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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2023 11:40:03 GMT -8
It’s a shame what has happened to a once great city. Ever taken in a game at AT&T up there? I have. Excellent park. Saw the Padres there once, I think Brian Tollberg started!
My cousin who is a tried and true liberal told me how bad it is these days, he goes a few times a year for work. I personally haven’t been in 8 years, but would love to go back if they get it under control.
Reminds me of a buddy of mine at the office who is a native New Yorker (he is a Republican) and said he won’t ride the Subway anymore even in broad daylight, with his kids.
So sad what liberal politics and abandonment of law & order has brought us.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2023 11:40:13 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 6, 2023 12:00:36 GMT -8
Ironic that you blame this on "liberal politics" but called Florida a place that was well-run. I think we'll have to investigate that further.
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 6, 2023 12:46:55 GMT -8
It’s a shame what has happened to a once great city. Ever taken in a game at AT&T up there? I have. Excellent park. Saw the Padres there once, I think Brian Tollberg started! My cousin who is a tried and true liberal told me how bad it is these days, he goes a few times a year for work. I personally haven’t been in 8 years, but would love to go back if they get it under control. Reminds me of a buddy of mine at the office who is a native New Yorker (he is a Republican) and said he won’t ride the Subway anymore even in broad daylight, with his kids. So sad what liberal politics and abandonment of law & order has brought us. Josh, "Liberal Politics" is the lazy way out. I was going to games at Candlestick with my brother and Dad in the early, and mid, 60's. There were dangerous parts of SF back then like Hunter's Point. Parts of Oakland, like west Oakland and nearby Richmond, you didn't dare go in. There were dangerous areas in all the large cities of the Bay Area. I am going to guess that you weren't born yet? So when weren't parts of the City not dangerous? Sure there are more dangerous areas now and squalor...but there is also 3 times as much population. Affordability is largely gone for anyone who falls through the cracks. There are less salmon, less steelhead, less redwood forest, less open less water access, coastal areas etc. You have a multitude of complex factors affecting population, stability and homogeneity. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2023 13:19:03 GMT -8
Ironic that you blame this on "liberal politics" but called Florida a place that was well-run. I think we'll have to investigate that further. Did I ? I may have, but I don’t recall the context. I agreed with DeSantis on stopping misplaced COVID fear mongering and opening our cities back up. I totally agree with him on protecting our children from gender identity transformation from whacko parents who are too dumb to understand. We disagree on much. I’m not sure I’m qualified to speak on how well FL is ran, so if I said that —- ignore me, I was maybe a few Pacificos deep.  You gonna try and pretend SF isn’t a mess? Shhhh. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2023 13:20:45 GMT -8
It’s a shame what has happened to a once great city. Ever taken in a game at AT&T up there? I have. Excellent park. Saw the Padres there once, I think Brian Tollberg started! My cousin who is a tried and true liberal told me how bad it is these days, he goes a few times a year for work. I personally haven’t been in 8 years, but would love to go back if they get it under control. Reminds me of a buddy of mine at the office who is a native New Yorker (he is a Republican) and said he won’t ride the Subway anymore even in broad daylight, with his kids. So sad what liberal politics and abandonment of law & order has brought us. Josh, "Liberal Politics" is the lazy way out. I was going to games at Candlestick with my brother and Dad in the early, and mid, 60's. There were dangerous parts of SF back then like Hunter's Point. Parts of Oakland, like west Oakland and nearby Richmond, you didn't dare go in. There were dangerous areas in all the large cities of the Bay Area. I am going to guess that you weren't born yet? So when weren't parts of the City not dangerous? Sure there are more dangerous areas now and squalor...but there is also 3 times as much population. Affordability is largely gone for anyone who falls through the cracks. There are less salmon, less steelhead, less redwood forest, less open less water access, coastal areas etc. You have a multitude of complex factors affecting population, stability and homogeneity. Answer my OP question, please. “There were always ghettos and dangerous places in the world” is a deflection. Thoughts on SF ? The downtown ? |
