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Post by matteosandiego on May 21, 2024 7:54:06 GMT -8
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Post by LostAztec on May 21, 2024 11:54:18 GMT -8
Can he recruit kids who can consistently put the ball in the basket ?
All the bs about scheme, system, fit, hard work, etc, doesn't mean squat if you can't make a bucket or get a rebound with the game on the line.
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Post by matteosandiego on May 21, 2024 12:44:59 GMT -8
Can he recruit kids who can consistently put the ball in the basket ? All the bs about scheme, system, fit, hard work, etc, doesn't mean squat if you can't make a bucket or get a rebound with the game on the line. You call scheme, system, fit, & hard work BS lol Those are all the things SDSU has built their consistent winning program & culture off of. |
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Post by standiego on May 21, 2024 13:38:37 GMT -8
last season Ledee was the main source of scoring most down low but once in a while he also hit some outside shots or short range jumpers . That led most opponents to double or triple him and most of the guys had wide open threes that they could not hit on a consistent basis and there were numerous attempts
Transfers are they consistent scorers be it 2 or 3 point shots
also wonder about BJ Davis and Taj to go along with the returning players - understand that today's players always want to try their three point shots but sometimes the 2 point baskets can stop the droughts that SDSU often had - would also add the put back offensive rebounding that comes in handy
Was there also an end of the season evaluation for MG from the Red Shirt category ?
Would be encouraged if the new assistant coach tried to involve more movement without the ball and passing for the higher % shots
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Post by aztech on May 22, 2024 14:45:05 GMT -8
I do like his offensive philosophy. This may mean the only guy who will get the freedom to shoot from distance is probably Waters, our best perimeter shooter who we hope has a bounce back season. IOW he'll still be the go to guy like LeDee was, but not to the point where he's the dominant shooter since others will likely be involved in their own way. So overall it's going to be refreshing to see a different offense for a change. |
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Post by standiego on May 22, 2024 16:37:25 GMT -8
would guess that any new coach spends some time with the guys seeing who can do what and what they are comfortable doing - before he states this is the way we are going to run the offense .
Think Dutcher has usually run an offense that lets guys sort of Free lance similar to what some NBA teams do . Also believe his thoughts are that if a player demonstrates he can consistently make certain shots then he might encourage them to use them in a game but Not experiment in games .No surprises during a game
A good coach learns the best best way to put his players in the best positions so they can be successful and the team can Win games . In addition it is still a team game with all the guys have to be doing their part to get the win .
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Post by myownwords on May 22, 2024 17:05:04 GMT -8
If Dutcher wanted a "different" offense than what we've had for years, WHY would he not have hired the coach, or coaches, to do that long before now?
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Post by aztech on May 23, 2024 1:12:05 GMT -8
If Dutcher wanted a "different" offense than what we've had for years, WHY would he not have hired the coach, or coaches, to do that long before now? After seeing how UConn beat us a few times maybe he finally realized that in today's world our defense could only carry us so far. Just a thought. |
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Post by AzTex on May 23, 2024 8:44:50 GMT -8
If Dutcher wanted a "different" offense than what we've had for years, WHY would he not have hired the coach, or coaches, to do that long before now? After seeing how UConn beat us a few times maybe he finally realized that in today's world our defense could only carry us so far. Just a thought. This past season it carried us further than all but 15 other teams. The previous season it carried us further than all but 1 other team. |
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Post by matteosandiego on May 23, 2024 10:33:29 GMT -8
After seeing how UConn beat us a few times maybe he finally realized that in today's world our defense could only carry us so far. Just a thought. This past season it carried us further than all but 15 other teams. The previous season it carried us further than all but 1 other team. Agreed, SDSU's offense the last two years has done enough to get further than ever before. Don't feel that the offense will be overhauled, but in our article we show a few of Coach B's previous concepts at UC Irvine that he could implement into what SDSU does. Perhaps Dutch may add some of these concepts Coach B did at UC Irvine, where they dont get the highest ranked talent, as a strategy to adjust to the changing recruiting/transfer NIL landscape each year. |
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Post by aztech on May 23, 2024 10:37:29 GMT -8
After seeing how UConn beat us a few times maybe he finally realized that in today's world our defense could only carry us so far. Just a thought. This past season it carried us further than all but 15 other teams. The previous season it carried us further than all but 1 other team. And so? |
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Post by standiego on May 23, 2024 11:00:36 GMT -8
Have a group of guys that want to be at SDSU - would guess that most ideas that can adjust or improve the offense would be gladly accepted
Would be nice to have as many of the newer people there for at least one if not both of the summer sessions - with at least 7 players that have not played a game at SDSU and numerous players that have not played that much at SDSU
