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Post by aztecbreakdown on Sept 22, 2021 12:38:33 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2021 13:02:53 GMT -8
I'm shocked that they project the same starting lineup I did in another thread. Mensah, Diabate, KJ, Bradley, Pulliam. The 2nd guy has Butler, Baker, Bradley, KJ, Mensah as what he wants but switches out Butler for Pulliam as what he thinks Dutcher will do.
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Post by standiego on Sept 22, 2021 13:41:10 GMT -8
a thought Dutcher likes experienced guys - Adam - great team player in both HS and here at SDSU . Adam also got some very valuable PT in a T overseas this past summer ?
Has anyone heard or seen how Chad has been doing ? Did see KD in Swish and he has really improved in numerous areas of his game . Could be our best outside shooter - key of course for him is his defense
From what had been posted T D - the transfer from Pacific - could be the back up for Nathan at the 5 and Joshua - likely to spend time at the 4 or maybe the 5 ?
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Post by texasaztec on Sept 25, 2021 21:34:06 GMT -8
Seiko has stellar defense. Dutch likes to put defense on the floor. There is a case for Seiko to get starter minutes.
Go Aztecs!
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Post by aztecbreakdown on Sept 29, 2021 9:47:25 GMT -8
Seiko has stellar defense. Dutch likes to put defense on the floor. There is a case for Seiko to get starter minutes. Go Aztecs! Seiko definitely has a great chance to start between his defense, shooting, and experience. A lot of different starting lineups make sense. |
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Post by sdcoug on Sept 29, 2021 12:59:40 GMT -8
My $0.02 on the odds of seeing various starting line-ups:
Fixed: Trey, Matt & Nate (Trey might be 90%, the other 2 99%+)
Odds on final 2 spots, given Baker-Mazara, Keshad, Adam, Lamont, Josh & AG as leading candidates (barring a major surprise):
1a. Baker-M & Keshad 30%
1b. Keshad & Seiko 30%
3. Keshad & Lamont 10%
4. Baker-M & Seiko 9%
5. Baker-M & Lamont 7%
6. Keshad & Josh 4%
7. Adam & Josh 3%
8. Lamont & Josh 2%
9. Keshad & AG 1%
9. Baker-M & Josh 1%
10. Adam & AG <1%
11. Lamont & AG <1%
12. Baker-M & AG <1%
AG would be much higher on my list except I haven't heard anything that leads me to believe he won't have some setbacks due to vertigo, and I don't think the coaches will get to a point where they trust him to be a regular part of the starting line-up. On his good days he'll definitely be in the rotation, but you can't have a guy who starts on Weds, sits Sat due to vertigo, then starts Weds because he's healthy. No continuity.
I think 1 of the 2 spots is Keshad's to lose, hence why I give him a 75% chance of starting. The next 2 IMO are Baker-Mazara (47%+) & Adam (42%+), with Lamont (19%) & Josh (10%) much less likely given the mix of Trey, Matt & Nate being "locks".
I don't see Diamate starting, unless someone is hurt. But he'll be a rotation guy behind Nate, especially if Josh pans out at the 4. Dinwiddie is another I don't see starting yet, but definitely a rotation player. That's 11, 10 when AG is out, and that's probably too many. It's definitely going to be a heated battle, both for the 4th/5th starting spots, plus the 8th/9th rotation guy, which is typically about as deep as Dutch tends to go on a regular basis.
Can't wait to get it all started!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2021 13:58:02 GMT -8
I think you're under estimating Diabate
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Post by survalli on Sept 29, 2021 16:08:47 GMT -8
Feel pretty good about this line up. As much as I would think that we would like to play small don't think our depth allows for it. ideally Baker wins a starting role outright so that we don't have to experiment with the second line up to often.
