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Post by mySTRAS on Jun 7, 2024 13:33:27 GMT -8
BAY AREA! I was watching the 1975 finals when Rick Barry and a couple rookies (Jamal Wilkes, Phil Smith) swept Elvin Hays Bullets. Before Steph and Klay..sweetest stroke I saw was Rick Barry. Rick was about as arrogant as they come and a real horses a**. His boys were all really nice (I played against Jon, Brent and Drew during my high school years). |
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Post by jdaztec on Jun 7, 2024 13:34:39 GMT -8
Yeah he could be a jerk but he was a great player. One of my favorite ever. I grew up in The Bay Area ( still a Warriors Fan) and had a 6'7" life size poster of Barry in my room.
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Post by uwphoto on Jun 7, 2024 14:37:06 GMT -8
BAY AREA! I was watching the 1975 finals when Rick Barry and a couple rookies (Jamal Wilkes, Phil Smith) swept Elvin Hays Bullets. Before Steph and Klay..sweetest stroke I saw was Rick Barry. Rick was about as arrogant as they come and a real horses a**. His boys were all really nice (I played against Jon, Brent and Drew during my high school years). yes...he was volatile and could be a jerk..I was only talking about his game. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I remember..the Warrios had the best record in the NBA the following year after the 75 championship. they were in the playoffs, and in a critical game..Barry and the young guys were not seeing eye to eye. So , for an entire quarter, Barry pouted and refused to shoot...thus getting bounced out of the playoffs! |
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Post by Ambivalent_Fan on Jun 7, 2024 16:22:27 GMT -8
BAY AREA! I was watching the 1975 finals when Rick Barry and a couple rookies (Jamal Wilkes, Phil Smith) swept Elvin Hays Bullets. Before Steph and Klay..sweetest stroke I saw was Rick Barry. Coach Al Attles coming off the bench and going after Wes Unsel in game 4…still the best brawl I’ve ever seen…Attles was fired up!! |
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Post by docmm on Jun 8, 2024 16:52:09 GMT -8
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Post by imhighonx on Jun 9, 2024 4:40:13 GMT -8
Early this past season I said Ledee looked like a pro. The way he had improved and how he approached the game was very business like and focused. Then when he would get hacked on the road and get absolutely no calls at times he was still very professional about it and stuck with his game. He never got too upset or let his emotions get in the way of the game.
Long story short the guy is a pro basketball player. The tough thing about the NBA is that there are so few opportunities. So maybe he gets a chance and can be a productive bench scorer as a small ball big (sounds like a GSW type of role)? But even if not he should have an excellent hoops career somewhere.
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Post by aztecfred on Jun 9, 2024 7:04:57 GMT -8
Early this past season I said Ledee looked like a pro. The way he had improved and how he approached the game was very business like and focused. Then when he would get hacked on the road and get absolutely no calls at times he was still very professional about it and stuck with his game. He never got too upset or let his emotions get in the way of the game. Long story short the guy is a pro basketball player. The tough thing about the NBA is that there are so few opportunities. So maybe he gets a chance and can be a productive bench scorer as a small ball big (sounds like a GSW type of role)? But even if not he should have an excellent hoops career somewhere. Take Draymond Green's place? |
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 9, 2024 8:06:35 GMT -8
Early this past season I said Ledee looked like a pro. The way he had improved and how he approached the game was very business like and focused. Then when he would get hacked on the road and get absolutely no calls at times he was still very professional about it and stuck with his game. He never got too upset or let his emotions get in the way of the game. Long story short the guy is a pro basketball player. The tough thing about the NBA is that there are so few opportunities. So maybe he gets a chance and can be a productive bench scorer as a small ball big (sounds like a GSW type of role)? But even if not he should have an excellent hoops career somewhere. Yes, I was always impressed with how he kept his composure no matter how ridiculous the hacking was, and from the many foul calls that were never made. True professional. |
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Post by aztecdan8 on Jun 9, 2024 11:42:22 GMT -8
It's be a dream for me if the Warriors as a lifelong Dubs fan. If I pulled any harder for Jaedon, I'd pull a few muscles. I hope he gets a great, real opportunity on any team in the NBA ... selfishly the Warriors would be awesome! Though with Kerr, he often won't play young guys no matter how well they play in games. The Warriors already have a player like LeDee, Trayce Jackson-Davis. They don't have a 1st round draft choice so if they decide to keep LeDee then Kevon Looney becomes expendable, due to his salary. The Warriors currenty have to pay a serious luxury tax penalty. No thanks to Draymon Green. Steph Curry and Klay Thompson. TJD Davis is a completely different player than Jaedon. He has no outside or midrange game, he isn't a good FT shooter - which tells me he will likely never be a good jump/set shooter from the mid range out. He will never be a stretch 4 or 5. He's more of a pick and roll rim running guy on O. Huge contrast to Jaedon's game. Also on D, TJD would be more similar, but the differences are that TJD has netter rim protecting and shot blocking skills, whether on or off ball. Ledee can better guard down to the 3, maybe the 2 on switches, TJD not as well. Plus Looney is probably gone. The Warriors need to get below the apron to avoid punitive penalties including losing draft picks. AND ... if they can pull a trade somehow they will have to dump Looney and others so they still will need cheap salaries. So either way there could be a spot. If not, maybe a 2 way in Santa Cruz. |
