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Post by RiffelBooks on Mar 25, 2024 10:01:32 GMT -8
Having been to Logan, there's no reason to stay there when another offer comes along. As good as Sprinkle is, Huskies will likely struggle in the B1G.
Someone mentioned Osobor transferring to the Mesa. A big downside is his poor conditioning. He was visibly dragging in their MWCT game against us and even in the win over TCU (I didn't watch much of the Purdue game). He can improve, of course, but you've gotta be in shape to play here.
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 25, 2024 10:42:01 GMT -8
Yeah, but it was a no brainer that they were going to be good. The hype was already there with those two. He also had Mason Falslev coming back who ended up starting every game, and averaged 11 points. I mean Osobor was Player of the Year. I'm glad he's gone as well. Not taking anything away from him. He did an incredible job. Just putting a little perspective to it. Everything is a no brainer. Got it. The team was literally picked ninth in the Mountain West preseason poll, so the brains didn't agree with your surface level analysis. Not surprisingly, I'll have to spell it out for you. It was a no brainer that Osobor and Brown were going to do well. That's what I said. I never said that it was a no brainer that they would make the tournament, or even be very good. Sheesh. Sprinkle did the rest. That's why I said he did an incredible job. You go ahead and do what you do, and make it more than that. He had a great foundation in those two, whether you like it or not.
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Post by AzTex on Mar 25, 2024 10:48:31 GMT -8
Having been to Logan, there's no reason to stay there when another offer comes along. As good as Sprinkle is, Huskies will likely struggle in the B1G. Someone mentioned Osobor transferring to the Mesa. A big downside is his poor conditioning. He was visibly dragging in their MWCT game against us and even in the win over TCU (I didn't watch much of the Purdue game). He can improve, of course, but you've gotta be in shape to play here. I've been to Logan too. I believe it was Gilbert's first road game as head coach. I thought it was a nice little town. It's certainly not a San Diego, but it's not Fresno or ABQ (I'm not going to try to spell that city's name) either. They have a great fan base. But their program probably doesn't have a very high ceiling either. Hard to blame Sprinkle for taking the big time job with big time pay. Just so glad we've had such loyal coaches in Fisher, Dutcher and their staffs.
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Post by AzTex on Mar 25, 2024 10:49:50 GMT -8
Everything is a no brainer. Got it. The team was literally picked ninth in the Mountain West preseason poll, so the brains didn't agree with your surface level analysis. Not surprisingly, I'll have to spell it out for you. It was a no brainer that Osobor and Brown were going to do well. That's what I said. I never said that it was a no brainer that they would make the tournament, or even be very good. Sheesh. Sprinkle did the rest. That's why I said he did an incredible job. You go ahead and do what you do, and make it more than that. He had a great foundation in those two, whether you like it or not. Also, Sprinkle originally recognized their talent and recruited them.
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 25, 2024 11:08:24 GMT -8
Not surprisingly, I'll have to spell it out for you. It was a no brainer that Osobor and Brown were going to do well. That's what I said. I never said that it was a no brainer that they would make the tournament, or even be very good. Sheesh. Sprinkle did the rest. That's why I said he did an incredible job. You go ahead and do what you do, and make it more than that. He had a great foundation in those two, whether you like it or not. Also, Sprinkle originally recognized their talent and recruited them. Exactly. He definitely has a nose for talent, and can bring that talent out of them.
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 25, 2024 11:20:01 GMT -8
Everything is a no brainer. Got it. The team was literally picked ninth in the Mountain West preseason poll, so the brains didn't agree with your surface level analysis. Not surprisingly, I'll have to spell it out for you. It was a no brainer that Osobor and Brown were going to do well. That's what I said. I never said that it was a no brainer that they would make the tournament, or even be very good. Sheesh. Sprinkle did the rest. That's why I said he did an incredible job. You go ahead and do what you do, and make it more than that. He had a great foundation in those two, whether you like it or not. You're the one making it more than it is...all you had to do was say "Impressive job"....but no, you had to chime in with another silly, argumentative post. Osobor wasn't even a first team preseason pick. Neither was Brown. You're using the postseason accolades to make a preseason argument. Just move on.