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 6, 2023 13:31:36 GMT -8
Josh, "Liberal Politics" is the lazy way out. I was going to games at Candlestick with my brother and Dad in the early, and mid, 60's. There were dangerous parts of SF back then like Hunter's Point. Parts of Oakland, like west Oakland and nearby Richmond, you didn't dare go in. There were dangerous areas in all the large cities of the Bay Area. I am going to guess that you weren't born yet? So when weren't parts of the City not dangerous? Sure there are more dangerous areas now and squalor...but there is also 3 times as much population. Affordability is largely gone for anyone who falls through the cracks. There are less salmon, less steelhead, less redwood forest, less open less water access, coastal areas etc. You have a multitude of complex factors affecting population, stability and homogeneity. Answer my OP question, please. “There were always ghettos and dangerous places in the world” is a deflection. Thoughts on SF ? The downtown ? It's as much a deflection as blaming the problems on liberalism, certainly. An exchange between Jake Shields and anti-progressive Matt Shellenberger...man, I don't have enough popcorn. Crime. Crime is a multi-faceted problem. One of the corroborating elements of crime is often poverty, a byproduct of a system of inequality where the income gap and distribution continue to widen. Considering the economy historically performs better under Democrat leadership than Republican, I'd say there's blame to go around. It makes no difference what city you pick. If you want to find a problem with it, you will. Downtown San Diego? Still problematic. LA? Ditto. New York? Same. Every major city has warts, has crime or other inherent issues. It's unavoidable. Where's the battle cry for Colorado Springs, where homicide rates went up over 180% in the last four years? Republican leadership there. Jacksonville? The problem isn't liberal politics, the problem is a complicated mess of demographics, socioeconomic pitfalls, density and a host of other factors. |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Apr 6, 2023 14:01:19 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2023 14:55:16 GMT -8
You’re perhaps the most limited poster intellectually I’ve seen on this forum. The above post misses the mark on so many levels and could be so easily thrashed, but I’ve chosen to ignore you and block your future posts. The guy just runs to google and googles “most dangerous cities” with no context nor sorted relevant data. Ha! My guess is, you’re the guy at his families Thanksgiving table that embarrasses himself trying to talk politics and the rest of the kinfolk look forward to your departure. Ugh. |
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 6, 2023 15:16:59 GMT -8
Josh, "Liberal Politics" is the lazy way out. I was going to games at Candlestick with my brother and Dad in the early, and mid, 60's. There were dangerous parts of SF back then like Hunter's Point. Parts of Oakland, like west Oakland and nearby Richmond, you didn't dare go in. There were dangerous areas in all the large cities of the Bay Area. I am going to guess that you weren't born yet? So when weren't parts of the City not dangerous? Sure there are more dangerous areas now and squalor...but there is also 3 times as much population. Affordability is largely gone for anyone who falls through the cracks. There are less salmon, less steelhead, less redwood forest, less open less water access, coastal areas etc. You have a multitude of complex factors affecting population, stability and homogeneity. Answer my OP question, please. “There were always ghettos and dangerous places in the world” is a deflection. Thoughts on SF ? The downtown ? Josh, it is not a deflection, but an attempt for you to dig deeper. The way California has been built out, taking demographics, population and land use changes into account is not sustainable. All of the warts and problems we face are based on that. If you look at a segment of California, the well to do enclaves, for example Los Altos hills, Rancho Santa Fe, Malibu, Alamo, Lafayette and on and on. You see a family of 3 or 4 (Dems and Republicans btw) with a 6 car garage, 4,000 sq. foot houses on 1 acre using the water