating here. Bias much? Just be fair. Sheesh.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 19, 2024 13:02:55 GMT -8
Absolutely, you didn't have any very fine people breaking windows, smashing doors and trashing the Capitol. You have to remember that close to half of America feels the opposite of you, and a few others on here. Like I've said before, if someone truly feels one way or another, it's not trolling. It's not as if only one or two others in the world feel that way. Maybe you shouldn't be so involved here on the political forum if you're going to make threats like that, about someone else's opinion. It doesn't look good especially you being a Moderator/Administrator. I love oversimplification.
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