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Post by tolstoy on Mar 25, 2024 11:21:04 GMT -8
One problem with the argument that he started with 2 studs. Brown was a starter at CSUN and Montana State and Sprinkle asked him to come to USU with him. Osobor never started before this year. He was the backup center at Montana State. To put a finer point on it, Sprinkle was asked how he could be so successful so fast and he credited Brown and the fact that he was able to bring his entire Montana State staff with him so instilling his culture and expectations quickly was easier than it would have been in another situation.
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 25, 2024 11:26:02 GMT -8
One problem with the argument that he started with 2 studs. Brown was a starter at CSUN and Montana State and Sprinkle asked him to come to USU with him. Osobor never started before this year. He was the backup center at Montana State. To put a finer point on it, Sprinkle was asked how he could be so successful so fast and he credited Brown and the fact that he was able to bring his entire Montana State staff with him so instilling his culture and expectations quickly was easier than it would have been in another situation. Bingo. Acting like Osobor was an All-American prior to getting to Logan is just false. He was the sixth man of the year in a bad basketball conference. Acting like it was a "no trainer" the team was going to be good because of Osobor and Brown ignores the complexities of building an actual team in a more competitive environment.
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Post by aztech on Mar 25, 2024 11:27:28 GMT -8
Also, Sprinkle originally recognized their talent and recruited them. Exactly. He definitely has a nose for talent, and can bring that talent out of them with him. FIFU
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 25, 2024 11:33:59 GMT -8
One problem with the argument that he started with 2 studs. Brown was a starter at CSUN and Montana State and Sprinkle asked him to come to USU with him. Osobor never started before this year. He was the backup center at Montana State. To put a finer point on it, Sprinkle was asked how he could be so successful so fast and he credited Brown and the fact that he was able to bring his entire Montana State staff with him so instilling his culture and expectations quickly was easier than it would have been in another situation. Bingo. Acting like Osobor was an All-American prior to getting to Logan is just false. He was the sixth man of the year in a bad basketball conference. Acting like it was a "no trainer" the team was going to be good because of Osobor and Brown ignores the complexities of building an actual team in a more competitive environment. Oh boy. Reading comprehension much? Spelling it out for you AGAIN. I NEVER said that they were going to be good due to Osobor and Brown. You just want to manipulate it that way. Not happening. Sprinkle knew what he had in Osobor, and especially in Brown. I said that he had a good foundation with those two. Sprinkle did the rest. Move on.
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 25, 2024 11:34:30 GMT -8
Exactly. He definitely has a nose for talent, and can bring that talent out of them with him.   FIFU That's for sure.
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 25, 2024 11:45:17 GMT -8
Not surprisingly, I'll have to spell it out for you. It was a no brainer that Osobor and Brown were going to do well. That's what I said. I never said that it was a no brainer that they would make the tournament, or even be very good. Sheesh. Sprinkle did the rest. That's why I said he did an incredible job. You go ahead and do what you do, and make it more than that. He had a great foundation in those two, whether you like it or not. You're the one making it more than it is...all you had to do was say "Impressive job"....but no, you had to chime in with another silly, argumentative post. Osobor wasn't even a first team preseason pick. Neither was Brown. You're using the postseason accolades to make a preseason argument. Just move on. I've always said that he did an impressive job. Get a grip. Sprinkle will be the first to tell you that you're wrong, again. He's stated that the two of them are the main reason for their success, especially Brown. Of course they were the start to a nice foundation. Go ahead and make it more than that. That's what you do best.
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 25, 2024 11:48:28 GMT -8
You're the one making it more than it is...all you had to do was say "Impressive job"....but no, you had to chime in with another silly, argumentative post. Osobor wasn't even a first team preseason pick. Neither was Brown. You're using the postseason accolades to make a preseason argument. Just move on. I've always said that he did an impressive job. Get a grip. Sprinkle will be the first to tell you that you're wrong, again. He's stated that the two of them are the main reason for their success. Of course they were the start to a nice foundation. Go ahead and make it more than that. That's what you do best. I mean, you could just admit you made a false statement...but it's alright. Talk yourself in circles some more, grown adult.
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Post by sdsu2000 on Mar 25, 2024 11:50:55 GMT -8
Problem with Utah State is that they hire young up and coming coaches that have zero ties to the program. You’ll probably get success but you are just a stop on where they want to go. Eventually they’ll swing and miss because it’s hard to knock it out of the park so many times in a row.
UNLV did a smart thing. There were struggles but things are looking better now. SJSU make a good hire who’s not going to be jumping. They just need to invest into the program. UNM should have Pitino for a few years of success because he had his chance and failed.
