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Post by standiego on Feb 26, 2023 15:20:54 GMT -8
I thought Heide was seen more of a 5 then a 4
Bryd can he also play the 3 if need be
I would guess that Ledee would prefer more time at the 4 then at the 5 - where ever he plays next season - that is why Evans would be a good addition
Aztecs also were looking at Brady D. if he can get out of his commitment from N.D .
Big question Does Ledee want to come back if he is slated to be playing more of the 5 position - I have no clue if there have been any talks with the coaches but think he would want to play a position that he would hope to play in the NBA
any thoughts on DT -
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Post by jp92grad on Feb 26, 2023 16:02:17 GMT -8
Evans looks like a 1-2 year project then most likely off to the NBA or some other professional league. He is still very raw with very limited play against really top notch opponents and once he goes up against other tall players with higher level skills then it will show what his true worth (skill set) is at that time. The way things are set right now with this team and players he would be a really good fit playing behind and with Ledee and DJ next year and then splitting time with DJ the following year.
Evans and Dunlop added to Heide and Davis would be an outstanding High School recruiting class* along with 1 or 2 Transfer Portal guys.
All these talks are going to be much different once they find out who is coming back next year and know what the roster looks like.
Dates: Transfer Portal (Basketball) March 13th - May 11th NLI (Basketball) April 12th - May 17th
*5 scholarships open already for next year, 3 more in question for Super Senior year and maybe even a unknown transfer out of program or two? ? ?
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Post by standiego on Feb 26, 2023 17:54:03 GMT -8
Correct there will be 5 scholarships for next season but believe 2 are being used by next season's HS players coming in Heide and Davis
So 3 for sure
Then it becomes the movement of players - What Super Seniors leave ( Keshad , Ledee or DT ) if any leave it would add to the amount of scholarship
If the Aztecs add either Evans or Brady they take scholarships
So numerous moving moving parts and confident all the guys here now are focused on getting into MM and finally winning some games
Could also add but doubt - that the underclass men want to transfer out but you never know
Most important do well finishing MW and then MM
Then we can chat
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Post by Gundo on Feb 27, 2023 12:07:00 GMT -8
Evans looks like a 1-2 year project then most likely off to the NBA or some other professional league. He is still very raw with very limited play against really top notch opponents and once he goes up against other tall players with higher level skills then it will show what his true worth (skill set) is at that time. The way things are set right now with this team and players he would be a really good fit playing behind and with Ledee and DJ next year and then splitting time with DJ the following year. Evans and Dunlop added to Heide and Davis would be an outstanding High School recruiting class* along with 1 or 2 Transfer Portal guys. All these talks are going to be much different once they find out who is coming back next year and know what the roster looks like. Dates:Transfer Portal (Basketball) March 13th - May 11th NLI (Basketball) April 12th - May 17th *5 scholarships open already for next year, 3 more in question for Super Senior year and maybe even a unknown transfer out of program or two? ? ? Does Evans wait for for the portal moves, before he makes a final decision? Assume the list of schools will grow again, beyond the short list.
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Post by standiego on Feb 27, 2023 13:00:27 GMT -8
I would hope he looks at what players are leaving a school , what players are coming into a school . Although that list may not be complete for a while .
My U of M friend back in the Twin Cities tells me that he has a friend on the U of M basketball team and that he said he may not be going back to the U of M . So he decided to reopen his commitment .
While he is still a raw talent being a 7 ft player sure makes him valuable to almost every team and they would keep a scholarship open for him
Would wonder if he would come to SDSU -it could solidify the 5 spot for the Aztecs - allow Ledee to play more at the 4 position - where he would most likely prefer to play in the NBA -
Have no clue as to what Aztec coaches think of the development of Shay Johnson
In addition is Heide slotted for more time at the 5 or the 4 or both
We do have to remember HS freshmen do take some time to get up to acclimate to the college game and school - in addition Dutcher likes experienced players
Do hope the Aztecs can keep Ledee
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Post by sdcoug on Feb 28, 2023 13:36:40 GMT -8
He'll end up at Florida St or TCU. Don't think we have any interest in him at this point.