and energy of a village of 2000 in third World. These areas stay separate with a strong NIMBY position and loads of cash to hire lawyers. It occurs in the cities as well of course, such as the rich areas of SF. Meanwhile you have a population that has greatly expanded in the last 50 years that have not nearly the opportunities for housing, food, employment and mental health that there was before. Remember that the large mental institution system of California was closed in the 80's..and you can look up who did that! If you look at history, every large society, Greeks, Mayan, Romans and on and on have had a beginning, a middle and an eventual decline. We are in a decline... because IMO we have exceeded critical mass and carrying capacity. Historically, we can look at the Polynesians. When an island reached a stage of tension, resource over utilization etc. They would load up a couple large canoes with men and women, pigs, poultry plants and look for a new island and fresh start. The lottery were those who found uninhabited Hawaii a mere 1400 years ago. Unfortunately, there are no more Hawaii's. Beleive me I feel for you, and no one loves California more than me...but believe me..it is much much more complex than politics. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2023 18:07:22 GMT -8
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 10, 2023 18:33:32 GMT -8
Afraid to say, but certain areas of big cities in America have gone Mad Max, and they are never coming back IMO. But, it is incremental. I came out of a concert at Winterland (famous rock venue in SF) one night in 1973, and every single car on both sides of the street for two blocks had their windows bashed in...plus my girl friend's purse got stolen in the show..so hasn't always been rosy. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2023 6:28:55 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2023 6:30:00 GMT -8
Doug ain’t wrong.
“The right sucks and so do you” —yep.
Politics is at an all time low, I’d say. Bunch of assholes.
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 13, 2023 8:12:32 GMT -8
Doug ain’t wrong. “The right sucks and so do you” —yep. Politics is at an all time low, I’d say. Bunch of assholes. Politicians overwhelmed by the tasks at hand (due to rapidly changing technological and societal changes)...and retreating into their respective bunkers. |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Apr 13, 2023 11:19:28 GMT -8
The State with the Biggest Increase in Homelessness isn't New York or Californiawww.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/the-state-with-the-biggest-increase-in-homelessness-isn-t-new-york-or-california-according-to-data-see-the-top-14/ss-AA19M5yl?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f4e6ade9bce34eece4dc9188f59211c4&ei=22#image=14Top 10 US States with Drug Overdose Deaths1. West Virginia: 41.5 per 100,000 people 2. New Hampshire: 34.3 per 100,000 people 3. Kentucky: 29.9 per 100,000 people 4. Ohio: 29.9 per 100,000 people 5. Rhode Island: 28.2 per 100,000 people 6. Pennsylvania: 26.3 per 100,000 people 7. Massachusetts: 25.7 per 100,000 people 8. New Mexico: 25.3 per 100,000 people 9. Utah: 23.4 per 100,000 people 10.Tennessee: 22.2 per 100,000 people americanaddictioncenters.org/overdose/top-10-us-states
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 13, 2023 11:24:30 GMT -8
To answer the question. Ah, heck no!!!
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 13, 2023 11:25:32 GMT -8
I used to love to visit there. I looked forward to getting the bowl of clam chowder in the sour dough bowl. Yummy.
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Apr 13, 2023 11:42:56 GMT -8
States Ranked By Property Tax 1. Hawaii 2. Alabama (R) 3. Colorado 4. Louisiana (R) 5. District of Columbia 6. South Carolina (R) 7. Delaware 8. West Virginia (R) 9.Nevada (R) 10.Wyoming (R) 11. Arkansas (R) 12. Utah (R) 13. Arizona (R) 14. Idaho (R) 15. Tennessee 16. California17. New Mexico 18. Mississippi (R) 19. Virginia (R) 20. Montana (R) 21. North Carolina (R) 22. Indiana (R) 23. Kentucky (R) 24. Florida (R) 25. Oklahoma (R) 26. Georgia (R) www.rocketmortgage.com/learn/property-taxes-by-state
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2023 12:10:38 GMT -8
I used to love to visit there. I looked forward to getting the bowl of clam chowder in the sour dough bowl. Yummy. Used to have some epic blues bands down at the pier restaurants. AT&T is in my top 3 favorite ballparks to visit. You ever gone? Place is legit. |
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