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Post by aardvark on Feb 14, 2022 10:33:41 GMT -8
I push back when confronted. It was me who made comments during games against the refs when they made terrible calls.  |
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 14, 2022 13:01:03 GMT -8
I push back when confronted. It was me who made comments during games against the refs when they made terrible calls. Nominee for the most "look at me" poster on the planet. |
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Post by North County Aztec on Feb 19, 2022 16:01:26 GMT -8
Nominee for the most "look at me" poster on the planet. I vote for you Ryan |
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 19, 2022 16:04:14 GMT -8
Nominee for the most "look at me" poster on the planet. I vote for you Ryan Touche. |
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Feb 19, 2022 23:37:48 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 19, 2022 23:37:48 GMT -8
You'd have an actual point if I railed on and on about myself constantly and talked about my heroic failures against "tyranny and oppression" on a message board while yelling at basketball officials in protest to be a confrontational antagonist...but I have common sense. Strongly in favor of protesting, strongly opposed to unabashed idiocy and honestly bizarre perspectives like gloating about being an Internet tough guy. |
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Feb 19, 2022 23:39:17 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 19, 2022 23:39:17 GMT -8
Nominee for the most "look at me" poster on the planet. I vote for you Ryan Remind me of someone who allegedly went to Canada to promote "freedom" and went on and on about it like they are stricken with white knight syndrome? Yeah, this screams a lack of self-awareness. But thanks for the vote, I really do appreciate the gesture. |
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 20, 2022 19:33:15 GMT -8
You'd have an actual point if I railed on and on about myself constantly and talked about my heroic failures against "tyranny and oppression" on a message board while yelling at basketball officials in protest to be a confrontational antagonist...but I have common sense. Strongly in favor of protesting, strongly opposed to unabashed idiocy and honestly bizarre perspectives like gloating about being an Internet tough guy. You DO like to let people know how dumb they are, and how right you are, as well as letting people constantly know that they're wrong, and they have zero common sense. You're way is the right way, etc.... That's absolutely how you come off, a lot of times. When someone disagrees with you, or has a different point of view than your's, you can be VERY condescending. To me, that's a very "Hey, look at me," approach. So, there's that. |
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Post by sdsuball on Feb 21, 2022 1:51:02 GMT -8
You'd have an actual point if I railed on and on about myself constantly and talked about my heroic failures against "tyranny and oppression" on a message board while yelling at basketball officials in protest to be a confrontational antagonist...but I have common sense. Strongly in favor of protesting, strongly opposed to unabashed idiocy and honestly bizarre perspectives like gloating about being an Internet tough guy. You DO like to let people know how dumb they are, and how right you are, as well as letting people constantly know that they're wrong, and they have zero common sense. You're way is the right way, etc.... That's absolutely how you come off, a lot of times. When someone disagrees with you, or has a different point of view than your's, you can be VERY condescending. To me, that's a very "Hey, look at me," approach. So, there's that.Agreed. Ryan, I sometimes agree with what you are arguing for or against, but also dislike how confrontational you are in your responses. It's like you don't even consider other people's perspectives at time, you just classify their opinion as 'right' or 'wrong' in your head based on your personal views. |
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Feb 21, 2022 8:41:49 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 21, 2022 8:41:49 GMT -8
You'd have an actual point if I railed on and on about myself constantly and talked about my heroic failures against "tyranny and oppression" on a message board while yelling at basketball officials in protest to be a confrontational antagonist...but I have common sense. Strongly in favor of protesting, strongly opposed to unabashed idiocy and honestly bizarre perspectives like gloating about being an Internet tough guy. You DO like to let people know how dumb they are, and how right you are, as well as letting people constantly know that they're wrong, and they have zero common sense. You're way is the right way, etc.... That's absolutely how you come off, a lot of times. When someone disagrees with you, or has a different point of view than your's, you can be VERY condescending. To me, that's a very "Hey, look at me," approach. So, there's that. Because there's an actual line between having a subjective AND informed (important) different opinion versus being flat out wrong, lying or misleading people on an important issue. There's another fine line between actually having a real point and posting randomly bizarre stuff like the OP did for attention. (Yelling at basketball officials? Really?) I don't care if you agree with me or not, nor is it my concern how you interpret posts. Engaging in the exchange of information is what this place is about. But if you have a silly take, you're not immune to criticism. This isn't Martin Luther King, Medgar Evers or some heroic stand against governmental dictatorship. |