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Post by standiego on Feb 28, 2023 16:15:55 GMT -8
appreciate the update - so do the coaches even ask if he has any interest or just take a pass or do the coaches have confidence in the improvement of Shay Johnson
Have you any idea if the Coaches see Heide as more of a 5 or 4
In addition any thoughts on who of the seniors might come back next season Keshad , Ledee , DT
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Post by aztecron on Feb 28, 2023 16:32:44 GMT -8
Just my opinion here, but LeDee is going to need a whole lot of work if he's going to play the 4. His game is built around the basket anything beyond 12 feet is almost always short. He'll need to reshape his body, learn how to dribble in traffic and create a jump shot from mid-range to the three point line if he's going to play the 4 in my opinion. And he'll have to learn all that in one off season, I just don't see it. Stick to what you do best.
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Post by fisherville on Feb 28, 2023 16:45:36 GMT -8
Just my opinion here, but LeDee is going to need a whole lot of work if he's going to play the 4. His game is built around the basket anything beyond 12 feet is almost always short. He'll need to reshape his body, learn how to dribble in traffic and create a jump shot from mid-range to the three point line if he's going to play the 4 in my opinion. And he'll have to learn all that in one off season, I just don't see it. Stick to what you do best. Ledee already plays a ton of 4 offensively. Whenever he plays next to arop (which happens fairly often) he is the 4. And the Ledee/Arop front court pairing has done very well.
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Post by aztecron on Feb 28, 2023 21:39:36 GMT -8
Just my opinion here, but LeDee is going to need a whole lot of work if he's going to play the 4. His game is built around the basket anything beyond 12 feet is almost always short. He'll need to reshape his body, learn how to dribble in traffic and create a jump shot from mid-range to the three point line if he's going to play the 4 in my opinion. And he'll have to learn all that in one off season, I just don't see it. Stick to what you do best. Ledee already plays a ton of 4 offensively. Whenever he plays next to arop (which happens fairly often) he is the 4. And the Ledee/Arop front court pairing has done very well. I get it, my point is he's not going to be a four who shoots the three. He makes his money inside the key. I totally agree that front court pairing has done well, there was talk of LeDee supposedly wanting to play more outside than inside and I think that is what Standiego is implying in his references to LeDee. My point was LeDee should do what he does best and that is playing inside the key as he has done so far.
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Post by sdsuball on Feb 28, 2023 23:15:10 GMT -8
Ledee already plays a ton of 4 offensively. Whenever he plays next to arop (which happens fairly often) he is the 4. And the Ledee/Arop front court pairing has done very well. I get it, my point is he's not going to be a four who shoots the three. He makes his money inside the key. I totally agree that front court pairing has done well, there was talk of LeDee supposedly wanting to play more outside than inside and I think that is what Standiego is implying in his references to LeDee. My point was LeDee should do what he does best and that is playing inside the key as he has done so far. No, you're comment is off, he's a solid outside shooter. He makes a lot of shots at the high elbow, and he has a very smooth jump shot. He is capable of making open 3's.
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Post by Gundo on Feb 28, 2023 23:23:06 GMT -8
Louisville, the landing spot? If Evans was drafted today, he’d have the fourth-longest wingspan in the NBA, stands 7’1, has a 7’7″ wingspan, and a 9’7″ standing reach.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2023 5:45:06 GMT -8
For what my 2 cents are worth...I think LeDee is and wants very much to play the 4 and I think Heide is a 4, rather than a 5. Heide will easily get pushed around at the 5. He's not physically ready. But, then we'd be overloaded at the 4 with LeDee, possibly KJ (unless he improves his midrange game and can play the 3) and Saunders. We've got Parrish and Byrd at the 3 unless one of them plays the 2. Butler and Davis at the 1. Need a portal 5 to go with DJ and part time LeDee and a portal 1 who is 6' 3"+ to hopefully replace Trammel who I'd like to see Xfer out (but probably won't).
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Post by aztecron on Mar 1, 2023 8:19:10 GMT -8
I get it, my point is he's not going to be a four who shoots the three. He makes his money inside the key. I totally agree that front court pairing has done well, there was talk of LeDee supposedly wanting to play more outside than inside and I think that is what Standiego is implying in his references to LeDee. My point was LeDee should do what he does best and that is playing inside the key as he has done so far. No, you're comment is off, he's a solid outside shooter. He makes a lot of shots at the high elbow, and he has a very smooth jump shot. He is capable of making open 3's. I thought the elbow was part of the key, no? I said he was money in the key. Anything outside is mostly short, front of the rim type shot. You could be right although I've watched every game this season and haven't seen what you say, but okay. And just to say it out loud he is taken only nine three point shots this season and missed them all. I love this kid but do what you do best is all I'm saying.
