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Post by sdsustoner on Sept 20, 2021 7:06:07 GMT -8
That is NOT true at all. You haven't been paying attention. With the exception of the entire NMST game minus 2 drives, this offense is far more creative when the Aztecs are losing, tied or leading in the first half than when it takes a comfortable lead in the 2nd half. If Hoke had zero trust in the QBs, you'd see Martyball all the time. You never see SDSU open OT with 3 straight passes and you definitely don't see the Philly Special in the 3rd OT. This is on Hoke's stupid Martyball philosophy. What are you, an all or nothing type of person? I never said our QB's are incapable of throwing a single pass, just not talented enough to sling the ball around all game. But hey, I'll defer to your superior football IQ and when Hoke's contract is up I hope to see you throw your coaching hat into the ring. You used snark to deflect the fact you were wrong when you said, "we simply do not seem to recruit talented enough QB's to where we can open up the playbook" That was adorable. ❤ ❤
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Post by sdmotohead on Sept 20, 2021 7:16:50 GMT -8
What are you, an all or nothing type of person? I never said our QB's are incapable of throwing a single pass, just not talented enough to sling the ball around all game. But hey, I'll defer to your superior football IQ and when Hoke's contract is up I hope to see you throw your coaching hat into the ring. You used snark to deflect the fact you were wrong when you said, "we simply do not seem to recruit talented enough QB's to where we can open up the playbook" That was adorable. ❤ ❤ You're absolutely right! Sorry for calling you out. I meant to say (according to you) that we recruit the most TALENTED QB's and as a result the coaching staff, in their utter incompetence, fail to utilize their talents appropriately.
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Post by sdcoug on Sept 20, 2021 14:00:31 GMT -8
I posted individual & team grades per PFF in another thread, but agree with most of your grades, although I'd give Johnson more of a B than A. He definitely played well & managed the game properly, but he threw a couple he shouldn't have & missed a couple receivers. Maybe a B+. Agree on the coaching grades, although I'd say "A" vs. "A+". Great game plan; great halftime adjustments. And I had no problem with the play-calling, especially the last series where the #1 objective was to force them to burn all 3 TO's.
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Post by sdsustoner on Sept 20, 2021 16:46:29 GMT -8
You used snark to deflect the fact you were wrong when you said, "we simply do not seem to recruit talented enough QB's to where we can open up the playbook" That was adorable. ❤ ❤ You're absolutely right! Sorry for calling you out. I meant to say (according to you) that we recruit the most TALENTED QB's and as a result the coaching staff, in their utter incompetence, fail to utilize their talents appropriately. Look at you jumping to extremes, Mr Irony Maker
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Post by ramrodd23 on Sept 20, 2021 17:16:47 GMT -8
At times the offense looked like a windup toy car harmlessly bumping up against a wall. There is zero balance to this offense. Conventional wisdom dictates an occasional throw downfield would open up more running lanes, right now the opponent safeties and linebackers are practically breathing on their own d linemen. With the exception of 2 running plays, Utah’s defense pretty much controlled the game. If this is the best Hecklinski can come up with, he should be coaching Pop Warner somewhere. Coaching…..C- at best. The Aztecs gave up a 2 TD lead in the last 5 minutes of the game and were lucky to win. It's not Heck. It's Hoke. You can see Heck's influence when we don't have a 2nd half lead. Like overtime. Have you been near a coaching staff when they take a comfortable lead? The HC tells the OC to dial it down. It both Heck and Hoke. Heck track record or lack there of doesn’t help. Also, you can be more creative than running up the middle every single time. I highly doubt Hoke told Heck to do that every single time.
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Post by sdsustoner on Sept 21, 2021 5:35:27 GMT -8
It's not Heck. It's Hoke. You can see Heck's influence when we don't have a 2nd half lead. Like overtime. Have you been near a coaching staff when they take a comfortable lead? The HC tells the OC to dial it down. It both Heck and Hoke. Heck track record or lack there of doesn’t help. Also, you can be more creative than running up the middle every single time. I highly doubt Hoke told Heck to do that every single time. Hoke doesn't call the exact plays. But, a HC will tell the OC something along the lines of, "shut it down" or whatever terminology they use, and they run the package of plays set for that scenario. If there's only plays up the gut for that package, then the OC is actually limited on what they can call. I'm guessing Hoke has his finger prints on this more than the guy who called 3 straight passes to open OT and a Philly Special in the 3rd.
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Post by aztecdan8 on Sept 21, 2021 5:40:57 GMT -8
Run up the gut is not a creative strategy and we will beat killed by teams that stop the run. Why did we wait until OT to try some creative pas plays? Hecklinski is waaayyyy to conservative. I know this is a common complaint with our team. It would be appear that the reality of the situation is that we simply do not seem to recruit talented enough QB's to where we can open up the playbook. If the plays seem vanilla, it's because that's all our offense is capable of. You can't have someone go out there and sling the football if they are not capable of it. Still the coaches responsibility… and fault.
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Post by tonatiuh on Sept 21, 2021 14:54:54 GMT -8
I like it on Sunday because the game is still fresh in my mind. Thank you for doing this. Have to disagree on the coaching score. Run up the gut is not a creative strategy and we will beat killed by teams that stop the run. Why did we wait until OT to try some creative pas plays? Hecklinski is waaayyyy to conservative. And coaching has not stopped stupid penalties, that has to be added into the coaching score. Let me ask you a serious question. When Boise St. beat Oklahoma in 2007 Bowl game. How many times did they run the Statue Of Liberty play during the game? Shouldn't be too difficult. They ran it just one time only. That kind of play may fool opponents very well, but you don't wear it out, or they can realize it is coming again and stop it. Same with the special play the Aztecs ran in OT. Yes, it worked, but just barely and you don't want your opponent to get wise to it because it can be defeated. You act like you expected the Aztec offense to fill the air with footballs. Haven't you learned that we are basically a running team first, and fill in with passing on occasion? That's why they did that play in OT, because they figured that Utah would not be expecting them to do that then. Get used to the fact that we will be conservative most of the time.
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