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Post by LostAztec on May 23, 2024 11:12:05 GMT -8
Can he recruit kids who can consistently put the ball in the basket ? All the bs about scheme, system, fit, hard work, etc, doesn't mean squat if you can't make a bucket or get a rebound with the game on the line. You call scheme, system, fit, & hard work BS lol Those are all the things SDSU has built their consistent winning program & culture off of. Sans the UConn beatdown, every loss was due to poor shooting despite having wide open looks and poor defensive rebounding. So, the rest is bs. |
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Post by LostAztec on May 23, 2024 11:15:27 GMT -8
After seeing how UConn beat us a few times maybe he finally realized that in today's world our defense could only carry us so far. Just a thought. This past season it carried us further than all but 15 other teams. The previous season it carried us further than all but 1 other team. The 2022-2023 squad also shot and rebounded better. Defensive rebounding was our achilles in 2023 and 2024. |
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Post by AzTex on May 23, 2024 13:55:40 GMT -8
This past season it carried us further than all but 15 other teams. The previous season it carried us further than all but 1 other team. Agreed, SDSU's offense the last two years has done enough to get further than ever before. Don't feel that the offense will be overhauled, but in our article we show a few of Coach B's previous concepts at UC Irvine that he could implement into what SDSU does. Perhaps Dutch may add some of these concepts Coach B did at UC Irvine, where they dont get the highest ranked talent, as a strategy to adjust to the changing recruiting/transfer NIL landscape each year. As much as I learned to love defensive basketball under Steve Fisher, and continued by Dutcher, I wouldn't mind a much improved offensive game. Winning still is paramount. |
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Post by standiego on May 23, 2024 16:27:40 GMT -8
If you looked at the majority of HS players Dutcher has brought in lately they seem to be more noted for offense then defense
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Post by myownwords on May 23, 2024 16:37:23 GMT -8
If Dutcher wanted a "different" offense than what we've had for years, WHY would he not have hired the coach, or coaches, to do that long before now? After seeing how UConn beat us a few times maybe he finally realized that in today's world our defense could only carry us so far. Just a thought. To me, Dutcher---at his age, and after the many years of coaching at high levels---does NOT seem to be a candidate for "seeing the light" style of coaching. |
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Post by myownwords on May 23, 2024 16:43:34 GMT -8
Agreed, SDSU's offense the last two years has done enough to get further than ever before. Don't feel that the offense will be overhauled, but in our article we show a few of Coach B's previous concepts at UC Irvine that he could implement into what SDSU does. Perhaps Dutch may add some of these concepts Coach B did at UC Irvine, where they dont get the highest ranked talent, as a strategy to adjust to the changing recruiting/transfer NIL landscape each year. As much as I learned to love defensive basketball under Steve Fisher, and continued by Dutcher, I wouldn't mind a much improved offensive game. Winning still is paramount. Maybe. But isn't it odd that they were picked BEFORE this new coach? It's possible that they are great athletes and will be turned into Dutcther's preferred defensive "giants". |
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Post by standiego on May 24, 2024 9:53:22 GMT -8
Last years HS players Heide - BJ Davis - and MG sure seemed more offense then defense other then possibly MG's possible shot blocking
The 3 incoming HS players or at least Compton and Taj are noted more for offense then defense
Believe the 3 transfers so far are being brought in to assist the offense
Ledee was brought into SDSU to be the force he was down low and scoring ability
Think Dutcher knows that while you do need guys that will play defense if you can't score you are not going to go as far as you hope to go
What are people pointing to from last year besides the great play of Ledee - the poor scoring ability of numerous guys on the team who seemed to dip rather then flourish last season and once their three point shooting dropped they were not able to adjust to making 2 point opportunities or get to the FT line and make them
Do hope that the new coach does suggest that the guys move more without the ball and pass more then dribble - play more team basketball
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Post by aztech on May 24, 2024 15:56:16 GMT -8
Last years HS players Heide - BJ Davis - and MG sure seemed more offense then defense other then possibly MG's possible shot blocking The 3 incoming HS players or at least Compton and Taj are noted more for offense then defense Believe the 3 transfers so far are being brought in to assist the offense Ledee was brought into SDSU to be the force he was down low and scoring ability Think Dutcher knows that while you do need guys that will play defense if you can't score you are not going to go as far as you hope to go What are people pointing to from last year besides the great play of Ledee - the poor scoring ability of numerous guys on the team who seemed to dip rather then flourish last season and once their three point shooting dropped they were not able to adjust to making 2 point opportunities or get to the FT line and make them Do hope that the new coach does suggest that the guys move more without the ball and pass more then dribble - play more team basketball Hopefully this guy also knows a thing or two about shooting strokes. |
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