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Post by aztecwin on Dec 4, 2010 8:20:21 GMT -8
That may have been a topic in some circles, but the fact that Conservatives have outnumbered liberals for years remains. It is when independent voters break in large number for the Democrats that they win elections. As defined by you, of course. Yes!  |
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Post by waztec on Dec 4, 2010 8:21:30 GMT -8
That post is as much a rhetorical and hyperbolic shot to Mars as I have ever read! You have the potential to become a good satirist. You are just too funny. I love the way you poke fun at the debate by magnifying the positions taken to the absurd. I salute you. We are all enriched by the contributions of Joe. Just don't tell him. I can't help it. He was probably one of the writers of the Rocky and Bullwinkle cartoon show. (he probably isn't old enough though) ;D |
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Post by waztec on Dec 4, 2010 8:22:54 GMT -8
As defined by you, of course. Yes! At least we agree on the military. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Dec 4, 2010 8:37:21 GMT -8
the Democrat party's Liberal agenda I tend to lean a little more to the right than the left---and therefore I agree with you a little more often than I do with waztec---but I KNOW YOU'RE SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW that it's the Democratic party. Not the Democrat party. Well, the party designation IS Democrat. I've even heard people on MSNBC call it the Democrat party in recent years. I don't know what the party members want it referred to, and, franky, I don't care. Democrat party, Democratic party - tomato, tomahto, whatever. That's an awfully minor quibble. Still, upon further review it would seem that the times I've heard those on the left use the term must have been a slip. My bad. It's still a minor quibble, but my bad all the same. And it's odd that out of all the valid points I made that's the only thing I posted that got commented on. Interesting. |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Dec 4, 2010 8:47:00 GMT -8
We are all enriched by the contributions of Joe. Just don't tell him. I can't help it. He was probably one of the writers of the Rocky and Bullwinkle cartoon show. (he probably isn't old enough though) ;D I loved Rocky and Bullwinkle and the political references were almost as good as Doonesbury a generation later. As previously stated, I have no real political opinions. Sometimes, I start to and then realize that it is just a useless exercise as no changes will ever be made that will change the glaring errors of out system until it starts to collapse. As History has taught us most emphatically, the only real change to a decaying system is revolution.. We are not quite ready for it yet. You know, I waste most of my day gardening and corresponding with friends from as far back as half a century ago. I am going to start on a satirical filled book that will advance the cause of revolution in this country. Yesterday in one of my impromptu posts I coined a name. I think it was Resolution Day. that will be the title of my new book. I will start writing it in a few seconds, as soon as I check my email. I will have to stop to watch about four college football games today. Boy do I want Auburn to lose. They deserve to because they are so damn fuggin corrupt. It is Death Penalty time for that school. I bet you that their entire administration is Republican (I've got mine, so fug you! - Conservatives.) Well, with four football games, I will be lucky to write an introduction, but I will keep you informed as the days and weeks go by. Resolution Day here we come. |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Dec 4, 2010 8:48:48 GMT -8
And it's odd that out of all the valid points I made that's the only thing I posted that got commented on. Interesting. It is just their way of annoying you. |
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Post by waztec on Dec 4, 2010 8:58:50 GMT -8
I can't help it. He was probably one of the writers of the Rocky and Bullwinkle cartoon show. (he probably isn't old enough though) ;D I loved Rocky and Bullwinkle and the political references were almost as good as Doonesbury a generation later. As previously stated, I have no real political opinions. Sometimes, I start to and then realize that it is just a useless exercise as no changes will ever be made that will change the glaring errors of out system until it starts to collapse. As History has taught us most emphatically, the only real change to a decaying system is revolution.. We are not quite ready for it yet. You know, I waste most of my day gardening and corresponding with friends from as far back as half a century ago. I am going to start on a satirical filled book that will advance the cause of revolution in this country. Yesterday in one of my impromptu posts I coined a name. I think it was Resolution Day. that will be the title of my new book. I will start writing it in a few seconds, as soon as I check my email. I will have to stop to watch about four college football games today. Boy do I want Auburn to lose. They deserve to because they are so damn fuggin corrupt. It is Death Penalty time for that school. I bet you that their entire administration is Republican (I've got mine, so fug you! - Conservatives.) Well, with four football games, I will be lucky to write an introduction, but I will keep you informed as the days and weeks go by. Resolution Day here we come. I am a bit more optimistic. I think we will adjust at the precipice. Its gonna be a bumpy ride that is for sure. And at the end the sun will become a red giant and we will all be gone. I want Auburn to lose as well. But I really want Oreg-none to lose. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Dec 5, 2010 11:13:26 GMT -8
First of all, as to my frowning, don't worry too much. Apparently I frown frequently; my wife is always telling me to stop frowning before it's necessary to take a Botox treatment. Banishment, so far, is a very infrequent event on AztecMesa. I think only one member has been booted, and only after warnings. Second, the whole issue of Right versus Left boils down to this question: What is the proper role of government in a free republic? Should the government act like a referee, not taking sides in disputes between individuals and groups (private companies or fraternal organizations), or should the government endeavor to "improve" society by picking winners and losers? Someone is, correctly, bound to say that it's difficult to have a government that does not do a little of both. The ultimate issue, then, is to decide at what point the government should butt out and let the private sector sort things out. Libertarians (that includes me) favor a government that rules with a light hand, maintaining national defense, a legal system, and a minimum of regulation (e.g., NOT telling restaurants that they may not give away toys with kids meals!). Progressives/liberals,/collectivists (or whatever you want to call them) favor a system in which the government attempts to impose "social justice," whatever that means. When a majority of citizens believes that its well-being can only be guaranteed by the government, any idea of an independent-minded, self-reliant citizenry goes out the window. My fear, and the fear of most conservatives and libertarians, is that we may already have passed the point of no return with respect to becoming a nation of mendicants holding out the tin cup to the political party most willing to fill it. The concomitant feature of such a system, of course, is that there will be fewer and fewer productive citizens willing or able to provide the wherewithal with which to fill the cups of those who cannot or will not rely on the their own efforts. (For more on that, see this thread. . . www.aztecmesa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=econpol&action=display&thread=6432 AzWm |
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