Don’t go find the next Big 10 coach. USU needs to find a guy who loves the program and city and has been a part of it or a guy who had his shot at a big job and just wants to have a stable career now.
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 25, 2024 11:52:19 GMT -8
Problem with Utah State is that they hire young up and coming coaches that have zero ties to the program. You’ll probably get success but you are just a stop on where they want to go. Eventually they’ll swing and miss because it’s hard to knock it out of the park so many times in a row. UNLV did a smart thing. There were struggles but things are looking better now. SJSU make a good hire who’s not going to be jumping. They just need to invest into the program. UNM should have Pitino for a few years of success because he had his chance and failed. Don’t go find the next Big 10 coach. USU needs to find a guy who loves the program and city and has been a part of it or a guy who had his shot at a big job and just wants to have a stable career now. They need a guy who isn't looking for a stepping stone and wants to plant roots. Difficult place to recruit to.
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 25, 2024 11:54:59 GMT -8
I've always said that he did an impressive job. Get a grip. Sprinkle will be the first to tell you that you're wrong, again. He's stated that the two of them are the main reason for their success. Of course they were the start to a nice foundation. Go ahead and make it more than that. That's what you do best. I mean, you could just admit you made a false statement...but it's alright. Talk yourself in circles some more, grown adult. Ha!!! I understand that the child in you will NEVER admit it when you're wrong, but that's how you trend. You're already too all in with the notion that he didn't have any talent at the beginning of the year, and that's your mistake. Own it.
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 25, 2024 12:02:19 GMT -8
I mean, you could just admit you made a false statement...but it's alright. Talk yourself in circles some more, grown adult. Ha!!! I understand that the child in you will NEVER admit it when you're wrong, but that's how you trend. You're already too all in with the notion that he didn't have any talent at the beginning of the year, and that's your mistake. Own it. Nowhere did I say he didn't have talent. I said he built from scratch because the team had no returning *PRODUCTION*. It was not "obvious" that Osobor was going to be an all conference-type guy, he was a backup at Montana State. Didn't make the Mountain West preseason first team list, didn't make the Mountain West preseason anything. Brown averaged 9.1 points per game last season, didn't make the first, second, or honorable mention Big Sky lists. You're using what we call hindsight and grandstanding to illustrate a point only after it's been made.
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 25, 2024 12:04:58 GMT -8
One problem with the argument that he started with 2 studs. Brown was a starter at CSUN and Montana State and Sprinkle asked him to come to USU with him. Osobor never started before this year. He was the backup center at Montana State. To put a finer point on it, Sprinkle was asked how he could be so successful so fast and he credited Brown and the fact that he was able to bring his entire Montana State staff with him so instilling his culture and expectations quickly was easier than it would have been in another situation. I would even argue that Brown was player of the year. I think it should have been Ledee, but Brown and Osobor had great years. Also, it's tough to make to make first team all conference when you don't have the minutes. He got what he deserved, 6th man because that's what he was. Yes, it was huge that he was able to bring his staff with him, obviously. Everybody knows the system and all are on board. Easier to teach.
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 25, 2024 12:10:25 GMT -8
Ha!!! I understand that the child in you will NEVER admit it when you're wrong, but that's how you trend. You're already too all in with the notion that he didn't have any talent at the beginning of the year, and that's your mistake. Own it. Nowhere did I say he didn't have talent. I said he built from scratch because the team had no returning *PRODUCTION*. It was not "obvious" that Osobor was going to be an all conference-type guy, he was a backup at Montana State. Didn't make the Mountain West preseason first team list, didn't make the Mountain West preseason anything. Brown averaged 9.1 points per game last season, didn't make the first, second, or honorable mention Big Sky lists. You're using what we call hindsight and grandstanding to illustrate a point only after it's been made. You said he started from scratch, and I said he brought some talent with him as a nice foundation. Sprinkle has talked about what it meant for the team to have those two guys come with him. You blew that up, because you can't stand anybody adding something to the conversation that you didn't think of first. That's how you roll. You just want people to agree with you, and shut up, because you know all. Get over yourself. You could have said, yeah, he was smart enough to bring those two good players for a start of a foundation for the team, but noooooo, you needed to squash that. Not shocked.
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Post by sdsustoner on Mar 25, 2024 12:17:02 GMT -8
Osobor has no heart. He quit in the first half yesterday
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