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Post by jcljorgenson on Mar 1, 2023 9:47:26 GMT -8
We are kind of getting off topic, but I think Ledee is perfect at the 4 spot. The 1, 2 and 3-spots should be comfortable shooting a 3FG, but the 4- and 5-spots should be near the paint with limited attempts that deep. Ledee actually played guard up to his growth spurt, so he has the ball handling and shooting skills to play on the perimeter, but it's not where I would like him. We already tend to have 3 guys standing around the 3FG line, don't need a fourth (except for setting screens).
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Post by aztecfred on Mar 1, 2023 16:28:08 GMT -8
We are kind of getting off topic, but I think Ledee is perfect at the 4 spot. The 1, 2 and 3-spots should be comfortable shooting a 3FG, but the 4- and 5-spots should be near the paint with limited attempts that deep. Ledee actually played guard up to his growth spurt, so he has the ball handling and shooting skills to play on the perimeter, but it's not where I would like him. We already tend to have 3 guys standing around the 3FG line, don't need a fourth (except for setting screens). Sorry but, has no handles and should stay within 15 ft.
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Post by jcljorgenson on Mar 1, 2023 16:40:02 GMT -8
We are kind of getting off topic, but I think Ledee is perfect at the 4 spot. The 1, 2 and 3-spots should be comfortable shooting a 3FG, but the 4- and 5-spots should be near the paint with limited attempts that deep. Ledee actually played guard up to his growth spurt, so he has the ball handling and shooting skills to play on the perimeter, but it's not where I would like him. We already tend to have 3 guys standing around the 3FG line, don't need a fourth (except for setting screens). Sorry but, has no handles and should stay within 15 ft. Isn't that exactly what I said or was my message confusing (other than I didn't point out bad handles)? My point was he should be staying in the paint (which is why he is great for the 4-spot).
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Post by standiego on Mar 1, 2023 17:32:33 GMT -8
So what position would Ledee be better at in the NBA or other Pro Leagues the 4 or would he be able to play the 5
If Keshad comes back would guess he is the starter at the 4 -
Ledee could be a player similar to Josh Davis but some additional skills - AG has also shown that a player playing 25 minutes or more could easily record a double double most nights but have no clue what his exact hopes are for next season - stay at SDSU or if he is grad transfer can go any where . By the way was also a 4.0 one semester at SDSU
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Post by aztecfred on Mar 1, 2023 17:51:44 GMT -8
Sorry but, has no handles and should stay within 15 ft. Isn't that exactly what I said or was my message confusing (other than I didn't point out bad handles)? My point was he should be staying in the paint (which is why he is great for the 4-spot). I was confused so...we agree get, stay in the paint and get rebounds.
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Post by sdcoug on Mar 3, 2023 15:00:27 GMT -8
Sorry but, has no handles and should stay within 15 ft. Isn't that exactly what I said or was my message confusing (other than I didn't point out bad handles)? My point was he should be staying in the paint (which is why he is great for the 4-spot). ?? You're contradicting yourself. Most 4s don't live in the paint, and definitely should have decent handles. He can't play around the perimeter & he definitely doesn't have decent handles. He's the counterpoint to being "great for the 4-spot". He's one of our worst shooters, period. He's shooting 24% from the floor on ALL jumpers combined, which ranks in the 4th percentile nationally when it comes to shooting efficiency per Synergy. He's shooting 23.7% on catch & shoot jumpers (3rd percentile), and is showing 31% on jump shots within 17 feet (28th percentile), 31% on shots 17-3-pt line (35th percentile) & he has yet to make a 3. He's great AT THE RIM - 72%, 93rd percentile. Nate even shoots better - he just doesn't take very many. I agree I like the twin towers at times, where both are basically playing the "5" role. Working FT line in, and taking 85% of their shots up close. Keshad's not a good shooter, but he's better than LeDee. And he can occasionally stretch floor (25% vs 0%), and has much better handles. Saunders I believe will be a very good 4 moving forward as well. The only way I see LeDee playing a lot at the 4 is if a) Keshad leaves, and/or b) we get higher tier 5 in the portal, which will be tough to do. Not many portal 5's will come here knowing Ledee, Shay & Heide are on the team. Shay is not pushing LeDee to the 4, but he can be an adequate backup for a year until he develops further.
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