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Post by standiego on Apr 26, 2023 9:50:37 GMT -8
Major Business Deal involving TV Media - 2 P5 Conferences and a good amount of Money
So both sides are trying to leverage their side as being the better positioned one - will put out there for all followers or opponents - their point of view - correct or incorrect - information or misinformation- facts or alternative facts depending on what you want to believe
follow it as you see fit or wait until there is actual news -
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Post by Den60 on Apr 26, 2023 9:52:48 GMT -8
I have no idea how credible he is. As I've said all along, I don't trust any of these guys. I don't trust any sources, even my own. But at least all the other vloggers will have somebody to quote now and things will liven up a little. LOL.. My instinct is that it is probably a decent contract -- meaning enough linear and enough money that the PAC accepts it and schools probably don't jump. Why would GK even present the contract now if he didn't think that he could sell it? I'm less sure about it being enough to expand. The only scenario that I don't want is for the PAC to fall apart all at once, because if that happens then Fresno (and San Diego State) are two of maybe 8 schools trying to get 4 seats at the Big 12's table. Those odds are a tad too long for my liking, and I'm sure for yours. I mean unless you think that your "agreement" with the Big 12 would get you in even if Oregon, Washington, Utah and one of the Arizona schools wants in... I agree with what you're saying completely, but I feel, and Altimore and many other do too, that the Big 12's PR firm is just constantly throwing out bull$#!+ so..., whatever. So many of these dudes are just click-baiting the hell out of us its amazing. They get paid by how many clicks they get. |
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Post by Yoda on Apr 26, 2023 10:00:07 GMT -8
Damn Damn Damn Damn...
I saw a report that this was actually posted on February 28th. I don't find that date myself but if you look at the comments, there are there are some that go back a month. So I f*ed up again.
I'm sorry to have wasted your time. I do the best that I can but I'm an old guy and tech doesn't come easy for me.
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Post by Boise Aztec on Apr 26, 2023 10:01:59 GMT -8
It's the Monty Show, no credibility whatsoever. I have no idea how credible he is. As I've said all along, I don't trust any of these guys. I don't trust any sources, even my own. But at least all the other vloggers will have somebody to quote now and things will liven up a little. LOL.. My instinct is that it is probably a decent contract -- meaning enough linear and enough money that the PAC accepts it and schools probably don't jump. Why would GK even present the contract now if he didn't think that he could sell it? I'm less sure about it being enough to expand. The only scenario that I don't want is for the PAC to fall apart all at once, because if that happens then Fresno (and San Diego State) are two of maybe 8 schools trying to get 4 seats at the Big 12's table. Those odds are a tad too long for my liking, and I'm sure for yours. I mean unless you think that your "agreement" with the Big 12 would get you in even if Oregon, Washington, Utah and one of the Arizona schools wants in... 1. Oregon 2. Washington 3. ASU 4. Colorado 5. SDSU 6. Cal 7. Stanford 8. Arizona 9. Utah 10. WSU 11. OSU 12. FSU |
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Post by aztech on Apr 26, 2023 10:35:57 GMT -8
Adela de la Torre promised the students & community to make progress at SDSU toward offering independent doctorates, and R1 status. This bill, over the next ten years after it is signed, will allow State to easily move to R1 status, but it will also allow SDSU to move into the Top 100 ranking for National Universities and allow State to become an AAU member… 🎉 SDSU has done a lot of research for those joint doctorates with the UCs. IOW, they were basically the bosses and we were their labor. We can now be our own bosses for a change. The next step is to hire esteem faculty who are renown in their field. That will require money, lots of it. Those planned buildings around Snap Dragon should be the facilities to lure them to come here as well. Plus, who wouldn't want to live in San Diego? |
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Post by SD Johnny on Apr 26, 2023 11:11:17 GMT -8
Monte is an Utah guy, I believe, so I doubt his source is a Big 12 PR firm. He’s a BYU guy. Tons of references to BYU games and all aspects of their football team. The only times he talks about Utah is related to realignment. |
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Post by SD Johnny on Apr 26, 2023 11:15:08 GMT -8
Adela de la Torre promised the students & community to make progress at SDSU toward offering independent doctorates, and R1 status. This bill, over the next ten years after it is signed, will allow State to easily move to R1 status, but it will also allow SDSU to move into the Top 100 ranking for National Universities and allow State to become an AAU member… 🎉 Don’t you need to have a law school and a medical school for AAU? |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Apr 26, 2023 11:25:25 GMT -8
This bill, over the next ten years after it is signed, will allow State to easily move to R1 status, but it will also allow SDSU to move into the Top 100 ranking for National Universities and allow State to become an AAU member… 🎉 Don’t you need to have a law school and a medical school for AAU? The focus is on engineering and medical. We shall see if the bill gets out of committee and what it does in the body. |
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Post by Den60 on Apr 26, 2023 11:48:45 GMT -8
This bill, over the next ten years after it is signed, will allow State to easily move to R1 status, but it will also allow SDSU to move into the Top 100 ranking for National Universities and allow State to become an AAU member… 🎉 Don’t you need to have a law school and a medical school for AAU? Medical school would help, though Cal doesn't have one. Research dollars drive the bus and the biggest fields for that is medical and engineering. I should note that I have always dreamed of SDSU taking over Alvarado Hospital which is privately owned and has had some financial and labor issues in the past. SDSU owns most of the land surrounding it and has plans to raze the part with two story buildings and go 5 stories with it. Don't see that happening unless we were elevated to a UC school - my personal favorite would be US Mission San Diego. Another interesting note is that UCSD was originally going to be called UC La Jolla but they changed the name because of discriminatory housing practices in La Jolla at the time. |
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Post by myownwords on Apr 26, 2023 12:09:06 GMT -8