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Feb 21, 2022 8:44:20 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 21, 2022 8:44:20 GMT -8
You DO like to let people know how dumb they are, and how right you are, as well as letting people constantly know that they're wrong, and they have zero common sense. You're way is the right way, etc.... That's absolutely how you come off, a lot of times. When someone disagrees with you, or has a different point of view than your's, you can be VERY condescending. To me, that's a very "Hey, look at me," approach. So, there's that.Agreed. Ryan, I sometimes agree with what you are arguing for or against, but also dislike how confrontational you are in your responses. It's like you don't even consider other people's perspectives at time, you just classify their opinion as 'right' or 'wrong' in your head based on your personal views. Sorry you feel that way. Confrontational? I don't really believe in confrontation. I do believe in correcting bad actors though and those who are willingly spreading dangerous misinformation or disinformation in public forums. Or those who are repeatedly engaging in bad faith arguments on things like the January 6th insurrection, societal racism, police brutality and so on. Here's an example - If you think local health departments not allowing you to attend basketball games based on your booster status is any way comparable to the Civil Rights movement, racism or "tyranny", you honestly deserve to be dragged through the mud. (Generally speaking)...It should be fairly obvious as to why. (This shouldn't be controversial?) It's kinda ironic I never posted in the political forum in my decade+ of being here until a couple years ago, when the country was spiraling downward. Life was much simpler before then... |
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Post by sdsuball on Feb 21, 2022 16:39:29 GMT -8
Sure, but what determines if an argument is in good or bad faith?
What makes you believe that people who are protesting vaccine mandates are doing so with ill will towards others?
Why do you believe that they are bad actors, instead of simply people with a different viewpoint then yours?
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 21, 2022 16:55:33 GMT -8
Sure, but what determines if an argument is in good or bad faith? What makes you believe that people who are protesting vaccine mandates are doing so with ill will towards others? Why do you believe that they are bad actors, instead of simply people with a different viewpoint then yours? Bingo. |
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Post by North County Aztec on Mar 3, 2022 8:42:39 GMT -8
Remind me of someone who allegedly went to Canada to promote "freedom" and went on and on about it like they are stricken with white knight syndrome? Yeah, this screams a lack of self-awareness. But thanks for the vote, I really do appreciate the gesture. Your very welcome, I'm certain my vote means tons to you, hope it was not the only vote. |
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 3, 2022 9:27:24 GMT -8
Sure, but what determines if an argument is in good or bad faith? What makes you believe that people who are protesting vaccine mandates are doing so with ill will towards others? Why do you believe that they are bad actors, instead of simply people with a different viewpoint then yours? Sorry I missed this. It's pretty easy to spot the difference. Unserious hyperbole and action rooted in ideological falsehood. I know people with different viewpoints than mine; they don't worship terrorists like Ashli Babbitt. Follow the money, follow the backing and you find the truth. Most of these "freedom" yellers don't have any idea what they support. They are begging for donations on CashApp and PayPal. It's a grift. Some of the same folks who were in DC last January. What a coincidence, right? |
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Post by sdsuball on Mar 4, 2022 2:50:30 GMT -8