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Post by aztecdan8 on Jun 9, 2024 11:50:41 GMT -8
Thisx10 And they also need to pony up to keep clay. lol no they don't Thank you. They better not "pony up". Klay is a greatly reduced player. He turned down 2 @ $24mil/season. Was a huge mistake by him. He's barely worth half of that now IMO. And I'm a lifelong Dubs fan(50 years) and love Klay and his place in Warrior history. But the Warriors are in a terrible position with the cap and Klay will either sign for way less, take a bigger offer elsewhere ... or the Warriors could "pony up". But that would be stupid and harm the team. Plus Kerr is overly loyal to Klay and plays him starters minutes even after he went to the bench. Klay played so badly in many games that his season that he single handedly was the major culprit in costing the Warriors at least 6 wins. It was ugly often and hard to watch. Then Kerr took the first opening to return him to the starting lineup. It'll be loyalty vs being smart for Joe Lacob and Mike Dunleavy Jr. |
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Post by aztecdan8 on Jun 9, 2024 11:56:45 GMT -8
Yeah he could be a jerk but he was a great player. One of my favorite ever. I grew up in The Bay Area ( still a Warriors Fan) and had a 6'7" life size poster of Barry in my room. Same. I was born in 1960 so he was my first "favorite" BB player. Had a huge poster of him in my room, along with Reggie Jackson (another horses ass if you encountered and engaged him in the wrong setting), Fred Biletnikoff and Ken Stabler (I hate the Raiders now and since about 1988). Rick Barry is the most people underrated player in NBA history IMO. You can throw "arguably" in there and I'd buy that- but I'm biased and man he was incredible in every way. |
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Post by aztech on Jun 9, 2024 12:11:26 GMT -8
Thank you. They better not "pony up". Klay is a greatly reduced player. He turned down 2 @ $24mil/season. Was a huge mistake by him. He's barely worth half of that now IMO. And I'm a lifelong Dubs fan(50 years) and love Klay and his place in Warrior history. But the Warriors are in a terrible position with the cap and Klay will either sign for way less, take a bigger offer elsewhere ... or the Warriors could "pony up". But that would be stupid and harm the team. Plus Kerr is overly loyal to Klay and plays him starters minutes even after he went to the bench. Klay played so badly in many games that his season that he single handedly was the major culprit in costing the Warriors at least 6 wins this season. Then Kerr took the first opening to return him to the starting lineup. It'll be loyalty vs being smart for Joe Lacob and Mike Dunleavy Jr. Klay biggest deficiency has been his defense. He's mainly no longer the same player he was after his injuries, plus he's older. Opponents run circles around him now. I think Dunleavy will have to play the bad guy over Kerr. |
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Post by sdmotohead on Jun 9, 2024 12:14:32 GMT -8
I'm assuming there's no new news on JL after all of his workouts with the various teams?
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Post by aztech on Jun 9, 2024 12:21:59 GMT -8
The Warriors already have a player like LeDee, Trayce Jackson-Davis. They don't have a 1st round draft choice so if they decide to keep LeDee then Kevon Looney becomes expendable, due to his salary. The Warriors currenty have to pay a serious luxury tax penalty. No thanks to Draymon Green. Steph Curry and Klay Thompson. TJD Davis is a completely different player than Jaedon. He has no outside or midrange game, he isn't a good FT shooter - which tells me he will likely never be a good jump/set shooter from the mid range out. He will never be a stretch 4 or 5. He's more of a pick and roll rim running guy on O. Huge contrast to Jaedon's game. Also on D, TJD would be more similar, but the differences are that TJD has netter rim protecting and shot blocking skills, whether on or off ball. Ledee can better guard down to the 3, maybe the 2 on switches, TJD not as well. Plus Looney is probably gone. The Warriors need to get below the apron to avoid punitive penalties including losing draft picks. AND ... if they can pull a trade somehow they will have to dump Looney and others so they still will need cheap salaries. So either way there could be a spot. If not, maybe a 2 way in Santa Cruz. TJ-D has much more bounce than LeDee and is a great rim protector against bigs. The Warriors don't rely on their centers to score a lot anyway. Their main similarity is thst they're both 4 yr college players. |
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Post by heuschele on Jun 12, 2024 23:39:37 GMT -8
The Warriors already have a player like LeDee, Trayce Jackson-Davis. They don't have a 1st round draft choice so if they decide to keep LeDee then Kevon Looney becomes expendable, due to his salary. The Warriors currenty have to pay a serious luxury tax penalty. No thanks to Draymon Green. Steph Curry and Klay Thompson. Thisx10 And they also need to pony up to keep clay. Ledee has an edge because he is as good as he is going to get. He is not a project so a veteran team like the warriors could use his muscle and shot. Watching the playoffs it is clear the nba has decided to make the games more physical and stop with the oley defense bs. To me, this is why a banger like ledee would make sense for the warriors. I can see him as a camp invite with a chance to make the squads. Hopefully Jason is working everyday to maximize his game. > Ledee has an edge because he is as good as he is going to get. I could not disagree with this comment more. He was arguably the most improved player in the country last year. Why would you think there is not more room for improvement? Maybe a little more arch to his FT and other outside shots would be more forgiving. He improve so much that I have no reason to think he has reached his peak. if a PG dropped off at FT, shooting percentage, points, etc then I could see maybe having the view that they may have peaked. However, a player going from non-starter to one of bp the best power forwards in the ncaa in a single season I would not think has peaked. Go Aztecs. Go Ledee. |
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