Don’t you need to have a law school and a medical school for AAU? Medical school would help, though Cal doesn't have one. Research dollars drive the bus and the biggest fields for that is medical and engineering. I should note that I have always dreamed of SDSU taking over Alvarado Hospital which is privately owned and has had some financial and labor issues in the past. SDSU owns most of the land surrounding it and has plans to raze the part with two story buildings and go 5 stories with it. Don't see that happening unless we were elevated to a UC school - my personal favorite would be US Mission San Diego. Another interesting note is that UCSD was originally going to be called UC La Jolla but they changed the name because of discriminatory housing practices in La Jolla at the time. For the reasons you mentioned, regarding medical and engineer, are why the UC system will NEVER allow State schools to poach. |
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Post by sdcoug on Apr 26, 2023 12:13:40 GMT -8
Adela de la Torre promised the students & community to make progress at SDSU toward offering independent doctorates, and R1 status. This bill, over the next ten years after it is signed, will allow State to easily move to R1 status, but it will also allow SDSU to move into the Top 100 ranking for National Universities and allow State to become an AAU member… 🎉 AAU status would just be frosting on the cake. RU1 is definitely the priority. |
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Post by fowl on Apr 26, 2023 12:51:50 GMT -8
This bill, over the next ten years after it is signed, will allow State to easily move to R1 status, but it will also allow SDSU to move into the Top 100 ranking for National Universities and allow State to become an AAU member… 🎉 AAU status would just be frosting on the cake. RU1 is definitely the priority. Agreed. AAU status will be damn near impossible if this bill passes considering CSU's would not be allowed to offer phd's in anything a UC offers. The research amount requirements are based mostly on National Science Foundation funding over the prior ten years. There are a lot of other "requirements" that would be impossible for SDSU to gain in the next 50 years at least, including a 3/4 majority vote by current AAU members considering that 7 of the 63 are UC's and that they would favor other UC campuses (who do more research and don't have phd restrictions) before us. None of us will live to see the day SDSU is AAU. |
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Post by Boise Aztec on Apr 26, 2023 14:06:51 GMT -8
This bill, over the next ten years after it is signed, will allow State to easily move to R1 status, but it will also allow SDSU to move into the Top 100 ranking for National Universities and allow State to become an AAU member… 🎉 AAU status would just be frosting on the cake. RU1 is definitely the priority. Agreed |
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Post by 94sdsu on Apr 26, 2023 14:59:14 GMT -8
If I read correctly, the bill is for CSU schools to award doctorates that UC schools don't. That seems pretty narrow if a CSU school can't offer any doctoral degrees that any UC schools offer. I would hope that it would be at least regional, e.g. SDSU can't offer one that UCSD does, however they could offer one that UCSB does but that UCSD doesn't.
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Post by rebar619 on Apr 26, 2023 15:01:45 GMT -8
If I read correctly, the bill is for CSU schools to award doctorates that UC schools don't. That seems pretty narrow if a CSU school can't offer any doctoral degrees that any UC schools offer. I would hope that it would be at least regional, e.g. SDSU can't offer one that UCSD does, however they could offer one that UCSB does but that UCSD doesn't. You are not wrong. The idea is one step at a time. Anything too big will never happen. Down the line I think what you propose is very appropriate. |
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Post by aztech on Apr 26, 2023 15:53:18 GMT -8
If I read correctly, the bill is for CSU schools to award doctorates that UC schools don't. That seems pretty narrow if a CSU school can't offer any doctoral degrees that any UC schools offer. I would hope that it would be at least regional, e.g. SDSU can't offer one that UCSD does, however they could offer one that UCSB does but that UCSD doesn't. The UC schools offer all the professional schools so that means we're SOL in that area. |
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Post by RiffelBooks on Apr 26, 2023 16:13:45 GMT -8
Cal not having a med school is a technicality, since UC has centered its NorCal medical education at UCSF.
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Post by RiffelBooks on Apr 26, 2023 16:15:22 GMT -8
Adela de la Torre promised the students & community to make progress at SDSU toward offering independent doctorates, and R1 status. This bill, over the next ten years after it is signed, will allow State to easily move to R1 status, but it will also allow SDSU to move into the Top 100 ranking for National Universities and allow State to become an AAU member… 🎉 SDSU to the Big Ten confirmed!  |
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Post by SD Johnny on Apr 26, 2023 16:20:43 GMT -8
None of us will live to see the day SDSU is AAU. Not saying you are wrong but I heard the same about the Pac 12. |
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Post by Den60 on Apr 26, 2023 16:36:17 GMT -8
I don't know if this guy is full of it or what, but I think he's a Utah fan and not a Big 12 propogandist. If true, this would not be good for either of our schools ==> youtube.com/shorts/UNq1Vt72SIE?feature=shareEDIT: Actually, it may or may not be good news for our schools. It depends on the details. Assuming the number is right, is it net of production costs or does the per school take fall another $8 mil for those costs. And is it 20% streaming or 80% streaming or what? I think if most of it is linear and the figure is net of production costs and the contract isn't for much more than 5-6 years, then the conference would be fine with it. Other than that, who knows? And, of course, that assumes that the guy isn't full of crap in the first place. The Monty show is a joke. Those guys have no real sources and are Big12 honks through and through. I have tried listening and it is a total clown show. They have zero credibility. Just two weeks ago I took them to task for saying repeatedly that the PAC was worth only $100M per year. They responded later that they were referring to only a portion of the games that ESPN wanted, but that was a far cry from what they were clearly saying on the air. Bottom line, I wouldn't give you a bucket of piss for their "news". They were the one who started the PAC only getting $22M per school rumor that all the B12 propagandists jumped on. They never said where the number came from save it was close to what ESPN's share for each B12 school is. |
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