Pulliam = PG / Butler /Seiko
Matt B = SG / Dinwiddie / Seiko
Baker = SF / Agrop / Evans
Johnson = PF / Tomaic
Mensah = C / Diabate
Also possible
Butler = PG / Seiko
Pulliam = SG / Dinwiddie
Matt B = SF / Baker / Agrop /Evans
Johnson = PF / Tomiac
Mensah = C /Diabate
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Post by sdcoug on Sept 29, 2021 16:10:01 GMT -8
I think you're under estimating Diabate Not based on what I've heard. |
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Post by survalli on Sept 29, 2021 16:17:14 GMT -8
the guy people are underestimating is Baker. if he doesnt start i will be shocked.
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Post by tecsonthebeach on Sept 29, 2021 18:41:50 GMT -8
I think you're under estimating Diabate Not based on what I've heard. Oh, Jesus Christ, really? So you have inside connections and you are going to publicly bash this player? Also, his name is not “Diamate.” |
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Post by sdcoug on Sept 29, 2021 18:51:48 GMT -8
Not based on what I've heard. Oh, Jesus Christ, really? So you have inside connections and you are going to publicly bash this player? Also, his name is not “Diamate.” Where did I "bash" him or anyone? My understanding is he's perceived as a terrific backup at the 5 behind Nate, which is one reason they're developing Josh as a 4 in addition to his experience as a 5. He's not seen as a starter at the 4. |
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Post by tecsonthebeach on Sept 29, 2021 19:01:03 GMT -8
I think you're under estimating Diabate Not based on what I've heard. |
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Post by docmm on Sept 29, 2021 20:33:37 GMT -8
It always seems great to have a loaded team but team chemistry can really get run over while the staff tries to find out the right combination of players for their rotation. Having so many potential starters can cause a lot of hurt feelings and egos if someone doesn't accept their assigned roles. I trust Dutcher but the process can be painful.
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Post by sdcoug on Sept 29, 2021 21:30:57 GMT -8
Not based on what I've heard. And? This is a thread about STARTING LINEUPS. Zeigler didn't list Diabate as a potential starter based on his insights and that's exactly what I've heard. He's going to be a terrific backup at the 5. Nate will start at the 5. That's not bashing him. |
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Post by tecsonthebeach on Sept 30, 2021 14:29:26 GMT -8
And? This is a thread about STARTING LINEUPS. Zeigler didn't list Diabate as a potential starter based on his insights and that's exactly what I've heard. He's going to be a terrific backup at the 5. Nate will start at the 5. That's not bashing him. Fair enough. It appears I misread you and misunderstood your intent. It’s just college hoops talk, after all. |
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Post by standiego on Oct 1, 2021 16:55:50 GMT -8
are we guessing what the starting line up will be for the First OOC game , Controlled Scrimmage If they have one , or the tough game AT BYU or ....
Practice just began - so as in the past Dutcher usually goes with experienced players and to no surprise - guys that know the defense .
Most of us presume there are 3 starters Trey ( PG ) , Nathan( 5) and Matt B - Where Matt B starts ( at the 2 or 3 is dependent on who has developed the most at either the 2 or 3 -
At the 2 ?: Is it Adam - who got additional International Experience this summer in a T - where he ran the offense and defense - plus was willing to add a lot more offense then he has previously here at SDSU , KD is a great Scorer but not sure about the defense . Also remember him being a top FT % .
At the 3 - there is Chad - who had a good freshman season before he came here - but has to learn the Aztec defense ( also not sure of the teams he had to play against at his previous school). - only has 1 year of experience at the college level . Keshad - although is he more likely to be at the 4 ?
Could Keshad be at the 4 or Joshua or Chad ?
Agree TD is most likely to be Nathan back up - has played against the Zags , BYU , St Mary's ... Has played the 5 . Has experience but think he sat out last year so could be rusty ?
IMO experienced guard play is important - especially when we play BYU and other teams with high quality guards . Need Defense and avoiding TO's - If it is scoring see KD as good if not better then T-GO -
practice has begun - Dutcher said he will know a whole lot more about the guys when they start to scrimmage
Practice just started this week - so as Dutcher said you learn a lot more when we scrimmage or start playing OOC games . So
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