Sure, but what determines if an argument is in good or bad faith? What makes you believe that people who are protesting vaccine mandates are doing so with ill will towards others? Why do you believe that they are bad actors, instead of simply people with a different viewpoint then yours? Sorry I missed this. It's pretty easy to spot the difference. Unserious hyperbole and action rooted in ideological falsehood. I know people with different viewpoints than mine; they don't worship terrorists like Ashli Babbitt. Follow the money, follow the backing and you find the truth. Most of these "freedom" yellers don't have any idea what they support. They are begging for donations on CashApp and PayPal. It's a grift. Some of the same folks who were in DC last January. What a coincidence, right? See but you are talking about far right extremist groups. You are categorizing everyone that agrees with their position on a certain issue (say vaccination mandates) as being a member of their tribe. But that's incredibly inaccurate! For example, I voted for Biden. I agree with most of his positions, but I strongly disagree with federal vaccine mandates. I am not a part of "far right tribe x". To assume that other forum posters who are anti-vaccine affiliate with "far right tribe x" is not only wrong, it's actually strengthening "far right tribe x". Because in that assumption, you are assuming that more people are a member of "far right tribe x" then actually are in reality. There are some people that don't ascribe to tribalism in America that are Republican or Democrat, and there are a lot of independent voters as well... |
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 4, 2022 10:30:59 GMT -8
Sorry I missed this. It's pretty easy to spot the difference. Unserious hyperbole and action rooted in ideological falsehood. I know people with different viewpoints than mine; they don't worship terrorists like Ashli Babbitt. Follow the money, follow the backing and you find the truth. Most of these "freedom" yellers don't have any idea what they support. They are begging for donations on CashApp and PayPal. It's a grift. Some of the same folks who were in DC last January. What a coincidence, right? See but you are talking about far right extremist groups. You are categorizing everyone that agrees with their position on a certain issue (say vaccination mandates) as being a member of their tribe. But that's incredibly inaccurate! For example, I voted for Biden. I agree with most of his positions, but I strongly disagree with federal vaccine mandates. I am not a part of "far right tribe x". To assume that other forum posters who are anti-vaccine affiliate with "far right tribe x" is not only wrong, it's actually strengthening "far right tribe x". Because in that assumption, you are assuming that more people are a member of "far right tribe x" then actually are in reality. There are some people that don't ascribe to tribalism in America that are Republican or Democrat, and there are a lot of independent voters as well... The people who are participating in this specific situation are, by and large, far-right folks, of those that are in the public eye. Don't misconstrue what I'm saying here. I realize not everyone who disagrees with mandates is a radical. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Mar 11, 2022 13:44:55 GMT -8
www.kvpr.org/2022-03-05/california-legislators-propose-new-slate-of-covid-19-vaccine-lawsLook at the CA Progressive Elect going all Orwellian/Canadian here. Obey or lose your job, get fined, get visited by the police. Among others, they target independent contractors. Some independent contractors never step foot into the employer's facility, some are located out of state, some work alone. Can we get fined if our handyman or landscaper isn't vaxxed? Medical privacy is flushed down the toilet for them. Its "Show me your papers"! Who doesn't recall Kamala Harris dissing a Covid vaccine because it might come from the Trump Admin? (and spare me the Snopes-esque tortured reasoning that says otherwise). One take away from that exchange was that even Kamala felt that the individual was the final arbiter of what was good or not good for themselves and not the State or individual within the state. What is ominous is that they are criminalizing doing nothing that overly harms anyone else. The CA Progressive Elect allow, enable and/or are complicit in illegal immigration, human trafficking, illegal drug smuggling/use, vagrancy, loitering, petty theft, etc. They pass laws that actually reduce public safety (meaning your safety) but are all-in on the vaccine mandates. They even want to force the local police to be their vaccine Gestapo. Its not because they actually care for those who choose not to get vaccinated and are willing to seek therapeutics should they get sick, its because they are looking out for their own little vaccinated selves. It is a self-centered calculus that is afraid of other people getting sick might slightly increase the odds of them getting breakthrough Covid. Of course, the want police to visit and fine those who don't comply to their whims but they just adore the unvaccinated coming over our Southern border  . So why do these nervous ninnies allow the unvaccinated to come over the border in waves but want to criminalize the unvaccinated citizens who are already here? Because future political power is more important to them than their own good health, if not life itself.
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